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Rather than spending billions to deport people who are already contributing positively to our nations well-being, it would be more financially sensible and more morally acceptable for Congress, working with the Administration, to expand legal pathways for non-criminal migrants to adjust to a permanent legal status, the archbishop wrote.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/jul/11/us-politics-live-news-updates-donald-trump-texas-floods-democrats-republicans?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68718af18f08a97237f2d217#block-68718af18f08a97237f2d217

msongs
(71,827 posts)Bread and Circuses
(924 posts)TomSlick
(12,606 posts)Tell all Catholic ICE agents in the archdiocese they are engaging in a mortal sin. Excommunicate all known Catholic ICE agents in the archdiocese if they do not immediately recant their sin and resign.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,004 posts)can't just make up a mortal sin...and they aren't going to excommunicate someone due to their occupation.
TomSlick
(12,606 posts)Unrepentant and persistent violation of God's command warrants excommunication.
Would the archbishop excommunicate an unrepentant abortion provider? What's the difference other than the Bible doesn't condemn abortion?
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,004 posts)is not considered a mortal sin, while abortion is considered a mortal sin.
TomSlick
(12,606 posts)Abuse of immigrants is forbidden in scripture. The only possible reference to abortion in scripture is the trial by bitter waters in Numbers 5:1131 in which the priests were directed to give a divinely created abortofacient to a woman accused of adultery.
Abortion was decreed to be a mortal sin without biblical support while abuse of immigrants is specifically forbidden in scripture. I think you're saying that abortion is a mortal sin but abuse of immigrants is consistent with being a Catholic. God's law cannot be illogical.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,004 posts)Abortion is considered murder and murder is a mortal sin.
And Im not saying that abuse of immigrants isnt a sin, Im saying its not considered a mortal sin.
TomSlick
(12,606 posts)"If we sin willfully after having the knowledge of the truth, there is now left no sacrifice for sins (Hebrews 10:26).
Hatred of a neighbor is to deliberately wish him evil, and is thus a grave sin (CCC 2303 and Galatians 5:19-20).
Being an unrepentant, persistent ICE agent is a mortal sin. "It's my job" is no better defense for an ICE agent than it is for a hit-man or pimp.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,004 posts)But that wont change the fact that no ICE agents are going to be excommunicated.
TomSlick
(12,606 posts)However, the question is whether they should. The Church must decide whether it condones the abuse of immigrants.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,004 posts)...lays out the circumstances/offenses for excommunication. It could certainly be revised, but that's a years (or decades) long process.
The Church doesn't condone the abuse of immigrants, but it also doesn't excommunicate due to it.
kacekwl
(8,473 posts)He should be impeached by god.