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highplainsdem

(58,616 posts)
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 03:51 PM Aug 2023

Unregulated AI Will Worsen Inequality, Warns Nobel-Winning Economist Joseph Stiglitz

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unregulated-ai-will-worsen-inequality-warns-nobel-winning-economist-joseph-stiglitz/

For the first time since the 1960s, Hollywood writers and actors are on strike concurrently. One of the joint movement’s inspirations is generative artificial intelligence—the term for programs that produce humanlike text, images, audio and video more quickly and cheaply than artists. The strikers fear studios’ use of generative AI tools will replace or devalue human labor. This is a reasonable worry: one report suggests that thousands of jobs have already been lost to AI, while another estimates that hundreds of millions could eventually be automated. Left unchecked, this labor disruption could further concentrate wealth in the hands of companies and leave workers with less power than ever.

“Unfettered capitalism, unfettered innovation, does not lead to the general well-being of our society,” says Joseph E. Stiglitz, a winner of the 2001 Nobel prize in economics, a professor at Columbia University and chief economist at the Roosevelt Institute, a think tank based in New York City. “That’s one of the results that I’ve shown very strongly. So one can’t just leave it to the market.” Striking workers such as those in the writers’ and actors’ unions that are taking action now could serve as one restriction on job automation. Government regulation could also limit AI’s disruptive ability. Stiglitz, who has studied the science of inequality—and how we can reduce it—spoke with Scientific American about how artificial intelligence will impact the U.S. economy and what should be done to prevent it from increasing economic inequality.

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We may have to use government regulation because of the weakness of the bargaining power of workers—especially in the U.S. We passed the “hours and wages bill” [the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938] in the Great Depression, which capped the workweek at 40 hours. That was a long time ago, and now we’re in a new world. It may be the appropriate thing is to set it at 30 or 35, with a lot of flexibility, so if companies want to have the workers work more than that, then they pay them overtime. What we have to recognize is that we created a system where workers don’t have much bargaining power. So in that kind of world, AI may be an ally of the employer and weaken workers’ bargaining power even more, and that could increase inequality even more. There is a role for government to try to steer innovation in ways that are more productivity-increasing and job-creating, not job-destroying.

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I guess overall, I feel pessimistic—with respect to the issue of inequality. With the right policies, we could have higher productivity and less inequality, and everybody would be better off. But you might say the political economy, the way our politics have been working, has not been going in that direction. So at one end, I’m hopeful that if we did the right thing, AI would be great. But the question is: Will we be doing the right thing in our policy space? And I think that’s much more problematic.
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Unregulated AI Will Worsen Inequality, Warns Nobel-Winning Economist Joseph Stiglitz (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2023 OP
Love Stieglitz! Wanted him for Treasury Sec., or Fed. Reserve! Grins Aug 2023 #1
Always admired him. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #3
Better get taxes in place for ultrarich now. Wealth & income inequality already very bad Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #2
Those pushing AI who'll be greatly enriched by it make occasional noises about highplainsdem Aug 2023 #4
We're only making plans for Nigel Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #5
It will also boost salaries for tech workers Amishman Aug 2023 #6

Grins

(8,951 posts)
1. Love Stieglitz! Wanted him for Treasury Sec., or Fed. Reserve!
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 04:01 PM
Aug 2023

This quote:

“…we created a system where workers don’t have much bargaining power.”

…would have been more accurate if “Republicans” had been used instead of “we.”

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,468 posts)
2. Better get taxes in place for ultrarich now. Wealth & income inequality already very bad
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 05:01 PM
Aug 2023

AI has the potential to give humanity tremendous prosperity, but with the current setup, there will be billions out of work with no job prospects and the ultra-rich will be much richer again.

AI is very sustainable, but massive unemployment and even worse wealth and income inequality situation is completely unsustainable. Without fixing it will lead to terrible revolutions.

highplainsdem

(58,616 posts)
4. Those pushing AI who'll be greatly enriched by it make occasional noises about
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 11:21 AM
Aug 2023

a UBI being necessary, but have no idea how to get there. And their ideas about how those left unemployed as a result of AI are supposed to live are pathetic.

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman suggested in one profile that a family of four might be able to get by on only a few thousand a year, because power will supposedly be free because we'll have fusion, and food will supposedly be almost free because we'll have free power, and smart phones will provide free education. He admitted that wouldn't include housing. He was at a Silicon Valley mansion when the interview was done.

More recently he suggested that after everyone on earth has their eyes scanned by his own Worldcoin company and their Worldcoin IDs registered (so he'll have everyone's ID and data), they can all be viewed as co-owners of the world's AI and will each have one eight-billionth of the rights to that AI, and if they don't want to use that fraction for entertainment, or to design a dream home they'll somehow be able to afford, they can sell or rent that fraction of AI capability to businesses, and that will make them financially secure.

Such geniuses, these tech bros planning our future for us...

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,468 posts)
5. We're only making plans for Nigel
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 11:29 AM
Aug 2023

We're only making plans for Nigel
We only want what's best for him
We're only making plans for Nigel
Nigel just needs that helping hand


Amishman

(5,896 posts)
6. It will also boost salaries for tech workers
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:28 PM
Aug 2023

AI and automation still needs to be configured, customized, and maintained.

It's not easy work, to do it will someone needs the intelligence and mindset to understand the system. To see how it all fits together and interacts. It's something that in my experience requires well above average intelligence.

There is going to be increasing demand for those who have the ability to do those jobs - especially if they already have the experience. That will lead to higher wages - further enriching a small pool of workers who are already doing much better than most.

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