It looks like the cover-up of the century.

Girls was his Viet Nam. How many did he get pregnant and would he even fork out a dime to pay for abortion. No, he would just threaten their lives if they came forward.

daily trying to convince her to lie and say he was just a good friend and he will get her released from prison.

is probably good enough.

The scope may not be limited to what is known already. The motives, even financial ones, remain unproven and unclear. There may be many innocent people connected only by an airplane ride. Wealth protects wealth, many would prefer to look the other way.

Wealth protects wealth, but wealth can also corrupt and pervert people that believe their wealth will protect them from everything.

I would prefer if all of the rapists are exposed for what they are regardless of political affiliation.

Anybody who only cares about the abuse of women when the abuser is politically expedient to them is NOT on the side of human rights, equality or dignity.

Anyone who believes that people couldn’t possibly be an abuser based only on a letter behind their name is deliberately simple, a liar, a fool or some combination thereof.

May all who are proven guilty receive what they deserve.

If they are on our side, they don't deserve to be. They need to be outed and dealt with. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

What if TSF has been using "the list" and/ or the files to blackmail half of DC.? Would explain a lot of the blind worship of him by repubs. He put Alex Acosta on his first term cabinet. That guy knew those case files inside and out.

Any SCOTUS justices ever around Epstein?

A lot of people are giving him millions of dollars for seemingly no reasons?

Everyone knows the POS is in those records in places. We've all seen the photographs of the two of them standing together, rich chums. That's not the reason "they" keep this under wraps. There are names and family shames that could become public, and those names probably cross party lines, and only a fool wouldn't realize those names are connected to money and power.
This should be a sneery hypothesis, a fringe conspiracy theory. It should be easy to disprove.
I wonder if an organized bandit, whose name sounds a lot like a Canadian dish of French fries, cheddar cheese and cream gravy, has been blackmailing people in power for years, decades or more, using the information Epstein created and recorded. They may have preyed on other families of power. This blackmailer is playing a long game. The unnecessary chaos we are currently experiencing has roots that stretch back to the 1980s and before,. That bandit seems to have had something over so many people for a while.

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and I think it's the files that are the issue, not any specific "list"; however, I believe that there is a much deeper scandal to uncover involving Russian meddling and I suspect that Trump was working with Epstein to develop "kompromat" on others, giving him the mysterious power he seems to now have over Republicans and other elites. Sure, it may be scandalous to show that Trump had relations with underage girls, but the much bigger scandal is that Trump benefitted from this deep operation giving Trump, and probably Putin as well, vast political leverage.

...way back during Trump's first term? Did we ever figure out why they went or what was their explanation?

Trump & Epstein's falling out occurred I believe back in 2004. I'm pretty sure Trump wasn't seriously thinking about being President back that long ago. There's no evidence of any contact between the two since Epstein was first arrested.

Besides, you didn't answer my question? Where's your evidence of "the fact that Trump was working with Epstein to develop "kompromat""? Not speculation. You say it is a fact so where is the irrefutable evidence?

This place is supposed to be a "reality based community". There's more than enough documented terrible offenses by Trump, that there is no need to invent additional offenses for which there is no evidence. When I see something alleged as fact that I wasn't aware of, I will research it to confirm it's true. If I can't find evidence confirming the claim, I'll call it out. If it's presented as a speculative opinion, then I'll let it go.

important salient point.

Those children deserve justice. Period. This should not even be a conversation.

Doesn’t matter what political affiliation they are. Pedophiles should be exposed and jailed.

And of course there are politicians and celebs and whatnot from both sides. You think there aren’t these fucking perverts in our tent? Of course there are. They are everywhere.

Expose them and jail them for as long as possible. Far away from any creature comforts as well.

And one might wonder how much political contributions they get from the billionaires on the "list" or in the "files".

We'll never get the full story and all the names.

My guess is some politicians on both sides of the aisle, but also quite a few megadonors and connected powerful individuals in other countries.

The system is rotten.

to protect themselves. One person I read who knew the playboy Trump said he was an animal. There's some pretty serious stuff there.

Maybe they were into Snuff films. Or something really wacko like that.

I wish I could have copied the shot of the fireplace...exactly like the one tsf installed in the Oval Office. It's gaudy, overdone and tacky as hell.

Yes, it certainly does look like a bordello or to put in simpler words, a whore house.

"nothing to see here, move along" and hiring an NSA consultant to give this message. Fox News has already gotten the memo.

That’s the problem with this, each “side” wants this to come out for gotcha purposes. The people involved with this are almost certainly the elite of the elite, the people who really run the world. The nameless international businessmen, bankers, media moguls, royalty and, of course, politicians from all over the world. It might be the biggest international blackmail scheme in history.

That’s really why this can’t come out.

Why did Epstein receive little more than a wrist-slap after his first conviction for sex-trafficking and raping multiple minors – who else gets that kind of treatment? How did he go from teaching high school to becoming a wildly wealthy billionnaire, owning among his other homes a 19,000 s.f. townhouse in Manhattan – without even a college degree? Why were multiple rooms in the homes in which his sex parties with minors took place wired for video recording? Why all the anomalies surrounding his death? Etc.

Given the urgency of the question of whether Epstein's sex parties might have been part of some kind of spying/blackmail operation, why has it taken 6 years for our government to examine his files and tell us there's "nothing to see" there?

The "conviction" was obtained by getting him to plead guilty to procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute. Epstein agreed to the plea deal precisely because it was part of a Non Prosecution Agreement (NPA) deal that was later determined to be illegal. Alex Acosta, later Trump's first Secretary of Labor, was the primary US Attorney on the case. He's never adequately explained why he agreed to the deal. It's pretty clear Acosta was compromised. From Wikipedia: "Acosta later said he offered a lenient plea deal because he was told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence", was "above his pay grade" and to "leave it alone"". Alan Dershowitz was one of Epstein's lawyers. Dershowitz was later accused of raping a woman at Epstein's island.

For more back story, In May 2006, Palm Beach police filed a probable cause affidavit saying that Epstein should be charged with four counts of unlawful sex with minors and one count of sexual abuse. Presented evidence from only two victims, the grand jury returned a single charge of felony solicitation of prostitution. In July 2006, the FBI began its own investigation of Epstein that resulted in a fifty-three page, 60-count indictment in June 2007. That indictment included multiple counts of Sex Trafficking. Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, then agreed to the previously mentioned plea deal, to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". According to the Miami Herald, the non-prosecution agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment. The Miami Herald said: "Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims."

The lawsuit for Trump and Epstein. Ivana and Epstein were both supposed to testify. Then a MAGA trying to kill the judge, killed her son instead and the case was dropped. Nothing to see here.