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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou had one chance Iowa, one
And you failed miserably.
Go enjoy your celebratory bump of meth.

yardwork
(68,312 posts)A significant minority of Republicans don't like him, though.
2naSalit
(98,089 posts)That are left in the party are the zombies and a few who are waiting for those to disappear. Thousands died from covid and other left the party, only zombies left on that rat infested ship.
yardwork
(68,312 posts)2naSalit
(98,089 posts)Of participants. Could be revealing when compared to eligible voters.
yardwork
(68,312 posts)Percents are meaningless without numbers. I'm guessing that many Republicans are discouraged by their choices this year. The hardcore Trump MAGAs turned out. Did others?
2naSalit
(98,089 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(11,354 posts)Kornacki was going on about a county that is the second one away from the NW corner, up by Sioux Falls SD, which "punches above it's weight". On and on, as if it were SO DAMN significant. Total number of voters? A little over 100.
But they are very religious.
Fuck them all.
2naSalit
(98,089 posts)Shedding residents for decades. I think that's where that racist, King was it?, held a House seat.
NJCher
(41,728 posts)I was in such a rush to turn it off that I missed the part about the 100 voters.
Pitiful.
Aviation Pro
(14,900 posts)Very small numbers statewide, very small. This actually bodes well for us in November.
2naSalit
(98,089 posts)What I'm talking about.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)hate him enough to vote for Biden. I hope they just don't vote at all. That will help other Democrats on the ballot.
emulatorloo
(46,132 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)that I have never ever visited Iowa. Sounds like there's some kind of disease there.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)including ones we will win.
Its the Republican white nationalist crime syndicate and theocratic domestic terrorist organization, it is what they are.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Republicans are not the only people in Iowa. In fact, there are 471,000 Democrats, compared to 594,000 Republicans. Rob Sand, a personal fried of mine is a Democrat and the elected State Auditor. Tom Vilsack, President Biden's Secretary of Agriculture, is a Democrat and a former Governor.
speak easy
(12,454 posts)for Dem consultants and insiders, ready to defend the 'first in the nation' at the drop of a hat. When NH bites the dust, the boondoggle will be over.
... but but we could try and defend NH right? The primary that put Joe Biden 5th? No.
progressoid
(52,128 posts)As an Iowan I can say that I won't miss the constant barrage of bullshit ads on the TV and radio. Even ads on the games on my phone. Good riddance.
But if you think moving this to from Iowa and NH to another state will be any less of a boondoggle, you are sorely mistaken.
speak easy
(12,454 posts)progressoid
(52,128 posts)speak easy
(12,454 posts)The closest to a demographic representative of the USA.
progressoid
(52,128 posts)Regardless, how would moving it to CT make the "boondoggle" go away?
In some ways it will get worse. Cost of living in CT is the 9th highest in the Union. It'll cost your candidate 30 to 40% more to advertise in CT than Iowa or NH. In the 2020 campaign, Democrats spent a mere 44 million dollars in ads in Iowa. Not so much this year. But it's estimated that the GOP spent at least 140 million in Iowa this election cycle. Expect that to increase dramatically by 2024. Imagine how much more money candidates will have to have to campaign in CT. And lets not even talk about the lodging shortage in CT for staffers and media to stay while there.
Frankly, I don't give a shit where it starts. But having witnessed the machinations of the party and different campaigns, I seriously doubt that moving it to another state is going to make a hell of a lot of difference boondoggle-wise. Making the sausage in CT is going to be just as messy as IA or NH.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)yardwork
(68,312 posts)The MAGAs in Iowa are no different than the MAGAs in California or Vermont. They're MAGAs. They're everywhere.
Skittles
(168,075 posts)THEY ARE A CULT
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)You're going to base your entire view of a state based on a small fraction of one party?
That seems rather misguided.
edisdead
(3,359 posts)Skittles
(168,075 posts)Minnesota folk said IOWA stood for IDIOTS OUT WALKING ABOUT
Ocelot II
(127,742 posts)But I will qualify that to say that the Iowa GOP sucks. Hard enough to bend light.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,323 posts)Traveling through Iowa enroute yo Galena, Illinois, we would stop in either in Waterloo or Decorah for lunch.
There is nothing to see in Iowa but for farms, small towns. Even Davenport and Des Moines have few attractions if any.
Skittles
(168,075 posts)I have lived in both Waterloo and Decorah!
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,323 posts)Decorah has Luther College.
There is a Flying J near where one gets to Hwy 20 in Waterloo. Stopped in Guttenberg a few times too on the way to Galena. Other than that, open with farms and lettered Routes.
Skittles
(168,075 posts)I moved from England to Iowa and slept on my aunt's couch....my brothers and mum stayed with my grandparents in Mabel, right across the border......later the family was reunited when my dad left an extended hospital stay, and we moved to Illinois.
claudette
(5,455 posts)that was harsh. But I dont understand how they can be that way I feel the same way about Texass. Couldnt live in either state.
NJCher
(41,728 posts)There is one place I kinda' liked: Pella, where they make the Pella windows. It has Dutch roots and they are big on tulips there, so of course the gardener in me liked that.
madaboutharry
(42,013 posts)There is not some kind of disease there. Your post is uninformed.
róisín_dubh
(12,150 posts)I didn't get the job, thankfully, but Cedar Falls seemed okay. Mind you, I lived 7 years in Oklahoma and 8-ish in West Virginia. West Virginia never felt like home, after all that time I spent there. Meh. I'm not a rural state kind of person. Nor am I a fan of being landlocked.
There are lunatics all over.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)I've been to every continental state west of the Mississippi, save for Washington and Oregon, and a good deal of the southern ones. Only the accents and geography are different, really.
Otherwise, you'll find the same idiotic religious fervour. Same vast stretches of nothing with the occasional backwards small town. Same stupid. Same bigotries. Same loudness (why are so many stupid Americans so very *loud* about it?).
Oh---and the same homogeneity of lots of white skin in the podunk areas. Sure, states like Alabama and Mississippi have a high percentage of black people, but if you're driving along I-55 or I-65 through the yokel parts of those states, you'll hardly ever see someone brown. You usually have to get off the road and then head well into the boonies for that. Not always, but far more often than one would think. And I've been to the Greenwood, MS. Even went through Money, where Emmett Till got in trouble with those racist traitor thugs.
Guess how many black people I saw the week I was there?
ZERO. It's like they didn't dare go anywhere near where more than a few white people would be. But I most certainly ran into a bunch of stupid, bigoted, unpleasant and too loud white people, everywhere I went in the Delta.
Skull Valley, UT (where my then-husband, infant son and I were nearly murdered by some thugs--not a joke). Same as Penwell, TX (another place where Mum and I were nearly killed when some redneck was too stupid to know which side of the road he belonged on). Same as Kimball, SD. Same as Blencoe, IA. Same as Lusk, WY. Same as--
Well, you get the idea.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,679 posts)What world do these people live in where republicans are picking someone else?
They LOVE this guy. Hes the epitome of everything they hold dear.
Ocelot II
(127,742 posts)Especially in caucus states, where the people who attend caucuses are likely to be the most dedicated fanboys, TFG has a stranglehold on the GOP primaries. Unless some deus ex machina appears (the Grim Reaper, maybe?), he'll be the nominee.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Ocelot II
(127,742 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Ocelot II
(127,742 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,287 posts)It doesnt matter which state.
Republicans are systematically broken. Theyve fallen into a cult.
NJCher
(41,728 posts)The Deconstrutionists The 25-Year Crackup of the Republican Party. Here's the snip from Amazon:
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In 1994, more than 300 Republicans under the command of obstructionist and rabble-rouser Congressman Newt Gingrich stood outside the U.S. Capitol to sign the Contract with America and put bipartisanship on notice. Twenty-five years later, on January 6, 2021, a bloodthirsty mob incited by President Trump invaded the Capitol.
Dana Milbank sees a clear line from the Contract with America to the coup attempt. In the quarter century in between, Americans have witnessed the crackup of the party of Lincoln and Reagan, to its current iteration as a haven for white supremacists, political violence, conspiracy theories and authoritarianism.
Following the questionable careers of party heavyweights Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, and Rudy Giuliani, and those of many lesser known lowlights, Milbank recounts the shocking lengths the Republican Party has gone to to maintain its grip on the American people.
snip
All of us old-timers here saw it happen. We said in our posts all the things that Milbank has written about.
moniss
(8,172 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,323 posts)Tells you all you need to know about Iowa.
Coventina
(28,791 posts)She's the only one I know personally who EVER goes to Iowa.
RockRaven
(18,167 posts)out of those types these days. They are who we thought they were.
W_HAMILTON
(9,672 posts)Republicans are the cause of this mess to begin with.
It's up to us to put down this MAGA movement once again -- and hopefully, once and for all.
LudwigPastorius
(13,597 posts)They snort genetically modified corn meal.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)moniss
(8,172 posts)in Iowa over the years. I came to the conclusion long ago that the idea that so many of these people are moving from a genuine religious basis misses what they really are. It is racist, sexist, authoritarian etc. and uses a cloak of Christianity to make their claim to be functioning from some deep, moral place. These people will demonstrate massive self serving greed in the form of demanding ag subsidies for themselves while at the same time going to any length to deny medical or food assistance to poor people. They are all about telling everyone around them how to live and believe and they sure do keep track of who and what does or does not comply.
At the same time I met lots of wonderful people in Iowa who exist side by side with their horrible neighbors and keep fighting for Iowa to not be so ignorant, intolerant and awful.
lees1975
(6,794 posts)He got just over 50% of the vote from one of the most conservative state parties in the country. Glad to see MSNBC point out that isn't exctly an inspiring performance from a former president who has gotten all the attention that he has received.
There's enough "I'm not going to vote for Trump at all" in those exit polls that seems to be stuffed under the carpet. The media is fascinated by the fact that two thirds of his supporters will vote for him even if he is convicted, but back away from the fact that a full third of them say that would make a difference in their support. That's well outside the margins that will decide the election on a national level. If there are that many Republicans who won't support him if he is convicted, he's going to get beaten badly.
Looks to me like all of the information coming out of Iowa indicates that it may flip back to blue.
tornado34jh
(1,512 posts)I get it is only the Republican Caucus, but considering it has been a red state for some time, I am skeptical and not putting my eggs into one basket hoping it will be.
onenote
(45,726 posts)Which of those two would you prefer to be the Repub candidate instead of Trump? And keep in mind, that the polling shows that in the general election, Trump is the weakest of the three?
MistakenLamb
(791 posts)JanMichael
(25,725 posts)evilclown
(24 posts)Please remember the republicans and Tump ended the China trade deal which hurt the iowa farmers by greatly reducing our exports of our farm grown grains. Iowa farmers would have been furious except they were bailed out by huge farm socialist subsidies. While the rest of the USA were hurting from Trumps economic policies Iowa farmers were happy as a pig in slop they didnt have to do anything but sit back and enjoy the bribe that came from endorsing Trump. The large cities in Iowa didnt benefit much from the subsidies and still arent huge Trump supporters. For some reason the Democratic Party in Iowa refuses to tackle local issues such as the decline and closing of schools and hospitals in our rural towns. Iowa went from having some of the best academic public schools and now are in the middle of the pack of declining States. Immigration is needed to perform work on the farms and in construction and service industries yet the iowa gop answer is to lower the age for children to work in dangerous jobs including packing houses. A majority of iowa women want fair and open healthcare, contraception and abortion policies as well as restrictions on guns / background checks. Still all we hear in iowa is Fox News propaganda. Iowa I can turn blue again but wont without national democratic leadership that focuses on issues important to Iowans.
Raine
(30,973 posts)the easiest to beat???
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,818 posts)Aviation Pro
(14,900 posts)Because I expect Americans even if they're members of the party formerly known as Republican to have a modicum of common sense and decency and not pick a candidate that would end democracy as we know it?
Again, why?
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,818 posts)Marthe48
(22,086 posts)108,288 registered rwnj, about 14.4% showed up at the 2024 caucus. About 51% of that 14.4% cast a vote for traitor. So about 55,226 rwnj cast a vote fr traitor.
Underwhelming if traitor thinks that kind of turnout will get him into the White House
Overwhelming that there are that many people in Iowa who are willing to vote for a traitor.