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Pototan

(2,886 posts)
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:05 AM Oct 2023

The Worst Thing About Trump

Sometimes I stumble upon a statement or phrase, and I think to myself, "I wish I said that." The bold quote below is from a person named Rich Joseph in a comment section of a you tube video.


The worst thing about Trump isn’t what we learned about him, it’s what we’ve learned about our friends, family, and neighbors that support him.

I wish I said that, because that's exactly how I feel.

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The Worst Thing About Trump (Original Post) Pototan Oct 2023 OP
It is like the old body snatchers horror movies. gordianot Oct 2023 #1
I watched the 1950's version, but remember Pototan Oct 2023 #2
Perhaps better to know than to suffer without knowing why. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #3
YUP jerseyjim Oct 2023 #4
Worst thing bdamomma Oct 2023 #5
Ah, yes, the answer. twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #6
Evil Lives sarcasmo Oct 2023 #17
He's very bdamomma Oct 2023 #53
Yes, and sooooooooooooo much coverage of him as well....I turn the channel a kennedy Oct 2023 #27
Happy to add a rec to your post. stage left Oct 2023 #28
Yep maxrandb Oct 2023 #7
Yeah... How'd that happen? Hugin Oct 2023 #8
The quiet ones are more dangerous than the ones we all see at his rallies. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #63
Since rump descended that escalator, my entire paradigm for personal interaction has shifted EYESORE 9001 Oct 2023 #9
Plus Danascot Oct 2023 #13
Helluva society, I tells ya! EYESORE 9001 Oct 2023 #18
Same here 617Blue Oct 2023 #19
I love this story! mountain grammy Oct 2023 #55
Where do the nazis come from? They're all around us. Swede Oct 2023 #10
It still boggles my mind that any decent mature adult Martin Eden Oct 2023 #11
What can possibly snap these people out of that mass psychosis? 617Blue Oct 2023 #20
Is time on our side? Martin Eden Oct 2023 #23
It baffles me, too. No matter how many explanations... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #33
TFG is the most amoral irreligious POtuS Martin Eden Oct 2023 #36
Why? Because a certain of people in the U.S. want Adolf Trump to be President, That's Why Stuart G Oct 2023 #37
Do a great job at what, specifically? Martin Eden Oct 2023 #39
Be a total dictator, that is how. Yes, there are a certain amount of people (small percentage) who want a dictator in Stuart G Oct 2023 #42
It has a lot more to do with base emotions and prejudice Martin Eden Oct 2023 #43
My oldest brother was the one right winger in the family. wnylib Oct 2023 #51
Anything bad that befalls them (repug voters) because of a Repug administration WILL be blamed on Democrats. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #64
In other words, TFG did NOT do a "great job" Martin Eden Oct 2023 #66
He got more votes before the insurrection ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #60
Correct, my timing was off Martin Eden Oct 2023 #62
So sad and so true. KarenS Oct 2023 #12
Yes. I can't abide these people in my life anymore. 617Blue Oct 2023 #14
They have a plan, just like in invasion of the body snatchers, gab13by13 Oct 2023 #15
We'll be in huge trouble when they infiltrate the judiciary ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #61
His supporters. Hotler Oct 2023 #16
Do their reasons for hating Dems hold much truth? Martin Eden Oct 2023 #24
No. Boomerproud Oct 2023 #38
Which means they are fools Martin Eden Oct 2023 #40
Kudos to Rushbo/Ailes/Murdoch for the division in America. rubbersole Oct 2023 #25
He's just a mirror Shermann Oct 2023 #21
Yes it is no longer about Trump. It is about the American people. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #22
It was a meme, long ago. ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #26
I agree. Trump would be just another sociopathic mob boss, Ocelot II Oct 2023 #29
I always Rebl2 Oct 2023 #31
Quite possibly, but the real question is why so many people are eager Ocelot II Oct 2023 #32
I just gotta chime in here to mention the 1st movie in The Left Behind series bluestarone Oct 2023 #49
Good question Rebl2 Oct 2023 #58
The groundwork for this fact-free hate zone Republicans have built Bucky Oct 2023 #30
What people advocate isn't nearly as important as what they will silently tolerate. nt hay rick Oct 2023 #34
k r n t ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2023 #35
I long for the day COL Mustard Oct 2023 #41
The worst thing about him is the fucker won't go away Warpy Oct 2023 #44
Almost every family has one. Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #45
I wish I only had one Pototan Oct 2023 #67
I was surrounded by MAGATS at work. Ohiya Oct 2023 #46
I feel the same way now about some progressives Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #47
Soooooo true donheld Oct 2023 #48
No, that's actually the *best* thing about him. intrepidity Oct 2023 #50
I'd say another bad thing is Susan Calvin Oct 2023 #52
HIs dirty diapers come in as a close second randr Oct 2023 #54
Out of the Nazi playbook, and to Vlad's delight, he successfully divided us. Now what happens? nt Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #56
I agree with that statement Skittles Oct 2023 #57
Cannot seem to avoid him Sessuch Oct 2023 #59
The answer is easy. Bird Lady Oct 2023 #65

gordianot

(15,696 posts)
1. It is like the old body snatchers horror movies.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:20 AM
Oct 2023

There is no chance of recovery and the victims are consumed by the monster to a fate of living death.

Pototan

(2,886 posts)
2. I watched the 1950's version, but remember
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:23 AM
Oct 2023

the 1970's version with Donald Sutherland much better.

It sure does feel like that.

a kennedy

(34,600 posts)
27. Yes, and sooooooooooooo much coverage of him as well....I turn the channel
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:04 AM
Oct 2023

EVERY TIME HIS STUPID FACE, OR NAME COMES ON A “NEWS” station. 🤬 🤬 🤬

maxrandb

(16,904 posts)
7. Yep
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:42 AM
Oct 2023

It's not like he was walking down the street one day, tripped, fell, hit his head and woke up in the White House.

Hugin

(36,962 posts)
8. Yeah... How'd that happen?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:53 AM
Oct 2023

I consider myself lucky if I am walking down the street, trip, fall, and hit my head. I wake up and someone has pulled me out of the street.

EYESORE 9001

(29,155 posts)
9. Since rump descended that escalator, my entire paradigm for personal interaction has shifted
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:56 AM
Oct 2023

If introvert / extrovert tendencies are viewed on a continuum, I’d place myself at roughly 35% introvert, 65% extrovert. I used to interact with those in proximity, including the free expression of my displeasure with those drawing my ire.

Perhaps it was the realization that a good percentage of the people I encounter daily support the orange shitgibbon.

Perhaps it was during mandatory mask-wearing, where facial communication was limited. Did you know there are 50 ways to say ‘FUCK YOU!’ with your eyes alone?

Perhaps it was an incident in a drug store. Coincidentally, this was during the mandatory mask-wearing. I was navigating a crowded aisle and decided I should be closer to the shelves to make room. I’m kinda gorilla-like in handling stuff, so I did a quick pivot-point adjustment that made a bit of noise and didn’t look elegant in performance. A man older and smaller than me rolled up in my face, demanding to know if I had a problem. I assured him I didn’t, but it was an eye-opener to observe how close to the edge everyone seemed.

I succumbed to the madness myself, as you’ll see in this example, where a lesser ‘energy level’ would have sufficed. On a day that I visited a Bob Evans restaurant with my wife, I was wearing a ball cap with the name of the ship on which I served. There was a bit of a wait, and due to lingering COVID-19 restrictions, we had to go outside. A MAGAt, outfitted with that ugly-ass MAGAt hat, said loudly from around 20 feet away, ‘thank you for your service!’ Impulse control took a vacation, and I said back, ‘FUCK OFF, TRAITOR!’ Aside from the shame of embarrassing my wife, I opened up the possibility of receiving a beat-down in a parking lot.

There are other reasons, probably, but I’ve given my paradigm shift a title: do not engage. I don’t make eye contact as readily. I don’t make witty rejoinders to strangers in public places. It’s like I start gauging possible reactions with excruciating detail -to the point that all interaction is unpleasant and angst-ridden.

EYESORE 9001

(29,155 posts)
18. Helluva society, I tells ya!
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:22 AM
Oct 2023

Gotta presume that everyone is armed and itchin’ to dispense some instant justice. I’m not to that point yet, but I’m less likely to interact, in any way, with those in close proximity.

617Blue

(2,086 posts)
19. Same here
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:39 AM
Oct 2023

It's like part of me has been stifled but now that part of me is gone and I'm reflexively wary. My basic assumption about every person I meet is that they support soft fascism and I proceed accordingly.

mountain grammy

(28,315 posts)
55. I love this story!
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:26 PM
Oct 2023

Just read it to my husband.. got a good laugh out of him, not an easy thing to do.

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
11. It still boggles my mind that any decent mature adult
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:17 AM
Oct 2023

Would want that abominable creature to have any position of public responsibility, let alone president of the United States.

It's truly disheartening to see so many people I once thought were decent and normal fall for this pathologically lying malignant narcissist.

It was bad enough in 2016, but after he incited a violent insurrection to overthrow our government he got more votes in 2020.

What can possibly snap these people out of that mass psychosis?

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
23. Is time on our side?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:42 AM
Oct 2023

Are older MAGATs dying off while young people are more likely to vote D?

3catwoman3

(27,923 posts)
33. It baffles me, too. No matter how many explanations...
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:53 AM
Oct 2023

…I read about why he appeals to people, I still find it hard to understand. Perhaps because my own mind does not work that way.

Particularly puzzling is the adoring support from the religious folks. 3 marriages during which he cheated on the current wife, 2 divorces, Tiffany conceived out of wedlock, who knows how many extramarital dalliances, etc, etc.

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
36. TFG is the most amoral irreligious POtuS
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:06 PM
Oct 2023

Ever.

His egregious character flaws go far beyond marital infidelity.

Conservative Christians like to think they are victims as more people reject their ideology, but they are their own worst enemies.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
37. Why? Because a certain of people in the U.S. want Adolf Trump to be President, That's Why
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:14 PM
Oct 2023

Now, we can't see that, but that is true. Why is that? A certain amount of people don't care about
our system of government (call it democracy if you want to) and those people believe that Adolph
Trump would do a great job. (And that is if he gets to be President again)

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
39. Do a great job at what, specifically?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:26 PM
Oct 2023

I understand they're thrilled when liberals and minorities are triggered by Hair Twitler to feel angst, but that is apart from what a president actually does to improve security and prosperity for his voters.

Giving huge tax breaks to the rich and appointing rightwing activist judges who strip rights from women, minorities, and LGBTQ does nothing to materially improve the lives of MAGATs.

My point is they are DELUSIONAL if they actually believe his lies or think he cares what happens to them.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
42. Be a total dictator, that is how. Yes, there are a certain amount of people (small percentage) who want a dictator in
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:45 PM
Oct 2023

United States. (total dictator)

Trump is their dictator. There has always been that small amount in the U.S. They think the process of governing is too
slow and cumbersome. (and it is cumbersome, but that is the way democracies work)

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
43. It has a lot more to do with base emotions and prejudice
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 02:49 PM
Oct 2023

Than with any rational consideration of how government should work. Sure, there are ideologues like Steve Bannon who want to tear it all down, but the vast majority of MAGATs haven't thought it through beyond parroting the rhetoric of the extremists and hating The Left.

If you ask them if they want a dictator who would violate and destroy our Constitution they would say NO, but they say YES to Trump because when he hugs the flag and professes to stand for law and order they believe he's a true patriot who reveres the Constitution like they claim to.

There's a lot of Orwellian doublethink and cognitive dissonance, and for the most part they simply do not understand that Trump poses a bigger threat to what makes America truly great -- our Constituutional framework of checks & balances, among other things -- than any foreign enemy.

They've been manipulated and conned, and YES -- many of them are truly deplorable. They would want Trump even if they understood that he is a treasonous con man who's playing them for fools.

And they ARE fools, because ultimately they would suffer the consequences of dictatorship along with everyone else who is not part of the Christo-fascist oligarchy.

That's my point. Most of them are useful idiots for fat cats who only want to accumulate more wealth and power for themselves.

wnylib

(25,338 posts)
51. My oldest brother was the one right winger in the family.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 04:07 PM
Oct 2023

I remember that, decades ago, when he was a teen and I was still in grade school, he said that the best form of government in the US would be a "benign dictatorship."

He opposed the change in the voting age from 21 to 18 because he said that teen voters would choose their favorite rock stars.

Fast forward to the 21st century when he supported a reality TV show host who had zero governing knowledge or experience.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,433 posts)
64. Anything bad that befalls them (repug voters) because of a Repug administration WILL be blamed on Democrats.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 11:17 AM
Oct 2023

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
66. In other words, TFG did NOT do a "great job"
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 11:27 AM
Oct 2023

To materially improve their lives.

Deflecting blame only shows how gullible his voters are.

aggiesal

(10,385 posts)
60. He got more votes before the insurrection ...
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 12:40 AM
Oct 2023

He did get more votes than he did in 2016, which is disheartening

It will be completely mind blowing if he wins the election in 2024, after inciting a violent insurrection.

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
62. Correct, my timing was off
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 08:56 AM
Oct 2023

After the insurrection and more than 90 felony counts he's still the front runner in the primary, by far.

gab13by13

(30,078 posts)
15. They have a plan, just like in invasion of the body snatchers,
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:46 AM
Oct 2023

They infiltrate into positions of power and authority. It gets to the point in the movie that the normal people can't call the cops because the cops were infiltrated.

The Magats are moving into positions at the state and local levels.

Who ya gonna call?

Hotler

(13,484 posts)
16. His supporters.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:17 AM
Oct 2023

When repug voters were ask in 2016 why they support the orange one they said he was their chance to hurt/punish the Democrats.

Do not underestimate the hate for democrats and liberals by those friends, family, neighbors and coworkers. These fuckers have no idea what a fascist dictatorship will be like as long as the dictator is mean and cruel to Dems/Libs.

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
24. Do their reasons for hating Dems hold much truth?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:45 AM
Oct 2023

R's have been no friend to working Americans, economically.

Martin Eden

(14,972 posts)
40. Which means they are fools
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:28 PM
Oct 2023

Manipulated by a con man and decades of RW propaganda to vote against their own best interests.

Irish_Dem

(76,207 posts)
22. Yes it is no longer about Trump. It is about the American people.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:52 AM
Oct 2023

There will always be conmen and sociopaths who want to enter politics.

Why do Americans fall for their lies?

Because many Americans are so full of hatred for fellow Americans they don't
care if their representatives lie constantly.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
26. It was a meme, long ago.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:51 AM
Oct 2023

Somewhere, I have the gif of it, but I can't remember where I put it on my hard drive.

Ocelot II

(127,742 posts)
29. I agree. Trump would be just another sociopathic mob boss,
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:29 AM
Oct 2023

a John Gotti type without the bodies in car trunks; or a cult leader, Jim Jones without the Kool-Aid, if by some bizarre twist of fate he hadn't become president. His sort is a dime a dozen; there's no shortage of conscience-free narcissists in this world. But those guys always manage to find certain people, the so-called authoritarian followers, who want to be part of their operation and will obey them blindly. We look at the Mafia and the People's Temple and we wonder how anybody could get mixed up with such groups and their leaders, but Trump is exactly that, writ large. We've been smacked upside the head with the reality that a whole lot of people would be happy to belong to criminal mobs or cults as long as they had a leader who would promise them something they wanted - money, power, a group to belong to - no matter how dangerous, debased, immoral or downright evil they had to be in order to belong. Trump is the bastard child of John Gotti and Jim Jones; he gave the millions of authoritarian followers we didn't know walked among us a cult or a mob they could belong to. You didn't have to whack somebody or move to a jungle commune to belong. Just buy a red cap, watch Fox, join your friends at the new Nuremberg rallies and presto, you're a made man.

Rebl2

(17,089 posts)
31. I always
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:38 AM
Oct 2023

had the idea he was a part of the Russian mob long before he became president.

Ocelot II

(127,742 posts)
32. Quite possibly, but the real question is why so many people are eager
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:46 AM
Oct 2023

to throw in with mobsters, regardless of which mob it is.

bluestarone

(20,486 posts)
49. I just gotta chime in here to mention the 1st movie in The Left Behind series
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:24 PM
Oct 2023

That movie ( even though it's fiction) is surprisingly close to explaining TFG and his CULT!

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
30. The groundwork for this fact-free hate zone Republicans have built
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:37 AM
Oct 2023

was laid by Fox News and their ideology driven news distortion. There's always been people like the John Birchers or the southerners too genteel to join the klan but still adamant about segregation.

They didn't swell into the vanguard of the fact hating right-wing mobs until Rupert Murdoch spent a generation and a half whipping up the hateful ignorance that drives the Maga movement and the Tea Party and all the other iterations of right wing madness.

Trump didn't build this train. Trump doesn't build shit. But he did a rock solid job of hijacking it and using it to line his pockets.

COL Mustard

(7,668 posts)
41. I long for the day
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:36 PM
Oct 2023

When I don’t have to hear that whiny voice or see that smirking mug ever again.

Today would be fine, Lord.

Warpy

(114,037 posts)
44. The worst thing about him is the fucker won't go away
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 02:52 PM
Oct 2023

he's all over the news day in and day out. I'm sick and tired of it.

Ohiya

(2,629 posts)
46. I was surrounded by MAGATS at work.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:05 PM
Oct 2023

That was one of the reasons I decided to retire in September of 2020. I just turned 67 and thought I might work a couple of more years, but I'm glad I retired when I did.

donheld

(21,329 posts)
48. Soooooo true
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:12 PM
Oct 2023

Every word of this is true. I grew up evangelical. I left that life 35 years ago, but those I knew from that past life have certainly shown their true colors.

Susan Calvin

(2,367 posts)
52. I'd say another bad thing is
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 05:16 PM
Oct 2023

That he's made some horrible people look better just because they're better than him.

Evolve Dammit

(21,276 posts)
56. Out of the Nazi playbook, and to Vlad's delight, he successfully divided us. Now what happens? nt
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:53 PM
Oct 2023

Skittles

(168,069 posts)
57. I agree with that statement
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:19 PM
Oct 2023

the thing about Trump is, there is not one - and I mean NOT ONE - redeeming feature about him - he fails in EVERY FUCKING way, both as a "leader" and a human fucking being

Sessuch

(220 posts)
59. Cannot seem to avoid him
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:19 PM
Oct 2023

It is constant in the press, TV, and news TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. Please go away Trump.

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