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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBorder czar Tom Homan says that 8 men deported to South Sudan are "free" and no longer America's concern
Related: Homan unsure of status of the eight men deported to South Sudan (Politico video)
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Source: The Guardian
US border czar says he doesnt know fate of eight men deported to South Sudan
Men from Mexico, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos and Myanmar were removed from the US and flown to the war-torn country
Jessica Glenza
Fri 11 Jul 2025 14.47 BST
Last modified on Fri 11 Jul 2025 16.10 BST
Tom Homan, the US border czar, has said he does not know what happened to the eight men deported to South Sudan after the Trump administration resumed sending migrants to countries that are not their place of origin, known as third countries.
Theyre free as far as were concerned. Theyre free, theyre no longer in our custody, theyre in Sudan, Homan told Politico on Friday. Will they stay in Sudan? I dont know.
Administration officials said the men had been convicted of violent crimes in the US. Only one of the eight reportedly has a connection to South Sudan, which recently emerged from a civil war. The others include two people from Myanmar, two from Cuba, and one each from Vietnam, Laos and Mexico.
South Sudanese authorities said on Tuesday the men were in custody in Juba under the care of the relevant authorities, who are screening them and ensuring their safety and wellbeing.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/11/trump-immigration-tom-homan-south-sudan-deportees
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It should also be pointed out how the US said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was "home" while he was locked up in El Salvador.

Greg_In_SF
(486 posts) Enrique Arias-Hierro (Cuba): Convicted of homicide and armed robbery (sentenced to 15 years), false impersonation of an official, kidnapping, and strong-arm robbery (sentenced to 15 years).
Jose Manuel Rodriguez-Quinones (Cuba): Convicted of attempted first-degree murder with a weapon (sentenced to 4 years), battery and larceny (sentenced to 10 months), cocaine possession (sentenced to 1 year), and cocaine trafficking (sentenced to 3 years).
Jesus Munoz-Gutierrez (Mexico): Convicted of second-degree murder (sentenced to life).
Dian Peter Domach (South Sudan): Convicted of robbery and possession of a firearm (sentenced to 8 years), possession of burglars tools and possession of a defaced firearm (sentenced to 18 months), and driving under the influence.
Kyaw Mya (Burma/Myanmar): Convicted of lascivious acts with a child under 12 years of age (sentenced to 10 years, paroled after 4 years).
Nyo Myint (Burma/Myanmar): Convicted of first-degree sexual assault involving a victim mentally and physically incapable of resisting (sentenced to 12 years).
Thongxay Nilakout (Laos): Convicted of first-degree murder and robbery (sentenced to life) for shooting and killing a German tourist in 1994.
Tuan Thanh Phan (Vietnam): Convicted of first-degree murder and second-degree assault.
Duncan Grant
(8,800 posts)Criminal #1: Opposed my congressional race and depleted my fundraising.
Criminal #2: Embarrassed my major donor causing irrevocable harm to his ego.
Criminal #3: Owned property I needed for development, but refused to sell.
And so on. Point being, this will get easier with each flight.
yardwork
(67,782 posts)If nobody had constitutional rights then... nobody had constitutional rights.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)They had final deportation orders issued by an immigration judge.
I asked below, and I'm asking seriously - what should we have done with them?
yardwork
(67,782 posts)The usual approach is to deport people back to their country of origin. Doing otherwise is kidnapping. We're not supposed to do that.
I'm not questioning that these particular people were charged and found guilty of serious crimes.
Unfortunately, under Trump we're seeing that quite a few people - an unknown number, because Trump administration won't release data, which itself is a huge problem - are being sent to be tortured in third countries without any due process at all. They're being snatched off the streets - women and children too - put on secret planes and sent to El Salvador and Gitmo and Sudan and now this Alligator place - a random set of places, some domestic some foreign, where nobody is getting any due process. That is definitely kidnapping.
If they get away with this, literally none of us is safe. Do you own a business somebody envies? They'll drop a tip on you. Having an affair with someone's wife or girlfriend and want to get rid of him? Call ICE, toll free.
A teen kid in a Midwest town was deported to who knows where. He was the ONLY student in his high school who was targeted. Guess what. He was the star athlete. You think maybe somebody was jealous?
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)...to send the back to their home countries, but in this case, the home countries wouldn't take them. So what should we have done with them? They shouldn't be able to stay here, they can't go back to their home countries, so what are the other options?
As to the rest of your post, I agree 100%, the way people are being snatched and disappeared right now is reprehensible and illegal, no question.
But that wasn't the case for the eight people sent to Sudan - they had their due process and were ordered deported.
yardwork
(67,782 posts)obamanut2012
(28,750 posts)Greg_In_SF
(486 posts)They already had their day in court. They were found to be murderers and rapists.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)They had final removal orders - that doesn't happen without appearing before an immigration judge.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)WTF
purple_haze
(401 posts)to everyone else. Through all the gnashing of teeth everybody should at the very least be able to see that this is just one giant psyop to get as many folks to self-deport as possible.
choie
(5,991 posts)What a criminal bastard.
Red Mountain
(2,174 posts)Border czar Tom Homan says that 8 men deported to middle of Pacific Ocean far from land are "free" and no longer America's concern
yardwork
(67,782 posts)dalton99a
(89,914 posts)MineralMan
(149,683 posts)Because he doesn't know. He isn't concerned about people he has deported somewhere. Not his problem, see.
DBoon
(24,176 posts)So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, I am innocent of this mans blood; see to it yourselves.
RussBLib
(10,012 posts)....oh well.
God, what a Nazi.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)What should we have done with them?
Greg_In_SF
(486 posts)here think they should have been allowed to stay here. Unbelievable
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Skittles
(166,948 posts)just a thought
refused to accept them.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)and I don't care WHO the fuck they are
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)Then what should we have done with them?
ETA: They had never been to the U.S. either, until they came here illegally, so they can just go to Sudan and do what they did here...
Skittles
(166,948 posts)and it's really a shame we cannot deport our fucking criminal "president"
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)Presumably they were in prison for the crimes they committed, but I'll go see if I can find out.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)which I ASSUME didn't include being deserved in Sudan
and FUCK everyone who roots for cruelty, FUCK THEM ALL
DONE HERE
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)They did serve the sentences, or were near the end o their sentences.
Greg_In_SF
(486 posts)that they should have been allowed to stay in the United States? They are non-citizen murderers and rapists.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)who the fuck is HE to judge people?
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)But he isn't the one who judged them - juries did. And immigration judges.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)deserting people in countries they have never been doesn't say much about America
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80p315krr4o
Greg_In_SF
(486 posts)nothing to do with each other, and you didnt answer my question.
A judge ordered them to be removed from the Country. I thought we wanted tRump to follow judges orders.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,560 posts)Such indifference to human suffering makes me ill.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,560 posts)Got a link?
yardwork
(67,782 posts)RussBLib
(10,012 posts)...is, I don't know.
I noticed two of those eight were sentenced to life in prison. So why were they let out early or at all? Good behavior? And how long ago were these eight convicted?
Cuba, Vietnam, and Mexico have been accepting deportees of their own citizens, but there are some restrictions and not everyone is accepted. I venture to say that if our own current authorities were not total dickheads, those receiving countries might have been a bit more willing to accept these deportees.
Apparently all eight were in the US illegally. I don't know if they were smuggled in or overstayed a visa, or what.
These are rather unusual cases. Considering all the circumstances, and I still cannot say I fully understand all their situations, deporting them to a country that will take them is a better solution than just letting them roam the streets of the US. There is obviously no guarantee that these eight will never reappear in the US, so this problem may occur again.
https://russblib.blogspot.com
Skittles
(166,948 posts)it's like they've never read a fucking history book
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,393 posts)travelingthrulife
(3,089 posts)Disgusting creature.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)that would shut them the fuck up
Initech
(106,138 posts)I refuse to humanize this man or his evil shit.
Skittles
(166,948 posts)PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER
Initech
(106,138 posts)The only reason we have this shit is because of Fox News and the Heritage Foundation. They are the problem.
Greg_In_SF
(486 posts)think should be done with these men?
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,560 posts)Really?
spanone
(139,956 posts)indusurb
(220 posts)Same with anybody deported to Libya.