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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsICE Raids in Los Angeles Really Are Un-American
By Charles P. Pierce
Published: Jul 11, 2025 12:16 PM EDT
... The details should be horrifying to anyone who is not nostalgic for the good old days of Buenos Aires in the 1970s. That it describes events in the United States in the 21st century is almost absurd to the point of laughability. Almost.
The raids in this District follow a common, systematic pattern. Individuals with brown skin are approached or pulled aside by unidentified federal agents, suddenly and with a show of force, and made to answer questions about who they are and where they are from. If they hesitate, attempt to leave, or do not answer the questions to the satisfaction of the agents, they are detained, sometimes tackled, handcuffed, and/or taken into custody. In these interactions, agents typically have no prior information about the individual and no warrant of any kind. If agents make an arrest, contrary to federal law, they do not make any determination of whether a person poses a risk of flight before a warrant can be obtained. Also contrary to federal law, the agents do not identify themselves or explain why the individual is being arrested.
Further, apparently to accommodate the sharp rise in arrests, the government has resorted to keeping individuals at what is supposed to be a shortterm processing center and ICE basement holding area in downtown Los Angeles, known as B-18, often for days. In these dungeon-like facilities, conditions are deplorable and unconstitutional. The government has also unlawfully deprived those arrested of access to counsel. Under such conditions, some of those arrested are pressured into accepting voluntary departure ...
Further, apparently to accommodate the sharp rise in arrests, the government has resorted to keeping individuals at what is supposed to be a shortterm processing center and ICE basement holding area in downtown Los Angeles, known as B-18, often for days. In these dungeon-like facilities, conditions are deplorable and unconstitutional. The government has also unlawfully deprived those arrested of access to counsel. Under such conditions, some of those arrested are pressured into accepting voluntary departure ...
It has to be said, over and over again. There is no "invasion." There is no "national emergency." There is only an immigration policy that needs fixing, and for which there once was a bipartisan attempt to fix that looked like it was going to pass until a certain authoritarian madman got on the horn and scared all the Republicans away, so he could invent an "invasion" and a "national emergency" for his reality show. This is the result of all that futile maneuvering ...
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a65381114/aclu-lawsuit-los-angeles-ice-raids/
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ICE Raids in Los Angeles Really Are Un-American (Original Post)
struggle4progress
Jul 11
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bucolic_frolic
(51,529 posts)1. Well, there is an invasion
and we are under occupation. You simply have to realize who is doing the occupying.
Johonny
(24,201 posts)2. Abu Ghraib American style
Walleye
(41,471 posts)3. I'm convinced they want to be un-American. They brag about it.
Walleye
(41,471 posts)4. They have figured out that the deep state is really the US Constitution
leftstreet
(36,870 posts)5. But, they're un-white people
If this were happening to good white Americans, it'd be different
DURec
thanks for posting this
twodogsbarking
(14,504 posts)6. We are at war but not yet to the part where the other side fights back with more than words. There is no doubt to me.
purple_haze
(401 posts)8. soon enough, i fear
Solly Mack
(95,306 posts)7. K&R
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Martin Eden
(14,639 posts)10. There is indeed an "invasion" and "national emergency"
-- ICE thugs are invading American communities, brutalizing residents, and depriving them of Constitutional rights.