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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:26 AM Dec 2012

Dragging Secretive Trade Talks Into the Light: Activists Expose Slow-Motion Corporate Coup

http://www.alternet.org/world/dragging-secretive-trade-talks-light-activists-expose-slow-motion-corporate-coup


Leaders from member states of the Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership Agreement.
Photo Credit: Government of Chile/Wikimedia Commons

While the election season seized everyone’s attention, government officials and 600 official corporate “advisors” were working behind closed doors to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Negotiations have been cloaked in unprecedented secrecy and its proponents have mislabeled the TPP as a “free trade” agreement. In reality, the TPP is about much more than trade. It threatens a stealthy, slow-motion corporate coup d'etat, formalizing and locking in corporate rule over most aspects of our lives.

Thirteen years ago, at the World Trade Organization’s (WTO) Seattle Ministerial, a similar threat in the form of a massive expansion of the powers and scope of the WTO was stopped.

At the Battle in Seattle, the immovable object called grassroots democracy was victorious over the allegedly unstoppable force of corporate-led globalization. The “Doha Round,” which followed two years later and continued the attempt to expand the WTO’s reign, was also derailed thanks to tenacious campaigning by organizations and activists worldwide.

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Dragging Secretive Trade Talks Into the Light: Activists Expose Slow-Motion Corporate Coup (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2012 OP
So Let Me Get This Straight dballance Dec 2012 #1
That sums it up nicely. Bibliovore Dec 2012 #7
Exactly! nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #21
K & R AzDar Dec 2012 #2
This where the phrase "corporate shill" comes into play. n/t djean111 Dec 2012 #3
K&R ReRe Dec 2012 #4
The TPee-Pee will make farmer's markets illegal. fasttense Dec 2012 #5
So, evidently, is Obama. djean111 Dec 2012 #9
That's horrible but.... FredStembottom Dec 2012 #11
When do they come after backyard gardens? IDemo Dec 2012 #18
They're coming after them in California right now. Trillo Dec 2012 #19
Strongly encourages outsourcing of US jobs. annabanana Dec 2012 #6
k/r marmar Dec 2012 #8
From what I've read TPP is worse than NAFTA(which is horrible). Why give up control over byeya Dec 2012 #10
One can NOT be FOR more "Free Trade", bvar22 Dec 2012 #12
Tell that to FDR who lowered tariffs and set up the low-tariff trading system for pampango Dec 2012 #22
THAT is a bit-of-a-leap bvar22 Dec 2012 #24
Anonymous have been shouting against the TPP for months and months. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #13
DURec leftstreet Dec 2012 #14
Chairman Harper is trying to ram through a similar agreement arikara Dec 2012 #15
K&R for the latest shit sandwich we're all supposed to take a big bite of with a big smile. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #16
I'm afraid the coup has been successful progressoid Dec 2012 #17
oh my. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #20
The Koch Roaches won't be satisfhied until they're supreme overlords of the universe. Initech Dec 2012 #23
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
1. So Let Me Get This Straight
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:38 AM
Dec 2012

The UN treaty on disabled people based on the US's ADA and with no enforcement provisions would be an unprecedented intrusion into US sovereignty and state's rights. But the TPP is a great deal despite the fact it would allow corporations new and unprecedented powers to ignore or invalidate laws in the member countries including the US.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
5. The TPee-Pee will make farmer's markets illegal.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:28 AM
Dec 2012

Or at least make them open to litigation by foreign corporation because they encourage local produce and NOT foreign made products as well.

In the eyes of multinational corporations, farmer's markets are everything that they hate. They keep the money in local communities. They encourage local purchases over foreign or corporate purchases, they give local communities self determination and control.

If the TPee-Pee passes, any state or country which in anyway encourages farmer's markets can be brought to tribunals for litigation to determine what amount of possible future profits the farmer's market may have taken from the corporation. If the corporations wins, which they probably will because what local farmer's market has the money to defend itself against an army of lawyers, then farmer's markets will have to go away or the state or country will face a huge fine. Then the people will have no other choice but to buy Monsanto poison laden crops and their monstrous GMO products.

The TPee-Pee will give our sovereignty to corporations and the Teabaggers are all in favor of it.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
9. So, evidently, is Obama.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:55 AM
Dec 2012

I expect that things like farmer's markets will sneeringly be called ponies and unicorns.

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
11. That's horrible but....
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:00 PM
Dec 2012

I can hardly think of a more radicalizing outcome than shutting down farmer's markets!

People of all walks of life will definitely notice!

I almost feel like, yes, please, shut down my farmer's market. Do it.

And reap the whirlwind of a few million Americans understanding this Free Trade shit for the very first time.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
18. When do they come after backyard gardens?
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:25 PM
Dec 2012

If I grow a few tomatoes, I've stolen food from the mouth of a Monsanto investor's baby, haven't I?

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
19. They're coming after them in California right now.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:14 PM
Dec 2012

The assertion is to Save the Citrus industry. Citizens are asked for their "cooperation".

What California is doing is finding Asian Citrus Psyillids in traps, and then spraying around those areas all the citrus with a pyrethroid as well as drenching the ground around the tree with imidacloprid. This latter is implicated in colony collapse disorder, as it is a long-term systemic insecticide.

Once the bees are reduced in numbers, the only folks that will be receiving "pollination services" are those that hire beekeeper's colonies.

annabanana

(52,799 posts)
6. Strongly encourages outsourcing of US jobs.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:46 AM
Dec 2012

Very discouraged to see the Prez front and center.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
10. From what I've read TPP is worse than NAFTA(which is horrible). Why give up control over
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

the USA's economic life?

$$$ and Important People I guess

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
12. One can NOT be FOR more "Free Trade",
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:38 PM
Dec 2012

and be Pro-LABOR or Pro-American Working Class at the same time.

The two positions are Mutually Exclusive.

Sorry Virginia,
but there is no such thing as "Free Trade".
There is no such thing as "Free Markets".
And there is no Giant Invisible Hand."
The RICH made that shit up to get MORE MONEY,
and used Smooth Talking politicians to sell their SCAM to gullible Americans.

"Free Trade" demands absolute, blind faith submission to an invisible, magical deity who promises utopia if all of his laws & dictates are followed.
Like other religions that demand Blind Faith Belief, this one is a scam too.

[font size=4]The Graven Image on the altar...

...or the New Church of the Giant Invisible Hand.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
22. Tell that to FDR who lowered tariffs and set up the low-tariff trading system for
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:22 AM
Dec 2012

the post WWII world. He pushed for the United Nations and his Bretton Woods conference in 1944 set up the IMF, World Bank and the GATT (which evolved into the WTO). He believed in multilateral control of international trade and finance to decrease the power of nationalism to create problems between countries.

I suppose FDR was not "Pro-LABOR or Pro-American Working Class at the same time" that he lowered the high tariffs that the republicans handed him in 1933. If high tariffs make a political party "Pro-LABOR or Pro-American Working Class" then the republican administrations (Harding, Coolidge and Hoover) from 1921 to 1933 fit the bill, while Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Harry Truman were the exact opposite.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. THAT is a bit-of-a-leap
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:43 PM
Dec 2012

The World's economic situation was much different immediately following WW2 than it is now.
The World was being divided up among the "Winners", basically Russia (Communist) vs the West (Capitalism).
The creation of the IMF and the World Bank were simply an extension of the WAR into the World Economic Realm,
another "weapon", AND it was an effective one.


"The World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) were created at the end of World War II by the U.S. and British governments. During the war the business classes of Europe were either supporting the Nazis, getting their banks and factories bombed into oblivion or they fled Europe with all the money they could carry. On the other hand, socialists, communists and anarchists had high credibility because they were the leaders of the Resistance to Nazi occupation. In order to prevent leftists from coming to power in western Europe, it was crucial to U.S. and British elites to get the business classes back into power. This required international institutions that would promote capitalist policies and strengthen the power of the corporate sector.

The World Bank focused on making loans to governments in order to rebuild railroads, highways, bridges, ports and other "infrastructure", i.e., the parts of the economy that are not profitable for private companies to build so they are left to the public sector (the taxpayers). After an initial focus on western Europe the World Bank shifted its lending toward the third world.

<snip>

The unwritten goal of the IMF and World Bank was to integrate the elites of all countries into the capitalist world system of rewards and punishments. The billions of dollars controlled by the IMF and World Bank have helped to create greater allegiance of national elites to the elites of other countries than they have to their own national majorities. When the World Bank and IMF lend money to debtor countries the money comes with strings attached. The policy prescriptions are usually referred to as "structural adjustment" and they require that debtor governments open their economies up to penetration by foreign corporations, allowing them access to the workers and natural resources of the country at bargain basement prices.. Other policies imposed under structural adjustment include: allowing foreign corporations to repatriate profits, balancing the government budget (often by cutting social spending), selling off publicly owned assets ("privatization&quot and devaluing the currency."

http://www.globalexchange.org/resources/wbimf/origins


At the time these organizations were created, they were effective Tools-of-War.
They should have been dismantled in the 60s, or at least restructured to bring them under the control of governments and accountability to The People.
Trying to blame FDR for the out-of-control monsters that these organizations have become is not sound reasoning.
SEE: Historian's fallacy
SEE: Fallacy of the single cause
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
13. Anonymous have been shouting against the TPP for months and months.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:42 PM
Dec 2012

And anti-TPP protesters were just attacked by cops this week in New Zealand. Article on that in Occupy Underground.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
15. Chairman Harper is trying to ram through a similar agreement
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
Dec 2012

with China, giving them unprecedented powers to take over Canada. They will be allowed to hold court hearings in private and out of the country over provincial and municipal decisions that *could* affect their profits.

These bastards are relentless.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. K&R for the latest shit sandwich we're all supposed to take a big bite of with a big smile.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

All because he has a 'D' after his name.

We will have a chance to pressure Congress to reject this later, however.

Initech

(106,449 posts)
23. The Koch Roaches won't be satisfhied until they're supreme overlords of the universe.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:37 AM
Dec 2012

They and the rest of these billionaire terrorists should be in federal prison for their crimes - this is getting fucking scary out there, and I'm afraid we're being played for chumps.

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