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70sEraVet

(5,203 posts)
Fri May 9, 2025, 09:47 AM May 2025

It is looks like Dump reserves one type of insult for a specific group....

See if you can find what these people have in common.



I really didn't need more reasons to hate the man.

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It is looks like Dump reserves one type of insult for a specific group.... (Original Post) 70sEraVet May 2025 OP
Yeah. The Bell Curve (1994) underpants May 2025 #1
Yep- I remember when this book was the topic of discussion Redleg May 2025 #27
Herrnstein, the actual researcher, died before it was finished underpants May 2025 #28
Herrnstein was no angel. valleyrogue May 2025 #30
I didn't know that. underpants May 2025 #31
Herrnstein was peddling this filth long before Murray. valleyrogue May 2025 #32
I have been a bit sceptical of the "evolutionary psychology" field Redleg May 2025 #33
It ian' t a real science but is purely political valleyrogue May 2025 #34
I guess that is one way to frame it. Redleg May 2025 #35
45 knows "low IQ person" up close and personal Ritabert May 2025 #2
Every accusation BigMin28 May 2025 #8
"45" believes that is a reference to the 45th president...its his actual IQ!! (n/t) Moostache May 2025 #24
Yeah, that's been pretty obvious for a few years now...nt Wounded Bear May 2025 #3
Lol hildegaard28 May 2025 #4
just remember he is projecting RANDYWILDMAN May 2025 #5
AND accomplished, in ways that actually matter. eppur_se_muova May 2025 #7
Vote for a bigot - you are a bigot. Pretty simple to me. 617Blue May 2025 #6
Totally agree! markpkessinger May 2025 #22
Low values, low morals, low decency Trump should hang his head in shame. democrank May 2025 #9
he should, barbtries May 2025 #15
He'll call Pope Leo a low IQ person very soon - because the pope has Creole lineage dalton99a May 2025 #10
I don't know, judging by the list you've given whathehell May 2025 #20
He damn well better NOT!!! calimary May 2025 #21
In this life, you're as good as the respect you have for others. usonian May 2025 #11
I KNOW --- I KNOW THAT ONE --------- CHOOSE ME 3Hotdogs May 2025 #12
And Eric and Jr. have as high an IQ as their dad. republianmushroom May 2025 #13
the lowest IQ individual to inhabit the WH barbtries May 2025 #14
He DEFINITELY doesn't know.. one when he sees one.. dchill May 2025 #16
He is too stupid and too uneducated to understand that "IQ" is a nonsense... NNadir May 2025 #17
Spin Iamscrewed May 2025 #18
"Low IQ Person" is his personal racist euphemism. forgotmylogin May 2025 #19
As my mother would say... Bluejeans May 2025 #23
You just can't have a high IQ and consciously get into a pissing match with any of those three women, mjvpi May 2025 #25
trump is a racist who thinks that all minorities are beneath himi LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #26
Trump is an asshole. Joinfortmill May 2025 #29
Hmmmm, I Wonder Why?!!! Hideous Scum, remember his Obama complaints, too. Not surprised! electric_blue68 May 2025 #36
Al Green, Stephanie Rhul, and Mika Brzezinski are women of color? Ms. Toad May 2025 #37
You are right, Ms. Toad. 70sEraVet May 2025 #38

underpants

(194,584 posts)
1. Yeah. The Bell Curve (1994)
Fri May 9, 2025, 09:50 AM
May 2025

Scientific racist - the writer. This became a dog whistle from back then.

Redleg

(6,808 posts)
27. Yep- I remember when this book was the topic of discussion
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:20 PM
May 2025

It gave racists a "scientific" reason for their racism. As I recall, the American Psychological Association commissioned a taskforce to investigate this and they had a good number of criticisms for the book. First of all, there was no peer-review process. Second, the authors made some erroneous inferences based on their data in favoring the genetics explanation without due consideration of environmental and social impacts.

underpants

(194,584 posts)
28. Herrnstein, the actual researcher, died before it was finished
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:52 PM
May 2025

So Charles Murray just took his data and used it to back his preconceived result. Murray has made a lot of money as a speaker ever since.

It was not only not peer reviewed but when the data used was evaluated by several (really all of them) actual experts they couldn’t find anything or any way to come to what Murray included in the book.

valleyrogue

(2,524 posts)
30. Herrnstein was no angel.
Sat May 10, 2025, 01:26 AM
May 2025

He wrote a long article in 1971 for The Atlantic about "I.Q." which created a storm of controversy.

He was one of many in academia upset that minorities and especially women were gaining a foothold in academia thanks to affirmative action. This attitude lay at the root of the dubious popularity of the pseudoscience of "evolutionary psychology," then called "sociobiology."

Herrnstein taken to task: https://archive.scienceforthepeople.org/vol-4/v4n2/public-statement-herrnstein-controversy/

underpants

(194,584 posts)
31. I didn't know that.
Sat May 10, 2025, 05:39 AM
May 2025

Sounds like they almost had the book written and then found something to support it in their minds.

valleyrogue

(2,524 posts)
32. Herrnstein was peddling this filth long before Murray.
Sat May 10, 2025, 09:04 AM
May 2025

Murray simply capitalized on it because it seemed to support his own racist, sexist, "libertarian" notions.

Redleg

(6,808 posts)
33. I have been a bit sceptical of the "evolutionary psychology" field
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:55 AM
May 2025

since I first read about it. People like Jordan Peterson don't give me much reason to change my mind about it.

valleyrogue

(2,524 posts)
34. It ian' t a real science but is purely political
Sun May 11, 2025, 09:02 AM
May 2025

dressed up in scientific trappings. It was always a mostly a anti-feminist reaction to women's increasing foothold in society. It tries to justify male assholery by claiming it is all biological. MRAs like Peterson use it as a weapon in support of patriarchy.

Redleg

(6,808 posts)
35. I guess that is one way to frame it.
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:11 PM
May 2025

I am in an I-O pyschology-adjacent field (organizational behavior) and so haven't had much exposure to the EP stuff in grad school. I assumed EP's emphasis was on the universal, hard-wired aspects of the psychological processes.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,127 posts)
5. just remember he is projecting
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:07 AM
May 2025

the people he hates the most are smart and self assured, something he is clearly NOT !

What a dirtbag, he is, my apologies to dirt bags, he is much worse than that

eppur_se_muova

(40,864 posts)
7. AND accomplished, in ways that actually matter.
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:13 AM
May 2025

Turnip *thinks* he's self-assured, but he's actually self-deluded.

And I'm not about to call him "self-possessed". He's clearly possessed, but not that kind of possessed.

markpkessinger

(8,875 posts)
22. Totally agree!
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
May 2025

As I have often pointed out to right wing bigots who insist they are not racist because "I would never use the n-word" (or some equally lame reason), when you provide food, water and plenty of sunshine to bigotry, it matters little whether you, yourself, use such language or engage in openly bigoted behavior!"

democrank

(12,060 posts)
9. Low values, low morals, low decency Trump should hang his head in shame.
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:18 AM
May 2025

He offers NOTHING that benefits mankind.

barbtries

(31,095 posts)
15. he should,
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:54 AM
May 2025

but he never ever will. his pathology circumvents it. he can be humiliated and know he's been humiliated, but he will never have the introspection or empathy required to experience shame. never.

whathehell

(30,331 posts)
20. I don't know, judging by the list you've given
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
May 2025

that particular insult seems reserved for Women of color only.

calimary

(88,861 posts)
21. He damn well better NOT!!!
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:25 PM
May 2025

You’re going to have to face it, donald. Whether you like it or not. Whether you want to or not.

The Pope has a bigger following than YOU will EVER have!!! EVER and EVER, AMEN!!!

Frankly, EVERY Pope will have a bigger following than you’ve ever had, on into the future.

usonian

(23,289 posts)
11. In this life, you're as good as the respect you have for others.
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:39 AM
May 2025

Some kook said something similar long ago.

republianmushroom

(22,122 posts)
13. And Eric and Jr. have as high an IQ as their dad.
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:42 AM
May 2025

Geniuses, if the instructions are printed on the heel.

barbtries

(31,095 posts)
14. the lowest IQ individual to inhabit the WH
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:53 AM
May 2025

(never mind gw) is definitely stupid and deranged enough to believe that just being Black means a person is stupid. that's how fucking stupid he is.

Jasmine Crockett's brilliance is in his face but he cannot see it over the color of her skin. that's how fucking stupid he is.

NNadir

(37,196 posts)
17. He is too stupid and too uneducated to understand that "IQ" is a nonsense...
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:04 PM
May 2025

...concept.

forgotmylogin

(7,940 posts)
19. "Low IQ Person" is his personal racist euphemism.
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:11 PM
May 2025

Whereas "DEI" is the administration-wide catch-all racist, phobic, misogynist term.

Bluejeans

(141 posts)
23. As my mother would say...
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:37 PM
May 2025

..."It takes one to know one!"

So following my mother's saying, Trump is a low IQ person who can recognize another low IQ person!

mjvpi

(1,840 posts)
25. You just can't have a high IQ and consciously get into a pissing match with any of those three women,
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:44 PM
May 2025

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
37. Al Green, Stephanie Rhul, and Mika Brzezinski are women of color?
Mon May 12, 2025, 09:19 PM
May 2025

He had called all three low IQ individuals.

Chat GPT is designed to be conversational, not factual.

70sEraVet

(5,203 posts)
38. You are right, Ms. Toad.
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:29 AM
May 2025

I just did a google search of "trump says low IQ" and it turns out he reserves that phrase for only the people he wishes to insult!

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