I get that it's a Nazi reference, but what papers are people required to carry around? A driver's license if you're driving, sure, but what is this even about?

They are harassing Americans on their way to work. I carry my US passport card everywhere in addition to my driver's license because of a-holes like this.

I cannot see how this is even legal. What ever happened to a requirement of probable cause for stopping people?

through. Lived in DC for three years and never carried anything except my driver license. WHO carries their passport with them everywhere? Geesh, this is beginning to sound like Russia.

unreasonable search and seizure.

It requires reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime based on specific objective facts. Cops tend to forget the crime element, as well as the objective facts, and detain for “investigation.”

The Supreme Court paved the way for fascism.

It's after the date for Real ID implementation. Some states issue driver's licenses to non-citizens.

Real ID was always about this sort of thing: "papers please," and denying the vote to large numbers of people.

It used to be part of the definition of the United States, that we didn't need permission to travel within our own borders. That was a Russian thing.

want to know who you are. Just saying you are John Fitzgerald Kennedy in Bangkok is really not going to get it. They want some kind of proof.

I like real-id but it has one major fault. If a person is using a stolen ID, in other words they assumed the name of a person who died many years ago and is the same age as they are. They can request the birth certificate of that person. They can then request the Social Security card by having the certified birth certificate and a bill with their address and name on it and get a real id.
It is probably fool proof for the honest population but for a spy or terrorist it does nothing.

"l'm told they were stopping people at this intersection and asking them for their papers."

Told by who? A reliable source or just rumors flying around? What kind of papers? The writer needs to give us a tad more. People are scared enough.

We have alot of Hispanic workers here in Louisiana and while i dont know their status, there is no news of arrests or detainments here

after people of color, says my betting self.

why do they look like terrorists, faces covered...etc? Oh that's right... they ARE terrorists.
Nevermind.

... country when dealing with general public?!?!

If they're going after cartels I could understand but people with babies and families don't want to make a hit on agents acting like they got some sense

That’s who.

... even they went nuts cause murdering people en masse isn't healthy for anyone

They are J-6 filth who have been recruited into the Trump Gestapo, NOT Federal law enforcement.

They're just standing there at the side of the road, with their stupid masks and "police" costume.

are actually legal any more.....so the put them in lower class areas because those people don't know that.

Sooo what the hell could this have been.............

They keep inching forward, bit by bit........

I'm no lawyer but those Law Guy videos that get posted I've heard him say that. Cops can't ask for your ID without announcing what law they think you may have violated or unless required by federal law, like getting on planes. If they are stopping every car these people should all should refuse to present their ID's or this could spread.

I do not know a single person who carries sufficient identification with them that proves that they are a citizen of the United States. My passport leaves my house when I take a vacation on a cruise line or a plane overseas. Otherwise it sits in my drawer. My birth certificate is Also in the same place and never leaves the house.

Other than that, most other people might regularly carry a Drivers License or state I D. that might be a Real ID. People aren't supposed to carry their Social Security card with them, and VA cards aren't RealID.
I'm a Military Retiree, but if I don't have my purse or wallet on me, like if I'm out on a local walk or up at the complex clubhouse to go swimming or play pool, I won't have my wallet on me. And if my house gets raided, I don't trust "Officers Anonymous" not to ignore my ID or purse and just take me in anyway for whatever reason they chose, claiming I was someone else and had no papers on me

If that’s true, then people who are not citizens cannot fly within the United States without a passport.

I have real ID, but technically it doesn’t prove anything. Other than that I am who I say I am in terms of identity.

Federal rules - you need to provide at the least a Social Security Card, Passport, Green Card or Work Visa as well as proof of current residency in the United States for at least one year

As RealID can also be issued by states for the Federal Government as part of their driver's license or state ID program, some states also require a birth certificate and proof of legal name change if the name on the birth certificate is different than on other documentation. This can be tricky for those who got married, adopted or otherwise might not have a recognized birth or marriage certificate to match a name change to.
Which is an inconsistency that means RealID cannot be used to verify someone under the new SAVE act.

States are free to issue drivers licenses/IDs to individuals who cannot prove all name changes since birth or legal residency.

So one might well be a person who didn't bother to go through the hassle of getting copies of all name change documents and be legally driving with a non-compliant driver's license and still be a legal resident of the US.

So my state issued driver's license is non-compliant with the RealID program. I never changed my name when I got married, so I've got no issue with Birth Certificate match if they pull some BS with an ID that meets the SAVE act, other than sheer outrage on how far into the fascist grave this country has fallen.

But I'll bet you don't carry your birth certificate with you - so if you are randomly stopped while driving the fact that you have a noncompliant driver's license means nothing other than that you have the right to drive . . . But I'm betting that ICE would use that against anyone with brown skin or an accent to haul them in.

ID. Thought it was a bunch of fuss over nothing. But I did it. Makes me wonder how long the Repugs have had this whole ID mess planned. Surely, they can't be that smart (especially Bushes).

And I brought a bill showing my address.

make a second trip to bring my first marriage divorce degree and my second marriage certificate (another surname change) plus two bills showing that I live where I live. Took two 60-miles rounds trips just to renew my driver license. But now I'm glad I've got the real ID.

… the Doge Boyz that will allow them to see a person’s voting history, who they contributed to,
what organizations they belong to, educational history, and all about their families. And if some-
thing comes up will they take the person into custody?

...what Gestapo does.

Random checkpoints, masks, lack of visible ID.

This what we see coming out of Russia.

... They don't have to show any identification.

Until those two things are stopped, we are falling straight down at very high speed.

Homegrown terrorists…

was against 'papers' to be carried. No national ID. That is what godless commies did.

Now.....

They've been after ID "to stop voter fraud" for many years.

One reason your SSAN card had not to be used for ID printed on it. I still have my original card.

the Republican Mantra was: Better Dead than Red........now look at them.....Red States, Red Ball Caps, following the leader of the former major RED nation....

That whole group was always saying that we had to watch out for all the: Pinko Commies.....

I moved to AZ from Canada in 65.

One of my father's coworkers at a company was a member of the Minute men. He showed my father some type of big gun he always carried in his car trunk, jsut in case the commies came,,

I ALMOST MOVED TO CANADA FROM COLORADO IN 67..........

I want to see their fucking papers!

during Trump's first term, his group of un-identifiable, battle dressed soldiers that grabbed people demonstrating in Oregon, and threw them in unmarked vans with no license plates........later thought to be extreme racist, Border Patrol agents brought up from the Mexico Border.....
No one knew who they were, where they came from, or what they were doing, or what happened to the people they threw in the vans and whisked away....It was like Trump's private Gestapo...or more realistically what a tyrant dictator like Putin does with demonstrators.......

Amway heirs???????

I guess Trump didn't think she did as good of a job of destroying public education in his first administration as Sec of Education...

Or, he could have more control over MRS WWE........

than most states according to migrantmutualaid.org. BUT I'd like to see some corroborating reports of an actual road block or a random stopping point.

If she posts it, she has the goods.

Evidence is in the OP.

Lose the masks, show the badges and a warrant, or get the fuck away from my car.

Lots of older garden style apartments up in that area which is over by Catholuc University. I am not surprised that they are doing this in that area.
They wear masks so you cannot identify them and attempt to press civil charges against them. They refuse to tell you thier names or which organization they are with. Once you are in that van you are screwed.

Those vans are the modern day trains that loaded up the Jews and the other undesirables and took them to the concentration camps. The officers need to be constantly reminded that "just following orders" didn't work fir the Nazis at Nuremberg. Sooner or later there will be a reckoning.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which includes the Border Patrol, is the largest law enforcement agency in the country. Their jurisdiction they claim spans 100 miles into the interior of the United States from any land or maritime border. Two-thirds of the U.S. population lives within this 100-mile border enforcement zone, including cities like Washington D.C., San Francisco CA, Chicago IL, New Orleans LA, Boston MA, & more.

In 1946, Congress quietly passed a statute giving U.S. Customs and Border Protection the authority to stop and search all vehicles within a “reasonable distance” from the border. Shortly thereafter, the agency defined that distance as 100 miles from all land borders and coastlines, thus crowning themselves kings of what is now known as the “100-mile zone,” an area in which nearly two-thirds of the U.S. population lives. That regulation, which effectively allows border officers to disregard key Fourth Amendment protections within that area, has remained in place ever since.


And since no Democratic congress or president ever sought to have it changed.. We get what we pay for.

and a border is defined to include any port of entry which means any international airport is included so really if you live in Kansas (or some place like that) they can't operate there.

They have been doing stuff like this for years, they will pull over Greyhoud busses and demand to see people's papers. However you are not required to show them your papers or whatever they think they need. You still have 4th ammendment rights and you can tell them that, of course they might try and detain you but if you respectfully put up enough of a stink they will move on. They know what they are doing only works if you give in to them and if you don't they don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Don't they have to have some kind of reasonable suspicion? This is so disgusting.

Unless there is an orange alert abduction, or a surprise check for people drinking and driving there has do be a valid reason to stop you and ask for your ID. Is this not a free country with laws?

How many people ride around with all the docs these fascists want to prove we have a right to exist here? I don't have a passport, do not carry birth certificate and marriage certificate to explain name change, and my driver's license expires in a few months, so I will get the new one required then.

This is more than unreasonable search, this is Nazi shit.

Don’t have to tell us? What if these are people who are not government officials and if they are, they must know it’s illegal. Time for Congress to get off the gravy train and pass laws to protect us so the courts can enforce our rights

IOW, convicted felons.

Maybe someone knows something different but ICE or any other federal agency, cannot just stop people at random and demand identification or proof of citizenship. It's a violation of 4th amendment...which applies even to undocumented immigrants.

first order of business if we ever again control majorities in Congress and the WH is to dissolve ICE or at the very least dramatically scale back their ever creeping authority. Really have reached the level of Geheime Staatspolizei and it's only a matter of time before they start killing people.

Guarantee them a fair trial? Why is ICE allowed to ignore the Constitution in the first place? And why aren't there lawyers out there challenging the warrantless kidnappings? Shouldn't DC cops be arresting these masked kidnappers?

DC is within 100 miles of the ocean, which counts as a border.

This is a violation of the 4th Amendment, I would think. Or does their crime trump following the Constitution?

Just like it was done in Massachusetts, we need to do it everywhere they show up and refuse to show their stupid faces!
😡 For everybody up thread saying this can't be legal I'm sorry but I think that ship has sailed. Apparently if they don't need a warrant and if they don't need to show ID then really it's just if they don't like the look of you or if you mouth off and they'll lock your ass up!

Is America great again yet? 🤬🤬🤬

Fat asses with US flag masks cosplaying with "police" vests.

I wonder why they are wearing masks.