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marmar

(78,435 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:28 AM 17 hrs ago

One more way America hates kids


My European trip reminded me of one more way America hates kids
I had to travel overseas to find a community that accepted my toddler

By Kelly Lawler
Published April 27, 2025 10:00AM (EDT)


(Salon) “Car seat or booster?”

When the kind, patient English-speaking taxi dispatcher outside Berlin Brandenberg Airport asked me this, I was shocked into momentary silence. Was he offering what I thought he was?

“A car seat,” I said, daring to hope. A minute or so later a large van pulled up, with an age-appropriate car seat ready to go for my 3-year-old daughter, Evie, who was as giddy to see it as I was. It was simple to buckle us all in and head to our hotel, no need for me to clamber into the cab and bump my head on the ceiling while installing the awkward, difficult and outrageously expensive travel seat currently strapped to my back in a giant carrying case. The process can take up to five minutes, requires both the strength of a dozen bodybuilders to pull the seat belt tight enough and a great deal of patience, which I no longer possessed. It was Day 12 of a 16-day trip to Europe for my Philadelphia-based, American family, and suffice to say I was exhausted. This beautiful, wonderful taxi dispatcher had taken a literal load off my back.

....(snip)....

By toddler standards, I doubt she could have had a better day. By parenting standards, I couldn’t have had a better experience either. Because just 24 hours into our stay in Berlin, my daughter had already become part of a community. I’m still searching for that sense of belonging back home.

"Children should be seen and not heard"

Any parent who walks through American society with tiny humans in tow can tell you that children are simply not welcome in public here. It’s something you don’t notice until you look for it, or until you have to return an Amazon package and everyone else in line at the UPS store is dead silent and radiating annoyance while your kid can’t stop chattering away. And it’s not just vibes I’m talking about. It’s blatant anti-child policies and aggressive adults in public spaces: breweries and restaurants that post “kid-free” notices during the childcare-strapped week between Christmas and New Years; malls that ban teenagers during after school hours; or even wedding invite after wedding invite that asks parents to exclude their children from a family celebration.

....(snip)....

American society, especially the current political ruling class, claims to be “family first,” but we are a culture that is deeply hostile to children and families. We are one of the only developed countries lacking a federal paid family leave policy, and the price of childcare and other cost-of-living essentials is skyrocketing. There is a pervasive, unspoken agreement in our country that children should be seen and not heard, and actually better off not seen, either. Don’t bring your kids out to dinner. Don’t bring them when you run errands. Don’t bring them to the festival or party or any of the best parts of life. And as a parent, it is demoralizing, exhausting and deeply saddening to feel this hatred. .....................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/04/27/america-hates-kids-europe-welcomes/




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Walleye

(39,803 posts)
1. In my job as a journalist, I saw so many troubled families and scared children. And hungry children.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:35 AM
17 hrs ago

Now a baby crying baby is music to my ears. I’m like, well that’s pretty healthy. I love it. I love seeing kids around. I hate what we’re doing. Children can also provide you with insights and knowledge. They are not just little annoyances like the way they are treated here in this country. We also have the same kind of attitude toward old people I think. Not exactly the same but similar.

spooky3

(37,387 posts)
2. I partly agree with the author, but there is other evidence that
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:42 AM
17 hrs ago

Society is hostile to or simply ignores child free people. Do you ever see a politician saying they promote policies that help “working singles” rather than “working families”? Are there tax breaks or workplace policies designed to ensure that neither having children or not is rewarded or not punished equitably? Do advertisements show child free people enjoying life (other than young, sexy, pretty people) or do they generally revolve around family relationships?

Phoenix61

(18,303 posts)
5. And my favorite, you don't mind working (pick a holiday) since you don't have kids places. nt
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:51 AM
17 hrs ago

Phoenix61

(18,303 posts)
4. As an ex-waitress let me tell you about those "No Children" signs in restaurants
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:49 AM
17 hrs ago

The throwing ketchup drenched French fries children. The playing tag around the tables children. The screaming “ I WANT A FUDGE SUNDAE!!!! children. The trying to order a beer with a fake ID sitting with their parents children. Those children have ruined it for the rest of them.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
6. America is one of the worst countries in which to raise children.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:57 AM
16 hrs ago

Between the high cost of everything, republicans ruining public education, school shootings, no paid parental leave from your job, lack of affordable medical care, permission by current powers that be to make vaccines “optional “, disdain for children in public places, etc. etc. Yet Republicans bawl at us women to have lots of children. I swear, it was better 20 years ago when mine were young. We keep going backwards as a society.

Midnight Writer

(23,765 posts)
7. It is not just children. It is the way corporate America treats all of its customers.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 01:11 PM
15 hrs ago

Every service to the customer is reduced.

Every charge to the customer is inflated.

People are no longer valued by business. Giving good service to attract new customers and retain repeat customers is considered archaic. The days of "The customer is always right" are behind us.

The new paradigm for businesses losing customers is not to beef up service and value. It is to reduce service and lay-off employees.

They have armies of consultants spending every day concocting new schemes to squeeze more blood from the consumer.

Business is ow a one-way street, where the benefits of a transaction skew wildly toward the business, not the customer.

The difference in what you pay for a service or product and in what that service or product is actually worth is called "profit".

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