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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUC Berkeley professor is being pilloried after telling students to "get out of the Bay Area" if they want a girlfriend.
A UC Berkeley professor is being pilloried after telling students to get out of the Bay Area if they want a girlfriend.
If you want a girlfriend, get out of the Bay Area. Almost everywhere else on the planet is better for that. Im not kidding at all. Youll be shocked by the stark differences in behavior of women in places where women are plentiful versus their behavior within artillery distance of San Jose and San Francisco.
Shewchuks comments were in response to a student who was asking for advice about finding work in the Bay Area and dating in the area, the Daily Cal reported. Screenshots of the post and the discussion surrounding it circulated through several social media outlets, including Reddit and X.
After learning about the post, the universitys computer science chair Stuart Russell and electrical engineering and computer science chair Claire Tomlin spoke with Shewchuk, Montez said. Shewchuk then issued an apology.
According to a screenshot of Shewchuks apology posted to Reddit, he said he did not intend to convey any disrespect for women. He also said he made the comment because of sympathy for the student and to help students.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-professor-criticized-comments-women-19363213.php
Some students told the Daily Cal that Shewchuk has made offensive comments in the past, including misogynistic comments.

area51
(12,461 posts)Riiiiiiiiiight.
stopdiggin
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Silent3
(15,909 posts)If so (and only if so) it's quite true that the women can afford to be much choosier about whom they date, and a man will have a harder time finding a date.
Perhaps this professor "has made offensive comments in the past", as "Some students told the Daily Cal", but, in and of itself, a statistical truth about a more difficult dating scene shouldn't be considered offensive.
Sympthsical
(10,734 posts)I live in the Bay Area and have straight friends, and I've heard this chatter from them for nearly a decade, both the women and the men. A lot of tech money is in the region, and women can be choosier about who they go on dates with (this is not a bad thing!). Mix in the absurd cost of living - housing prices included - and a lot of people feel they have to either be at a certain level or seek others who are at that level.
So, if you're a male not in tech or a similar industry and rolling in it, you're not having as easy a time. Particularly if you're young and starting out, because tech people make bank out of the gate where others are just trying to get started. I'm not saying they're having a hard time. I'm just saying not as easy. So there's resentment and things floating around due to that when men who are just doing ok are seeing asshole tech bros succeeding. The Bay Area is considered much better for women seeking dates than men. At least that's the popular impression of the situation. You hear it everywhere.
But hey, there are other regions where it's flipped around a bit. So it goes.
So glad I'm gay. Here's how I dated around in the Bay Area before settling down.
*opens app*
*goes on date*
The end.
Professor still sounds like kind of an asshole regardless. "How women behave." Lord.
JonAndKatePlusABird
(360 posts)Preach!
Sympthsical
(10,734 posts)I cackled.
Lancero
(3,243 posts)usonian
(21,062 posts)But Noooooooooh
Talking about behavior is making a generalization, and in this case, a smear as well.
Some people never grow up.
I worked at Cal, and never offended anyone because I thought about what I was going to say, and how it might be perceived, before saying it.
ForgedCrank
(2,888 posts)me some people are looking way too hard for things to get offended by if this is the bar
MrsCheaplaugh
(253 posts)JonAndKatePlusABird
(360 posts)When I think of the Bay Area, thats my first thought, whether Cupertino is within artillery fire distance of SF
proper.
Also, the first person I would want to talk to when I want dating advice is my Computer Science Professor. Sure Dr. Smellslikefart, enlighten me on What Women Want.
Sympthsical
(10,734 posts)About 15 mins. San Jose has gone insane as tech and housing demand started creeping across that city. I have a nephew whose girlfriend got a job with Stanford medical after she finished school, so they decided to move down there.
They are paying in rent almost as much for a one bedroom apartment as I am on my mortgage for a five-bedroom house in North Bay. They needed a co-signer (they're early twenties), and the entire time I was standing in the kitchen saying in increasingly hysterical tones of disbelief, "This is a mortgage . . ."
If you're not making money. Don't bother.
As for the poor and working class who are being displaced . . . meh. Someone will get around to bothering about that someday. Maybe.
LetMyPeopleVote
(170,591 posts)A couple of weeks ago, some law students disrupted a dinner at the private home of UC Berkely Dean and his wife. See
Link to tweet
This Dean was on MSNBC with Katy Tur and so I had to look up the article that this Dean published. Here is a great article by Dean Erwin Chemerinsky on the First Amendment.
Link to tweet
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/campus-protest-first-amendment-berkeley/678186/
On April 9, about 60 students came to our home for dinner. Our guests were seated at tables in our backyard. Just as they began eating, I was stunned to see the leader of Law Students for Justice in Palestinewho was among the registered guestsstand up with a microphone that she had brought, go up the steps in the yard, and begin reading a speech about the plight of the Palestinians. My wife and I immediately approached her and asked her to stop speaking and leave the premises. The protester continued. At one point, my wife attempted to take away her microphone. Repeatedly, we said to her: You are a guest in our home. Please leave.
The student insisted that she had free-speech rights. But our home is not a forum for free speech; it is our own property, and the First Amendmentwhich constrains the governments power to encroach on speech on public propertydoes not apply at all to guests in private backyards. The dinner, which was meant to celebrate graduating students, was obviously disrupted. Even if we had held the dinner in the law-school building, no one would have had a constitutional right to disrupt the event. I have taught First Amendment law for 44 years, and as many other experts have confirmed, this is not a close question.....
Being at the center of a social-media firestorm was strange and unsettling. We received thousands of messages, many very hateful and some threatening. For days, we got death threats. An organized email campaign demanded that the regents and campus officials fire my wife and me, and another organized email campaign supported us. Amid an intensely painful sequence of events, we experienced one upside: After receiving countless supportive messages from people we have met over the course of decades, we felt like Jimmy Stewart at the end of Its a Wonderful Life.
Overall, though, this experience has been enormously sad. It made me realize how anti-Semitism is not taken as seriously as other kinds of prejudice. If a student group had put up posters that included a racist caricature of a Black dean or played on hateful tropes about Asian American or LGBTQ people, the school would have eruptedand understandably so. But a plainly anti-Semitic poster received just a handful of complaints from Jewish staff and students.
Many peoples reaction to the incident in our yard reflected their views of what is happening in the Middle East. But it should not be that way. The dinners at our house were entirely nonpolitical; there was no program of any kind. And our university communities, along with society as a whole, will be worse off if every social interactionincluding ones at peoples private homesbecomes a forum for uninvited political monologues.
The First Amendment does not allow one to stage a demonstration at the private home of a law School Dean. If this law student oes graduate, she may find a hard time finding a job at a major law firm.