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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****BREAKING NEWS**** China Halts Critical Exports as Trade War Intensifies
Shipments of the magnets, essential for assembling everything from cars and drones to robots and missiles, have been halted at many Chinese ports while the Chinese government drafts a new regulatory system. Once in place, the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.
The official crackdown is part of Chinas retaliation for President Trumps sharp increase in tariffs that started on April 2.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/business/china-rare-earths-exports.html


Biophilic
(5,510 posts)dchill
(41,939 posts)PatSeg
(50,075 posts)All this winning has been absolutely exhausting.
Swede
(35,931 posts)
Dave Bowman
(4,964 posts)usaf-vet
(7,445 posts)The MAGA Cultists will have to spend more for the same in their two favorite shopping destinations. Or....what?
BComplex
(9,369 posts)THAT is when we will see donald exiting stage left. The republicans are owned by the oligarchs, and they will finally stop their loyalty to donald/maga.
OrlandoDem2
(2,706 posts)Go, China, go!
walkingman
(9,071 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(100,863 posts)
birdographer
(2,937 posts)I wonder if anything at all will get republicans to finally stop toadying to him. He is wrong, he knows he is wrong but is too narcissistic to admit it, and those republicans know he is wrong. MAGAts? Not so much. He is their cult leader and can do no wrong.
Attilatheblond
(5,626 posts)He hates us all. We turned him out in 2020 & he will NEVER forgive that. He told us he would get retribution, but nothing is enough to fill his need. He is only happy when he is hurting others, but his glee is short lived and he has to keep hurting people to get his high. He's a misery junky and that's why the fascist business leaders bought the office for him; he will do anything to anybody without remorse or even a second's hesitation. If he changes his mind, it's because he thought up a new way to hurt people.
He is criminally insane and a danger to the entire world.
Sadly, it's likely most of his cabinet are grifting too, so going the 25th route seems unlikely to me. They don't care about nation or people, so long as they get lots of money to cushion themselves from the misery. They all gave up on the US or none of them would have taken positions of authority and ass kissing they knew they were not capable of doing. They, like the insane criminal, are just there to follow orders and steal what they can personally.
Impeachment? Well, maybe GOP on the Hill might try it, but it's likely there would be blood shed because MAGA Nazis just want to destroy everything.
We are paying a steep price for our society's failure to really deal with mental health and real education.
slightlv
(5,319 posts)He should be judged as criminally insane. Mere Malignant Narcissism isn't enough to describe his actions. It is criminally insane to make the entire world hate your country just so you can get your rocks off on the pain it's causing everybody. It's also criminally insane to sell out the top secrets of your own country to the highest bidder, just to put more money into your pocket, and more retribution towards the people who didn't want you as their president... first, or ever again. If it's not criminally insane, it ought to be!
MichMan
(14,817 posts)paleotn
(20,249 posts)MichMan
(14,817 posts)Another pandemic would qualify as "anything"
Covid caused him to lose the 2020 election.
stillcool
(33,581 posts)gleefully, which he easily could have avoided. China had nothing to do with the way Donald treats the American people during a pandemic
dpibel
(3,577 posts)Back to form, after a couple weak efforts.
paleotn
(20,249 posts)Pandemics are acts of God, Gia or whatever. No one really has control over that. How we manage the curveballs mom nature throws at us is in our control. China did what they could but it wasnt enough. Our handling of that escape was awful.
MichMan
(14,817 posts)Even accidently from bats.
EnergizedLib
(2,480 posts)We can recover from a recession sooner than we can recover from Krasnov and his cults nonsense.
kkmarie
(122 posts)Even if it's China. These fools won't wake up until it hurts them personally and I mean really hurt them. Krasnov will continue to say this is all about maga. The Russian regime in DC has pretty much told us to just shut up and take it.
They are bound to figure it out, that he's not helping them or our country. Okay not all of them. Maybe some will.
kimbutgar
(24,794 posts)A shit about them. And the only person he cares about is himself.
Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)turn away from him, and one that we can claw ourselves back from.
The worst thing would be a gradual, start and stop decline. We'd be the frogs in the boiling water, and it would be beyond repair by the time we could do anything about it.
Godspeed, China.
MichMan
(14,817 posts)Having a lot of people in poverty and homeless would get us there.
Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)after a much longer time in office.
The steeper the decline now, the sooner he goes, and the less damage he does. The quicker we can pull ourselves back from it, the less poverty and homelessness we need to fix.
The longer he's in office, all bets are off.
slightlv
(5,319 posts)though gods, I hate even the thought of the pain it will serve up to the rest of us who don't deserve it. But... magas won't know any of it... at least, the specifics which you mention in your reply... if trump changes the reporting standards to what I've been reading over the past few days. Leave out the government stats, and you only get a portion of the picture... not nearly enough when the hard damage is being done to government employees by trumps government. Fox isn't going to tell the magats that trump changed the reporting requirements, and I don't believe they'd understand or even care. As long as it doesn't hit them directly, they're good to keep going for trump. Thing is, the longer it does keep going, the more of them feel the pain - both the rich and poor magas.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,863 posts)Trump said nations are, "kissing his a-- " to get the tariffs removed and that Xi, "panicked". How did he expect Xi to respond?
This is an inspirational thread for you!
Fight forwardly for your cause!!
vsrazdem
(2,193 posts)The corporations like Honeywell, Boeing and anyone that needs magnets or semiconductors are not going to be able to continue production. This is going to hurt their bottom line. That is when you will see results - when it hits THEIR pocketbook.
Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)usonian
(17,035 posts)thought crime
(126 posts)BoRaGard
(4,933 posts)and the world
ToxMarz
(2,345 posts)It's the only way to deal with him. Give him an inch, he'll ramp up 1000x. Glad I don't need any magnets right now.
twodogsbarking
(13,295 posts)Anyone with a brain.
thought crime
(126 posts)live love laugh
(15,147 posts)surfered
(6,067 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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usonian
(17,035 posts)You might have to work for a living!!!
live love laugh
(15,147 posts)
paleotn
(20,249 posts)he'd be selling high mileage used cars at a tote the note lot.
Joinfortmill
(17,777 posts)bluestarone
(19,510 posts)No, dummies it's your leader!!
slightlv
(5,319 posts)more countries start following China's example. trump... nor anyone inside or outside his admin... can hope to have everything America needs manufactured in America in any timeframe. Some things are just not possible. And the more he screws around with Ukraine, I think more the NATO countries are going to be inclined to break away from trump and America. If you can't count on a friend being a friend in a war, then they're an enemy by default. Each of these countries no doubt exports something the US needs and can't make on it's own due to resources or materials... not to count labor costs. And trump will never increase the minimum wage. He spent a hell of a long time last campaign talking about cap on "maximum wage" and no minimum wage. I remember because it incensed me so much that America's workers were being dissed like that, and no one was making a hoopla about it. But then, every other word out of his mouth is a scandal, so I guess what can you say? Once we start having fewer and fewer countries unwilling to trade with us, cutting off whole categories of goods and/or services, and creating alternate trading sources and routes for themselves, it will take us forever to re-establish those trading partners. And why would they be in any kind of a hurry? American voters have shown them they'll take the worst four years any president ever served, and still elect him AGAIN, over a sedate, secure, statesman like Biden. The best thing that could happen in this country is another 40 years in the desert for the republicans. I think only then could other countries step out and tentatively trust in America again. That's probably putting more of a human face on trading with countries than necessary, but that's how I look at it.
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Bluetus
(920 posts)Gee, I wonder who has the upper hand in this game.
Trump should demand that China behave -- or else we'll let our army of vulture capitalists and hedge fund market manipulators loose on them.
InstantGratification
(326 posts)So he can justify making a play for Greenland's (or someone else's) resources.
Attilatheblond
(5,626 posts)slightlv
(5,319 posts)many countries have now been found to have the rare earth minerals, and other necessary resources. If this was trump's thinking, I believe it will put the whole world on a pre-war footing with America. NO country will peacefully allow another country to invade and strip them of their resources. Only trump right now is stripping this country of the resources it needs - government workers and immigrants. Wait until other countries decide to sanction us.
Demovictory9
(35,300 posts)blue-wave
(4,591 posts)Go figure. More destruction of a system, while not perfect, was moving along OK. This is absolute madness.
Sneederbunk
(16,033 posts)TSF has no idea.
FakeNoose
(37,118 posts)I may eventually buy a 2nd hand USED CAR, but not while Chump is in the White House.
paleotn
(20,249 posts)And that was under duress. Better half fell in love with a particular Subaru model and wanted new. I came along kicking and screaming.
CanonRay
(15,188 posts)people to take them off their hands.
If they can't build them without rare earth materials?
CanonRay
(15,188 posts)SunSeeker
(55,434 posts)And Trump has essentially declared war on China, so all bets are off.
Trump did it without even thinking through the repercussions, and he made zero contingency plans. Fucking idiot.
C Moon
(12,795 posts)Wonder Why
(5,469 posts)lostnfound
(16,914 posts)Tbear
(624 posts)the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.
flvegan
(64,891 posts)MichMan
(14,817 posts)China imports a lot of food from the US, do they not?
Maybe we should cut off all shipments
stillcool
(33,581 posts)Aerospace products and parts: $6.8 billion
Basic chemicals: $6.5 billion
Coal and petroleum gases: $1.1 billion
Communications and service industry machinery: $1.3 billion
Computer equipment: $1.8 billion
Electrical equipment: $1.3 billion
Electrical equipment and components: $1.7 billion
Engines and turbines: $1.4 billion
Fruits and tree nuts: $1.1 billion
General purpose machinery: $2.6 billion
Industrial machinery: $5 billion
Marine products: $1 billion
Meat products: $4.5 billion
Medical equipment and supplies: $3.6 billion
Miscellaneous crops: $2.4 billion
Miscellaneous fabricated metal products: $1.6 billion
Miscellaneous manufactured commodities: $2.1 billion
Motor vehicle parts: $1.7 billion
Motor vehicles: $6.1 billion
Navigational and measurement instruments: $6.8 billion
Non-ferrous metal products: $1.8 billion
Oil and gas: $17.6 billion
Oilseeds and grains: $18.5 billion
Other: $15.9 billion
Pharmaceutical products and medicines: $11.3 billion
Plastic products: $1.4 billion
Pulp and paperboard mill products: $2.1 billion
Resins and synthetic fibres: $5.5 billion
Scrap products: $2.4 billion
Semiconductors and components: $6.8 billion
Soaps, cleaning agents and toiletries: $1.3 billion
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/what-does-china-import-from-us-that-could-take-a-hit-in-tariff-war/ar-AA1CD8Sv?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Fruits and tree nuts: $1.1 billion
Meat products: $4.5 billion
Miscellaneous crops: $2.4 billion
Oilseeds and grains: $18.5 billion
stillcool
(33,581 posts)China will not be buying anything from this country, and this country manufactures and sells so little. I don't know how that hurts anyone but the United States.
dpibel
(3,577 posts)And what percentage of the country's total consumption do those bigly numbers represent?
Are we talking starvation or inconvenience?
In any case, your concern for the well-being of China is truly heartwarming.
Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)We are all people. There is no reason for ANY of us to suffer except for the whims of an idiot.
I don't see them as the enemy. We started this.
dpibel
(3,577 posts)Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)BidenRocks
(1,311 posts)China buys a wide variety of products from the United States. The top items are:
Used to buy! and were
Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)louis-t
(24,220 posts)This is fucked up.
Meowmee
(8,529 posts)D_Master81
(2,004 posts)What if they start selling off our debt? The bond market will get rocked.
madville
(7,627 posts)They own about 2% of our debt and theyd have to sell it for a loss to dump it.
Martin Eden
(14,111 posts)So much winning!
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,863 posts)vapor2
(2,104 posts)THEY COULD TELL TRUMP THE TRUTH, THEY COULD STOP THIS INSANITY
Maru Kitteh
(29,973 posts)I have a real fear we will hear yet again how we need to unite our country, reach across the aisle, and other versions of we agree to ZERO accountability for the treasonous lick-spittle that participated in this.
Jit423
(1,189 posts)Scrivener7
(55,278 posts)roamer65
(37,547 posts)
Hassler
(4,221 posts)LS_Editor
(912 posts)And he's going to bankruptcy us all.
How do you bankrupt casinos? Be Donald Trump.
Martin68
(25,399 posts)BadGimp
(4,084 posts)Lord knows this outcome was COMPLETELY unforeseeable, right?
PortTack
(35,511 posts)And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
eppur_se_muova
(38,829 posts)except, of course, anyone capable of rational thought, and reasonably well informed.
Torchlight
(4,516 posts)Beijing plays the long game, trump plays golf.