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CitizenZero

(604 posts) Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:06 PM Mar 12

An Opposition Government

I posted this last July. It was mocked by some and removed for being unrealistic or extreme. It is really that Trump Musk is extreme. Extreme circumstances sometimes require extreme responses. What do you think of this now? Still too extreme, or is there some merit?

Opposing Another Trump Regime

We need to set up an Opposition Government now to prepare for the possibility of another term of the Trump Regime.

If Trump gets back in power, the Constitution will be suspended and people will be rounded up and put into camps. No Freedom of Speech, No Freedom of Press, No Freedom of Association. Media figures will be arrested and Trump's political enemies will be tried by Military Tribunals (Trump has already tweeted that he will try Liz Cheney for Treason with a Military Tribunal). I think that Trump will suspend elections and will name himself President-for-Life.

This would be illegal and unconstitutional and we would be entitled to set up a Democratic Government in Opposition- an Alternative Government. The same way that the Brits have an opposition government in waiting. This Opposition Government could be based in States that are controlled by Democratic Governors- California, Illinois, New York, and others.

We need to have our own President, General and Military. I propose Barak Obama to be President and Commander-in-Chief, and General Mark Milley to be under him in charge of our Military. These people are loyal to our Constitution and opposed to Trump and MAGA Fascism.

We must plan to oppose a Trump Fascist Regime now before it happens. We can not wait until November 6th to wake up in the morning and find out that Trump has won the next election like he did in 2016. We must not be shocked or taken by surprise. We must plan now and we must be prepared. Civil and Military Resistance might be necessary. If Trump gets control of the Federal Military and Law Enforcement apparatus these instruments will be used to put an anti-democratic Fascist Regime in effect. We must be prepared to oppose such a dire situation.

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An Opposition Government (Original Post) CitizenZero Mar 12 OP

that's a bit far, but go - to dems for various topics might have some merit, like a shadow cabinet msongs Mar 12 #1

A Reasonable Response CitizenZero Mar 12 #2

I've heard people say that the Democrats should have been setting up the apparatus after Nov. 6 Seeking Serenity Mar 12 #3

End Game CitizenZero Mar 12 #4

We've got to do something wendyb-NC Mar 12 #5

Yes CitizenZero Mar 12 #6

That's not radical enough JustAnotherGen Mar 12 #7

I Would Go Further Now As Well CitizenZero Thursday #8

msongs

(70,842 posts)

1. that's a bit far, but go - to dems for various topics might have some merit, like a shadow cabinet

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:12 PM

Mar 12

as in the UK but not an actual government in waiting in a formal sense.

CitizenZero

(604 posts)

2. A Reasonable Response

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:14 PM

Mar 12

A shadow cabinet would be a good response. Politics as usual will not work.

Seeking Serenity

(3,146 posts)

3. I've heard people say that the Democrats should have been setting up the apparatus after Nov. 6

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:16 PM

Mar 12

For a true, legitimate government, especially when the federal bureaucracy who are loyal to our democracy were still in office.

A minority, "We have to save the liberal world order" government.

CitizenZero

(604 posts)

4. End Game

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:23 PM

Mar 12

If you still think what I describe in the OP is not realistic, I would disagree. I do think that it is the end game of the Trump Musk Regime. The MAGA Fascist Plan/Project 2025 is intended to end in complete fascist takeover and the end of our democracy. So we are not completely there yet, but that is where we are headed. We must take what is perhaps radical action to stop this fascist regime. I did not anticipate the Musk/Billionaire/Tech Bro/Oligarch aspect last July, but that started to become clearer during the election when Musk spent all of that money to buy the presidency for Trump. When Musk did his "sieg heil" during the inauguration, the picture was complete. We have to take serious and radical action now before it becomes too late.

wendyb-NC

(4,136 posts)

5. We've got to do something

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:31 PM

Mar 12

CitizenZero

(604 posts)

6. Yes

Reply to wendyb-NC (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:36 PM

Mar 12

Business as usual does not work. This is sort of like a Cold War, but it is domestic. We have to start treating it that way and prepare for any escalations that might arise. Trump and MAGA 2025 have not yet even mobilized the military. That is probably their big final move as an end game. Check out Malcom Nance on the possibility of Trump invading Canada like Putin invaded Ukraine. Nance does not believe all military would go along with any such illegal orders. The domestic Cold War could turn into a hot Civil War. I hope that it does not happen, but realistically we must be prepared. An Opposition Government might be necessary.

JustAnotherGen

(34,587 posts)

7. That's not radical enough

Reply to CitizenZero (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:53 PM

Mar 12

For me.

CitizenZero

(604 posts)

8. I Would Go Further Now As Well

Reply to JustAnotherGen (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:34 PM

Thursday

I am open to suggestions. What do you suggest we do to stop Trump Musk and MAGA? I would like to hear some ideas.

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