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cbabe

(5,710 posts)
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 12:20 PM Feb 2024

Ignored by 'Oppenheimer,' atomic test victims speak out

https://www.rawstory.com/ignored-by-oppenheimer-atomic-test-victims-speak-out-2667397510/

Ignored by 'Oppenheimer,' atomic test victims speak out

Agence France-Presse
February 29, 2024 7:35AM ET

Wesley Burris was fast asleep in bed when the world's first atomic bomb exploded just 25 miles from his front door. A blinding light filled the home in the New Mexico desert, before the impossible force of the blast shattered its windows, spraying glass across the four-year-old boy and his brother. "It was so bright, I couldn't see," Burris recalls. "I can remember asking, 'Dad, what happened? Did the Sun blow up?'"



The test took place amid thunderstorms, despite scientists' warnings, in the race to have the bomb ready for a key World War II summit with the Soviets. Torrential rains brought toxic debris straight back down, where it irradiated the desert dust, the water supplies and the food chain. Burris has lost his brother to cancer. His sister had it too, as does her daughter.

And he himself has skin cancer, which he tries to treat with traditional Native American medicine. Despite all this, no New Mexican affected by radiation from the Trinity test has received a dime in compensation. "We were guinea pigs," said Tina Cordova, a cancer survivor who runs the Tularosa Basin Downwinders Consortium, calling for justice. "But they come back and check on guinea pigs. Nobody's ever come back to check on us."



"Wouldn't it be remarkable if during the Academy Awards, any one of them said, 'I want to acknowledge the sacrifice and suffering of the people of New Mexico,'" said Cordova. "They knew about us when they made the film -- they just chose to ignore us again."

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Ignored by 'Oppenheimer,' atomic test victims speak out (Original Post) cbabe Feb 2024 OP
U.S. Nuclear Test Killed Far More Civilians Than We Knew Kid Berwyn Feb 2024 #1
Very important malaise Feb 2024 #2
Self delete SergeStorms Feb 2024 #3
If I recall correctly, Codifer Feb 2024 #4
It was only 3 and half hours. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #5
"...just 25 miles from his front door....before the impossible force of the blast shattered its windows," EX500rider Feb 2024 #6

Kid Berwyn

(22,123 posts)
1. U.S. Nuclear Test Killed Far More Civilians Than We Knew
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 12:31 PM
Feb 2024
Hundreds of thousands of civilians were poisoned by irradiated milk, raising the previously estimated toll by a huge factor.

TIM FERNHOLZ,
QUARTZ | February 17, 2017

When the U.S. entered the nuclear age, it did so recklessly. New research suggests that the hidden cost of developing nuclear weapons were far larger than previous estimates, with radioactive fallout responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973.

The study, performed by University of Arizona economist Keith Meyers , uses a novel method (pdf) to trace the deadly effects of this radiation, which was often consumed by Americans drinking milk far from the site of atomic tests.

From 1951 to 1963, the U.S. tested nuclear weapons above ground in Nevada. Weapons researchers, not understanding the risks—or simply ignoring them—exposed thousands of workers to radioactive fallout. The emissions from nuclear reactions are deadly to humans in high doses, and can cause cancer even in low doses. At one point, researchers had volunteers stand underneath an airburst nuclear weapon to prove how safe it was :



The emissions, however, did not just stay at the test site, and drifted in the atmosphere. Cancer rates spiked in nearby communities, and the US government could no longer pretend that fallout was anything but a silent killer.

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https://www.govexec.com/technology/2017/12/us-nuclear-test-killed-far-more-civilians-then-we-knew/144762/

Codifer

(1,104 posts)
4. If I recall correctly,
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:22 PM
Feb 2024

Care was taken to explode the bombs only when the wind was not blowing towards Las Vegas. In that circumstance, however, the wind blew towards Kanab Utah.

Pretty place, used for cowboy movie location filming. The whole list of John Wayne movies were done there. Many of the familiar cast, including Wayne (Marion Morrison) died of cancer.

Ironic.

Edit to say:

The list of John Wayne westerns that would be. Obviously Kanab, pretty as it is, would not be a location reflecting; Normandy, Bataan, China, Korea, Pacific Islands and Viet Nam or the couple dozen other places where John Wayne was a great and tough and right wing spokes-asshole and All Round Freaking Hero.

maxsolomon

(37,557 posts)
5. It was only 3 and half hours.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:35 PM
Feb 2024

Oppenheimer largely ignored the horrible toll on the Japanese, as well.

Burris expects too much from what was basically a biopic.

EX500rider

(12,038 posts)
6. "...just 25 miles from his front door....before the impossible force of the blast shattered its windows,"
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:34 PM
Feb 2024

Yeah, not possible at that range.

A 25 kiloton explosion drops below 1 psi overpressure at 5k, 25m is 40k.


You can run the numbers here:
https://nuclearweaponsedproj.mit.edu/Node/104

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