Other than that, not sure

Is it because she's black and only white people can have them?

How does this compromise an investigation into RICO and Trump if Trump wasn't the "paramour?"

Again, please explain this to me very slowly.

Mistrial so that if trump wins he can dismiss it.

A delay tactic.

with one of the defense lawyers, but how is getting it on with a co-worker any indication of bias?

And I would not necessarily call him her subordinate. Wade has a bit more power than any of her so-called subordinates.

This affair is not ground for disqualification

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in which case I don't give a shit and neither should anyone else. If on the other hand if she hired the guy she was having an affair with that could be improper. nepotism(ish)

I can't get through my head. They're on the same team! Who gives a crap. What is the problem here?

and can't come up with a good defense..... so they want to muddy the waters.

except DELAY DELAY DELAY 🙄

of the same.

And approve or disapprove.

some action every now and then, especially on a case like this! Minus the "subordinate" characterization, of course. I would describe it as colleagues?

How would you describe a relationship at a restaurant between a manager and a server? It's technically colleagues, but you have to emphasize that one is the boss.

But we know if it's a male manager and a female server, he's taking advantage of his position to lure young women in.
If it's a male server and a female manager, it's dirty but acceptable.

So who care who anyone shtupps as long as it's consensual?

They banned it in a restaurant that I was working at. A server can date another server or host, and a manager could date another manager. The General Manager couldn't date anyone, because there was only one GM.

I totally see the owner's point too. As a server, I would have gotten away with a lot more if I was dating a manger, such as better sections and a better schedule.

that feels they need to control all aspects of their employees lives, even that part when they aren't clocked in.

And it's funny. . .I knew a principal (male) married to a teacher (female) in the same school after he was promoted and he treated his wife on the job the same as he treated all other teachers, including when she was late on her paperwork.

Amazing how maturity plays a factor. But what do I know?

Back to my original point. . .how does her affair change the facts found during a RICO invesigation? How does it change the indictment? How does it taint a jury pool?

It doesn't matter IN the court room and it shouldn't matter at all in criminal proceedings.

It took a lot for them to fire people, and they fed us for free too. They just thought this dating policy was a good idea, and I get their point. Not saying that I agree or not, or that I would implement it, but I get it.

I just wanted to know how the other person felt about a situation like that, and they responded.

I see it more along those lines. Wade is a private attorney and judge lending his expertise (and apparently some extra services on the side ). He's not an employee IMO.

All of that said, I do wish they could have kept things more professional. Anything that slows down donny from meeting his jail cell is very very unfortunate. Jack Smith Chutkan etc PLEASE do NOT fuck or socialize with anyone for the next few months!

STAY FOCUSED DAMMITT!!!

But the contractor aspect makes it worse. A government manager having a personal relationship with a contractor/vendor that their department does business with creates a huge conflict of interest.

Just saying

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It also could get the judge off the hook vis à vis Trumpworld. Perhaps, perhaps not.

You really didn't think the courts would save us from Trump, did you?

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I did a double take. No, make that a triple take! Wtaf.

… has nothing to do with the investigation. This is only a hearing to determine if Willis should be removed from the case because she gave a paramour a job paid for by tax payers. If he got the job on his courtroom skills, it’s a nothingburger. If he got the job because of his bedroom skills, it’s a problem for her.

I understand he got the job before they got busy in the sack. If that’s the case, the judges hearing should establish that and they can move on.

And didn't pay for an extra hotel room for cover!

Also, wasn't he an independent contractor? That's not a direct subordinate, so a lot of rules r/e subordinate relationships simply don't apply.

Juries don't go "The DA had an affair. . .not guilty."

All this is a distraction.

Which leads us to, what are the rules for relationships between a governmental department managers and contractors that their departments have contracts with. Seems like that might be a problem.

Two people genuinely engaged in a mutual relationship, when one is in a position of power over the other, remains sexual harassment because of either Quid Pro Quo or Hostile Work Environment.

Under Quid Pro Quo, the perception is that the person in the position of power forced the issue.

Under Hostile Work Environment, the perception from others in the office is the the person in the position of power is giving preferential treatment to the person they are sleeping with.

Conflict of Interest is the same way. Conflict of Interest creates a perception that something is not right, but it does not mean that something wrong has happened--only that the perception is there.

Personally, I don't care about who she is with if her office can prove the CRIME was committed and TRUMP did it, which is all that needs to be done.

This is a RICO TRIAL.

Coworkers sleep with coworkers, and it usually ends messy. If one is in the management chain, then it's completely fucked up.

I've seen where a manager was trying to sleep with women who report to them, and the manager clearly seemed to be using their position and influence to get women to sleep with them. Sometimes, women do sleep with their manager, I believe, because they don't think the employer will handle the situation appropriately, and I've seen it. The manager gets warned and the employee gets fired--not right away, they bide their time.

With a criminal trial where the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt, I suspect any good lawyer can throw enough doubt at the case as to make a conviction impossible.

as long it's consensual and it isn't a child.

Fuck this puritanical garbage. My ass.

Over a half million dollars of public funds. It’s grossly unprofessional at the least and a waste of money if it results in starting over.

This is a fishing expedition by Assfaced Shitgibbon and his trolls in "legal" to delay, muddy waters, and launch into self-righteousness.

Be walking the line and acting beyond reproach to prevent a mistrial. Every large court case that gets media play discusses everything the judges are doing to prevent taking actions that could be deemed questionable. Sleeping with a subordinate can get you dismissed at Arby’s. These people are very well paid.

grist for everyone's mill.

made it a campaign plank, hammered it on home, won. . .and the Republicans saw a winning campaign issue to us with RW Christian trolls that want saints and not people.

Except when they do it, it's just an indiscretion. When Democrats do it, it's a major character flaw that shows the Democrat is ill-equipped to have public office or trust.

Arranging dates, marriages, divorces etc. It was almost like high school, LOL.
These were well known companies.

Work environment at both places was toxic, but the dating was the least toxic aspect. No one gave it a thought. Sexual harassment was common place at the phone company. One guy followed me into my apartment without permission and was constantly asking me questions about my personal life. (He was married. He was harassing me. It was a form of intimidation) I had no legal standing against this. People would steal your work, they would mess up your work. It seemed instead of working, most co-workers were engaged in sabotage. The phone company eventually folded.

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It was so bad, I got out of the corporate world and vowed I would never work in business again in my life. I didn't leave because of the dating. It was all the other stuff.
I went to nursing school
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Interns and nurses dating was acceptable, although it was not common. (Let's face it, if you're single nurse and interacting with a group of interns, it's a pretty good set up. They have their own room and you go over there and interact with them professionally to clarify orders etc) Although I really didn't see flirting on the job, I know a few relationships developed) I remember in the 90's, all of a sudden, those relationships had to be under the radar. We had some training about it too and were told to avoid flirting on the job etc. I was old and married by then.

Until a few years ago, we had ZERO policies prohibiting it. There was a case of a husband working as a Deputy Director, essentially second in command, and his wife was the HR Director, who reported to her husband. I wasn't working there at the time, but I was gobsmacked to learn this. Pressure built, and she finally took a job at another agency.

I know of several managers whom I believe are serial predators that transfer from agency to agency skirting a concluded investigation. And I cannot seem to get anyone to take notice.

I hadn’t seen this.

She didn't think that someone who looked like that would end up on the team. He's really handsome.



Just kidding. I think.

We have county courts at law and state district courts. County courts handle misdemeanors and some felonies.

Felonies are considered state charges.

In Trump's case, it is very likely, "Georgia vs Trump", not "Fulton County vs Trump".

Grand Jury indictments almost always go to state Courts. Each state gives their state courts unique names: Superior Court, Circuit Court etc. Although state courts are local, a change of venue can be ordered to another county in the state. (This is true in all 50 states) A county court case, really can't be given a change of venue in another county.

Perhaps you should work on the understanding.

Trump is raising question re: the truthfulness of that affidavit. If with of them were less than truthful in their filing, that’s gonna be an issue. Boink all you want…boink in your office….hell, boink in the courtroom after hours…but don’t misrepresent anything to the court. Ever.

Even before the distraction came to light, Willis was saying the trial wouldn't start before late August and might be 2025 (of course, she might have known what was about to drop).

trump is still guilty, but thanks to this distraction, it may be years -- if ever -- before trump goes to trial.

pound the law; if the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If neither the law nor the facts are on your side, smear the prosecuting attorneys" - retrograde's update to an old saying.

Donnie's side knows Willis and her team have a very strong case. They can't argue based on what they did, so the only tactic left to them is to attack, attack, attack the prosecution's team - throw all the mud they can find and make up at Willis and hope something sticks enough to at least taint the jury pool.

I think Willis made a mistake in this close attachment to a fellow prosecutor, but it happens in a lot of fields. But bottom line, her real "mistake" was being a woman - and a woman of color - who dared try hold Donnie accountable for his actions.

bury them in paperwork.