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augyboston

(327 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:37 AM 22 hrs ago

I love reading about MAGATS who are disappointed and surprised that tRump 2.0 is hurting them.

Not to say that tRump 2.0 isn't worse than tRump 1.0 because he's now surrounded by sycophants, has Project 2025 as his blueprint and the principles (or lack thereof) of Curis Yarvin to guide him.

Still, to say you voted for tRump after all that went down during his first term because you wanted more of the same is absolutely fucking insane.

The only silver lining to what's going on is that many of these MAGATS are going down with the rest of us.

Their pain brings me such fucking joy!

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I love reading about MAGATS who are disappointed and surprised that tRump 2.0 is hurting them. (Original Post) augyboston 22 hrs ago OP
I can't take any joy in what is also harming me and mine etc. Meowmee 22 hrs ago #1
But have you met one in real life? Woodwizard 21 hrs ago #2
The ones I work with are displacedvermoter 21 hrs ago #4
They rationlize every evil act in their own bubble mdbl 19 hrs ago #11
They seem to always be pissed about something. Most times what their pissed about is self inflicted. paleotn 19 hrs ago #14
Every BeerBarrelPolka 21 hrs ago #5
The business types being hurt financially by Trump's tariffs and those affected by his cuts to government sop 21 hrs ago #7
Even when it inflicts pain on them. It's bizarre. I guess cults are like that. paleotn 19 hrs ago #16
Indeed BeerBarrelPolka 17 hrs ago #21
Message auto-removed Name removed 21 hrs ago #3
Hello Emile 21 hrs ago #6
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #8
The Maggot Cult is not disappointed. tavernier 21 hrs ago #9
Yes, the base is a cult and they'll go down with the ship but MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #10
And yet, I bet the vast majority of them Bettie 19 hrs ago #12
Get used to it. Takket 19 hrs ago #13
Ashamed Blue Full Moon 19 hrs ago #15
Their silence is revealing blubunyip 18 hrs ago #18
I have noticed on FB Blue Full Moon 18 hrs ago #20
Fighting fascism can be a form of atonement blubunyip 17 hrs ago #22
I honestly wish I could share in your joy. Paladin 19 hrs ago #17
So how do people feel biocube 18 hrs ago #19
I feel they are confused blubunyip 16 hrs ago #23
I do tend to filter out media that is unfriendly towards Democrats. ShazzieB 16 hrs ago #24
I'm loving it. republianmushroom 15 hrs ago #25
Most of the Trump voters I know Johonny 15 hrs ago #26
The MAGA masochists Blue Owl 14 hrs ago #27

Meowmee

(8,758 posts)
1. I can't take any joy in what is also harming me and mine etc.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:40 AM
22 hrs ago

And so many others who didn't vote for this. When he is gone for good I will be relieved and happy.

Woodwizard

(1,166 posts)
2. But have you met one in real life?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:56 AM
21 hrs ago

I see less trump flags but the magas I know are not saying they regret trump.

displacedvermoter

(3,693 posts)
4. The ones I work with are
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:17 AM
21 hrs ago

stupid racists and misogynists (retired cop, a former corrections officer, and a self loathing veteran) and they chuckle among themselves, still, about Hillary Clinton and BLM and how pissed off the liberals are. Unless and until something really bad happens to them -- they all deny that VA benefits will be cut as "they would never do that" -- they are fine with it all.

They do have the good sense not to bring any of this up too loudly in front of me. I would have no problem calling them out for their stupidity and ignorance.

But no, they aren't regretting anything I can see.

paleotn

(20,301 posts)
14. They seem to always be pissed about something. Most times what their pissed about is self inflicted.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:42 AM
19 hrs ago

The ones I've known are generally an assholy bunch who go out of their way to be less than pleasant. They have this strange idea that the world owes them a standard of living simply because they're white and male. They despise DEI, since consciously or unconsciously they view it as additional competition for what they think they're owed due to their race and gender. But their masculinity is extremely fragile for a number of reasons, and they find crutches in guns, pickup trucks they can't possibly afford, fishing boats with ginormous motors they can't possibly afford and so on.

They find themselves in tough financial straits partially due to the fact they slept through much of high school. I remember. I was there. They had no real ambition beyond that, refused to learn life's lessons, made the same dumb mistakes over and over, and take no personal responsibility. Why should they? Being white and male should take care of all that for them. No physical work or cognitive effort required. Oh, but they're quick to point who they perceive as being lazy, yet have rarely put in a decent days work in their lives. Their health is as much a shambles as their finances, since they smoked a pack or more a day for 30+ years and have eaten a diet made up of mostly crap all that time. Yet they blame everyone and everything else for their own failures in initiative and good sense.

But Donny is their savior! He'll make things right and put them back on top like their white, male fathers and grandfathers! The way the world should be in their minds. But no, they'll continue to wallow in self inflicted pain and self pity. And die young. The fate of many old high school compadres and extended family members I've known who were swallowed by the orange cult. A pathetic bunch. Sure, in some ways life, particularly economics, was tougher for us than our parents. But who ever said life owed us a damn thing?

sop

(13,842 posts)
7. The business types being hurt financially by Trump's tariffs and those affected by his cuts to government
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:32 AM
21 hrs ago

agencies are unhappy, but they would probably vote for him again. The average MAGA approves of what Trump is doing to immigrants, academics, scientists and the rule of law.

paleotn

(20,301 posts)
16. Even when it inflicts pain on them. It's bizarre. I guess cults are like that.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:43 AM
19 hrs ago

Strange people.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,548 posts)
21. Indeed
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:14 AM
17 hrs ago

My ex wife is one of them. She blames the "blacks and the immigrants" and trump is making it right. That's her rallying cry.

Response to augyboston (Original post)

Response to Emile (Reply #6)

tavernier

(13,648 posts)
9. The Maggot Cult is not disappointed.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:49 AM
21 hrs ago

They were thrilled when they dropped like flies during Covid, even hospitalized and in the last stages, refusing any treatment other than Dopey’s Ivermectin. There is no antidote for brainwashing, not even facts or truth. I have spoken to Maggots who proclaim that Rump was never tried and convicted, and had they physically been in the court room, their brains would not have been able to register that reality.

I do find some relief hearing about the folks who were not maggots or trumpies but who bought into the sheer bullshit spewed by the party, for whatever reason, and now are plagued with anger or regret. Good. Next time try to remember that your vote can be as deadly as a bullet or a bomb, and do some research before pulling the trigger.

MadameButterfly

(2,891 posts)
10. Yes, the base is a cult and they'll go down with the ship but
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 08:36 AM
20 hrs ago

he would not have won without the independent and low information voters, the ones who go back and forth between parties from one presidential election to the next. The ones who just wanted cheaper eggs. Those are the people reflected in the changing polls right now.

I find it depressing how much support Trump still has give he is going full Hitler on us. But it is and always has been those fickle voters in the middle who decide our fate. We need to get un-mad somehow and woo them to our side. Sympathize with their distress rather than ridiculing them (and I want to do that as much as anyone). Democracy depends on it.

I'm not saying a good rant in private, and maybe here on DU, isn't a catharsis we need. But we need to do this to release the anger so that out in the world we can welcome them to our movement.

Bettie

(18,188 posts)
12. And yet, I bet the vast majority of them
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:15 AM
19 hrs ago

would vote for him again tomorrow if they could.

No sympathy for those who voted for this. He told them what he was going to do and they loved the idea of how much he'd "own the libs" and harm people they hate.

Nope, still can't muster up even a bit of sympathy for them.

Those who voted for Harris? I have sympathy, empathy, and shared suffering. Yeah, we're going to have a bad run here, but at least we didn't vote for this fuckery.

Takket

(22,942 posts)
13. Get used to it.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:19 AM
19 hrs ago

None of the shit he’s doing has even filtered down to our everyday yet. Stores China stock drying up. Inflation. Unemployment. All to come on the next few months.

blubunyip

(116 posts)
18. Their silence is revealing
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 10:07 AM
18 hrs ago

Shame and embarrassment is out there in Magaland. But many will defend their vote even more out of secret shame.

Excellent video.

Blue Full Moon

(2,072 posts)
20. I have noticed on FB
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 10:12 AM
18 hrs ago

That I get more likes and supportive comments than attacks by MAGA. They do need to get over the ashamed part and help protest and contact the politicians to get rid of him and his sycophants.

blubunyip

(116 posts)
22. Fighting fascism can be a form of atonement
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:48 AM
17 hrs ago

I am not coming from a particularly religious place with that comment, but it expresses the thought in terms everybody understands. Positive action helps in recovery. Action can be a form of atonement, and atonement can be a form of healing. Making up for wrongdoing is healthy. Duh. But people forget about the rewards of right action. This is Confucian and Taoist philosophy, as well as religious and 12-step.

To Magas and Recovering tRump voters-- get over the shame and work for the common good. Fight Insanity with Sanity.

Paladin

(30,269 posts)
17. I honestly wish I could share in your joy.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:47 AM
19 hrs ago

The plain fact of the matter is that I utterly hate all the trump pimps who are now discovering the damage their brain-dead votes have done to this country. I wish nothing upon such people other than complete ruination by trump's insane policies. Fuck each and every one of them---old school friends and relatives very much included.

biocube

(50 posts)
19. So how do people feel
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 10:10 AM
18 hrs ago

about the people in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada that voted for Trump and to send Democratic women to the senate?
Or the people that voted for AOC and Trump which AOC reached out to? And what about the slow leakage of minority votes we've seen in the last 3 presidential elections?

Too many on DU completely filter out any media that criticizes Democrats campaigning from the left and uncritically accept the identitarian version of the Trump phenomena. Trump won Missouri by 18 points and the higher minimum wage/mandatory sick leave won by 8 points? Was that a point of emphasis in the presidential campaign? Nope.

Instead, Democrats go for the vote of the 8 anti-Trump people on the National Review and brag about the endorsement of corporate CEOs when a lot of Americans care less than zero who they want for president.

blubunyip

(116 posts)
23. I feel they are confused
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 12:06 PM
16 hrs ago

--Basically they are populists who gravely underestimated the consequences of re-electing tRump. They bought the hype, feeling they had nowhere else to go. It would help a lot if we did not have a ruthless binary, winner take-all election system. Then people could actually vote their conscience more. For example, the far left (or whatever you want to call Democratic Socialists) has NEVER been represented in American government. I feel as disenfranchised as any Maga. Especially since the tRump henchmen are trying to deny Democratic votes everywhere.

As for the higher minimum wage/sick leave vote. tRump promised all this and more. The Magic Kingdom was coming. The King was going to take care of us working class peasants. Desperation made people buy that. I am very sympathetic to the non-rich who voted tRump. I have nothing but loathing for the rich and variously privileged (we all know who they are) who put him in office.

"A lot of Americans care less than zero who they want for president"-- that is a BIG problemo.


ShazzieB

(20,376 posts)
24. I do tend to filter out media that is unfriendly towards Democrats.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 12:33 PM
16 hrs ago

Why? Because I simply don't have time for that nonsense. There are only 24 hours in each day, and I'd rather spend them on other things. I already know that most Repubs, MAGA or not, don't support most of the things I support, and that tells me who I need to vote for.

To me, voting for Schlump for potus while also voting for a Democratic candidate for either House of Congress screams "I am a low information voter who has no idea how politics actually work in this day and age!" It tells me that this is a person whose votes are based on emotion and instinct rather than a real understanding of what each party stands for or how things work in Washington.

Could Democrats do a better job of getting our message out to low information voters? Absolutely, and I hope that is emphasized more in both 2026 and 2028. We need to be clearer and more direct in our messaging about things we support that we know know people care about. It's hard to counteract brainwashing, but Dems really need to try.

Johonny

(23,440 posts)
26. Most of the Trump voters I know
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 01:33 PM
15 hrs ago

Have yet to be hurt and see the shitshow as "going to work itself out" or amusing.

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