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Midnight Writer

(23,500 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:17 PM Thursday

Two questions. First, how many times have the Republicans "shut down" the government?

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Second, how many elections did it cost them?

My belief is that a screwed-up economy or screwed-up government services gets pinned on the party in charge, regardless of who is actually responsible.

It is very early in this cycle. We know that many voters have short memories, don't pay attention to the process (unlike DUers, who watch every move), and have a shaky conception about the cause and effect of economic problems. It is still over 20 months until midterms. By then we will have moved on through dozens of crises and distractions.

Right now, Trump is very publicly screwing the economy with his incoherent and capricious policy announcements. A government shutdown would be seen by most voters as a continuation of his screw-ups. I doubt that a government shutdown, under these circumstances, would be a big election factor. Voters will largely blame the Trump-Elon axis and vote for change if their economic and political circumstances are dire on election day. They will not remember, if the past is a guide, the specifics of how we got in trouble. They won't care who voted for what bill. They will just blame the people who are very publicly in charge and unstable.

We have power. We need to use it.

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Two questions. First, how many times have the Republicans "shut down" the government? (Original Post) Midnight Writer Thursday OP
The real issue is the corporate media SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #1
They can try to spin it on the Democrats. haele Thursday #5
Assuming we even have elections biophile Thursday #2
The real worry, in my opinion. Midnight Writer Thursday #8
3rd question dweller Thursday #3
Dunno but tfg was frantic to get it passed under Joe so shut down wouldn't be on him SheltieLover Thursday #4
There is a wiki page for that! progressoid Thursday #6
Thank you. Midnight Writer Thursday #7
It's called courage HereForTheParty Thursday #9

SocialDemocrat61

(3,798 posts)
1. The real issue is the corporate media
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:19 PM
Thursday

Will they do the right thing and hold republicans accountable or will they spin it to blame democrats?

haele

(14,037 posts)
5. They can try to spin it on the Democrats.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:36 PM
Thursday
Try is the operative word there.
We're barely 40 days into this Administration, and it's not like MAGA and the Media didn't help the GOP buy everything.
Why should we help them hurt the American Population?
If asked by the Media why we won't try to rein in the GOP excesses, ask back - isn't this what you wanted?
You called us unqualified, you called us "out of touch", you called us elitist snobs...you wouldn't even talk to us honestly about our policies, you carried the GOP talking points and smeared us with their rhetoric.
You didn't want to talk to Democrats other than to laugh at us and make Gotcha points. Now you want us to rescue y'all from the greedy monsters you partied with and gushed over.

biophile

(658 posts)
2. Assuming we even have elections
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:21 PM
Thursday

Because if they are counting on no elections or Putin type elections, then they have less to fear.

dweller

(26,007 posts)
3. 3rd question
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:21 PM
Thursday

What’s the earliest in a new pResident’s term has a shutdown occurred ?
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SheltieLover

(64,479 posts)
4. Dunno but tfg was frantic to get it passed under Joe so shut down wouldn't be on him
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:36 PM
Thursday

Shut it down!!!

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