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Nevilledog

(54,609 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:25 PM Aug 2022

KC youth group denied entrance to publicly owned pool in Lee's Summit, MO



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Kansas City youth group was denied access into Summit Waves Water Park in Lee’s Summit, Missouri due to their skin color.

Summit Waves owner said she “didn’t feel comfortable” and “they didn’t represent Summit Waves”.


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KC youth group denied entrance to publicly owned pool in Lee's Summit, MO (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2022 OP
Time to shut down this bigoted place. There's no place for such a business in Lee Summit. NT SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #1
It's owned by the city. nt Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #10
So the article, claiming that the lady owns the property Summit Waves, doesn't own it?? SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #12
The article didn't say that, the person posting it on Twitter did. Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #13
Seems to me you're missing a lot. Maybe read more and start over? Hortensis Aug 2022 #26
Maybe don't go running off making assumptions when you have no idea of my history... SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #27
"find out more, do some further research?" Exactly. Hortensis Aug 2022 #29
Everybody knows about Mississippi, but Missouri, goddamn Walleye Aug 2022 #2
And somewhere John Roberts feels all tingly, and doesn't quite know why gratuitous Aug 2022 #3
Oh, he knows why. Nevilledog Aug 2022 #7
A stroll down memory lane to the 1950s. Chainfire Aug 2022 #4
This INFURIATES me!! leftieNanner Aug 2022 #5
Russia: "Pardon us, while we turn back the clock to The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2022 #6
Wow... DET Aug 2022 #8
According to a post here yesterday it was cancelled due to overcapacity MichMan Aug 2022 #9
There were zero people at the park and City admits they didn't hire enough security, uponit7771 Aug 2022 #15
Did the family ever say why it was promoted on social media after they expressly agreed not to? MichMan Aug 2022 #16
250 for a teen's birthday party sounds excessive, no matter anyone's race. 500 is insane. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #23
WTAF??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Aug 2022 #11
Yeah, this isn't going to go well here ... there were ZERO people there when they showed up and uponit7771 Aug 2022 #14
They should have just let everyone in MichMan Aug 2022 #17
:) Yes (plus responsibility for damage to the property). And suspend Hortensis Aug 2022 #25
Apparently a lifeguard there made a "disturbing social media post". MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #18
I saw it -- it was a pic of several of the lifeguards obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #20
Ffs. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #21
Publicly owned, so the plaintiffs will win any lawsuit they bring obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #19
All 500 people should sue for $10 million apiece if they will win any lawsuit MichMan Aug 2022 #22
Lawsuit time EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #24
Oh how ridiculous pinkstarburst Aug 2022 #28

SWBTATTReg

(25,776 posts)
1. Time to shut down this bigoted place. There's no place for such a business in Lee Summit. NT
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:26 PM
Aug 2022

SWBTATTReg

(25,776 posts)
12. So the article, claiming that the lady owns the property Summit Waves, doesn't own it??
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:55 PM
Aug 2022

???

Perhaps I'm missing something?

Summit Waves owner said she “didn’t feel comfortable” and “they didn’t represent Summit Waves”.

Phoenix61

(18,589 posts)
13. The article didn't say that, the person posting it on Twitter did.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:24 PM
Aug 2022

He also said something about the kids saving up their money and that’s not right either. The father paid for the rental for his son’s 17th birthday. The original article said the park had tried to contact them throughout the day but were unable to reach them. The reported issue stemmed from a policy that people are not allowed to post the party on social media and it had been posted.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Seems to me you're missing a lot. Maybe read more and start over?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:17 AM
Aug 2022

While failing to find factual support for racist denial, you might come across the real fact that Lee's Summit is 87+% white, 8+% black.

Maybe that could be used in speculation that, if we could only see into her mind, the manager was glad for racist reasons that city and county codes required the group be denied for size. Without evidence that that was true, that'd be slander, but hey, this IS social media. (She is white, right? Fair game for race-based character assassination?)

Fwiw, assuming racist grievance at every turn has nothing to do with commitment to equality. It's something very different. And leaping to race-based animosities is racist in itself. Of course.

SWBTATTReg

(25,776 posts)
27. Maybe don't go running off making assumptions when you have no idea of my history...
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 01:25 PM
Aug 2022

I lived right next to Lee Summit, so I know far more about the racial makeup of Lee Summit, probably more than a lot of people on DU.
And my comment had nothing to do w/ the racial issue, I was just wondering about the ownership of the property, getting more clarification on it, nothing else and nothing more as you seemed to infer and/or attach to my remark. Perhaps maybe before you go making comments on the sideline, find out more, do some further research?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. "find out more, do some further research?" Exactly.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:03 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe also look at many of the unfortunately mislead and inflamed reactions triggered by the OP and figure out how how it might have been presented to avoid unsupported outrage.

And as part of the process question whether this incident warrants a political post at all. Sounds to me like it might be better suited to the Municipal Park Management Monthly.

When we aren't part of the solution, we're part of the problem. I'm sure you agree with that.

leftieNanner

(16,061 posts)
5. This INFURIATES me!!
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:29 PM
Aug 2022

A City owned water park turning away residents. Kids!!

She didn't feel "comfortable"?

Damn, she (and those lifeguards) need to lose her job.

I'm sorry, but these are the people who chose Josh Hawley over Claire.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
6. Russia: "Pardon us, while we turn back the clock to
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:29 PM
Aug 2022

Soviet Union.”

United States: “Pardon us, while we turn back the clock
to Jim Crow.”

MichMan

(16,071 posts)
9. According to a post here yesterday it was cancelled due to overcapacity
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:50 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:51 PM - Edit history (1)

They reserved it for 250 people, but 500 were going to show up based on sharing it on social media. Park couldn't accommodate that many


https://democraticunderground.com/10615811

MichMan

(16,071 posts)
16. Did the family ever say why it was promoted on social media after they expressly agreed not to?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:51 AM
Aug 2022

and why 500 people showed up when they had reserved for only 250?

Was there a guest list provided in order that the park could identify who was part of the private party and who wasn't?



 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
23. 250 for a teen's birthday party sounds excessive, no matter anyone's race. 500 is insane.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:49 AM
Aug 2022

What could possibly go wrong?

uponit7771

(93,293 posts)
14. Yeah, this isn't going to go well here ... there were ZERO people there when they showed up and
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:17 AM
Aug 2022

... the water park didn't get enough security.

MichMan

(16,071 posts)
17. They should have just let everyone in
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:25 AM
Aug 2022

Require the party that reserved it to sign a liability waiver accepting full responsibility for any injuries or drownings that may occur. Make everyone entering the park read and sign the waiver as well.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) Yes (plus responsibility for damage to the property). And suspend
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:10 AM
Aug 2022

the employees who didn't follow the rules while a full investigation is done. Then fire them for cause. That way they'll have to provide their own legal defenses, a tiny but real way of cutting municipality's (read: resident taxpayers') costs from this.

Such a shame this manager did her job as required by various codes.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
18. Apparently a lifeguard there made a "disturbing social media post".
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:37 AM
Aug 2022
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-waterpark-issues-apology-and-video-from-racial-incident/

“Unfortunately, statements were made by a Parks and Recreation manager at Summit Waves that were inappropriate and insensitive,” Baird said in a statement.

Then on Sunday, the parks department said it learned a Summit Waves lifeguard made a “disturbing” social media post.

“The comments were appalling and not condoned by Parks and Recreation, and are inconsistent with the culture I know the City of Lee’s Summit strives to reflect,” Baird said.


No idea what the post said, but I have a vivid imagination. Wtf is wrong with people?

(P.S. - sorry for source, too lazy to google other local news there)

obamanut2012

(28,915 posts)
20. I saw it -- it was a pic of several of the lifeguards
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:45 AM
Aug 2022

Who are also city staff. I need to find it, but they were life lol we heard we are being canceled by whiny people and we don't give AF. I know for a fact canceled and don't give AF were in it, with two or three women lifeguards smirking. They should be immediately fired.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
21. Ffs.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:47 AM
Aug 2022

I had to go look.

“We don’t give a single fuck.”

What a bunch of assholes. Fired and never allowed to be in public safety position ever again.

obamanut2012

(28,915 posts)
19. Publicly owned, so the plaintiffs will win any lawsuit they bring
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:41 AM
Aug 2022

Jesus. And then that snotty AF social media post by several of the lifeguards? Who are public employees??????

EnergizedLib

(2,834 posts)
24. Lawsuit time
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:56 AM
Aug 2022

This should be a slam dunk, but how are we getting worse as a society as time goes on?

pinkstarburst

(1,810 posts)
28. Oh how ridiculous
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:01 PM
Aug 2022

They broke the rules of the rental agreement. They said they would have 250 people (which is crazy for a birthday party, by the way) and expressly agreed not to post it on social media, which they did, causing the number of people who actually showed up to be 500 people. The park tried to contact them repeatedly to tell them their event was canceled because they broke the contract terms and they could not safely accommodate them with that many guests.

I am not prepared to blame the park for not having sufficient security at this point simply because of the staffing issues every sector of the workforce is experiencing at this moment in time. There have been 2-3 news stories every day this week here about how bus routes are being canceled for the school year, how schools are short teachers to start school, how they need subs, how there will be a rotating schedule for bus routes in some districts (you can ride the bus on even weeks, and you have to drive your kids on odd weeks because no bus service to your neighborhood.) It's crazy.

So when I hear that a birthday party was going to have 250 people and that swelled to 500... the first thing I think isn't racism... it's what sort of parents have 500 people at their kid's birthday party. I got to have maybe 20 friends at the biggest birthday party I ever had. Makes me think the problem was NOT with the park...

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