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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid Epstein hire Melania?
Did Epstein provide Melania a genius grant or grease her way into the country?
Epstein knew everybody, in a manner of speaking.
Would explain her sudden reappearance at her traitor man's side.

Irish_Dem
(72,217 posts)Also: Was Epstein getting help and money from hostile foreign countries?
Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)
An example of why a democracy would wanna know:
... Who knew what when? In Palo Alto, after Epsteins conviction, he was a guest at a dinner for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden that was hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. At the same dinner Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. Is money so powerful that it tramples all other considerations? As James Baldwin put it, I cant believe what you say, because I see what you do.
One of the most remarkable moments in Tyrnauers documentary comes near the end, when its no longer possible to pretend that Cohn isnt a liar and a fraud, when its no longer possible to deny that he lacks both shame and conscience. When Cohn was about to be disbarred in 1986 for defrauding his clients and for taking advantage of a dying and incompetent man, character witnesses began to emerge. There were letters to the court from William F. Buckley Jr., Barbara Walters, William Safire, and, of course, Trump, who wrote that Cohn has been extremely loyal and extremely honest. Were Cohns partieswas his protectionreally that good?...
Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a29130905/roy-cohn-documentary-wheres-my-roy-cohn/
Irish_Dem
(72,217 posts)bucolic_frolic
(51,381 posts)Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)The accused Jeffrey Epstein accomplice was a regular in the same New YorkPalm Beach social circuit.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a33393615/president-donald-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-relationship/
That was written before Ms. Virginia Giuffre, a woman who worked at Mar-a-Largo and met Ghislaine Maxwell there, "took her own life."
AllaN01Bear
(26,372 posts)Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)Certainly, Trump and Epstein were an item. But the marriage counselor was old school:
Its a small world...
The Epstein-Barr Problem of New York Citys Dalton School
JERRY LAMBE
July 13th, 2019, 10:50 am
Excerpt...
Epstein, who was charged last week by federal authorities in the Southern District of New York with sex trafficking with sex-trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex-trafficking, was a 20 year old college drop-out when he was hired to teach at Dalton by the schools headmaster Donald Barr in the mid 1970s. Donald Barr was the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who is currently overseeing Epsteins prosecution.
According to at least one former student, Dalton alums have long joked about Barrs hiring of Epstein..
The joke has been [that] this is the Epstein-Barr problem at Dalton, said Harry Segal, a 1974 graduate who is now a senior lecturer at Cornell University and Weill Cornell Medical College, in an interview with the Huffington Post. Epstein-Barr is a type of herpes virus best known as the cause of infectious mononucleosis.
Scott Spizer, who graduated in 1976, said that Epstein was most remembered for his persistent attention on teenage girls in the hallways, recalled a night when the young educator showed up at a party where Dalton students were drinking.
I can remember thinking at the time, This is wrong, Spizer said in an interview with the New York Times.
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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/
GoCubsGo
(34,059 posts)Granted, there's all that talk about Maxwell and Epstein being foreign agents of some sort. It could all be related.
As for Malaria's sudden reappearance, I suspect that's an attempt to alleviate any suspicions as to why she's never around. That, and she probably needs a money fix.
Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)
Melania Trump's best friend is listed in a never-before-seen address book that apparently belonged to Jeffrey Epstein in 1997
Insider has obtained a never-seen-before address book that appears to have belonged to Jeffrey Epstein in the 1990s.
The book, which contains entries for 349 people, offers a window into the late pedophile's social circle a full decade prior to the era covered by his previously known "little black book." More than 200 names listed in the book did not appear in Epstein's later address book.
Prominent entries not previously associated with Epstein include Suzanne Ircha, Carl Icahn, John A. Catsimatidis, Morgan Fairchild, Sandy Warner, and Martin Peretz.
by Angela Wang
Business Insider, July 14, 2021
Suzanne Ircha, a close associate of Melania Trump, is listed in a previously unseen address book that apparently belonged to Jeffrey Epstein in the 1990s.
The address book, obtained by Insider, brings dozens of notable names into Epstein's network for the first time. It also traces previously reported relationships back to the 1990s.
Ircha, who now goes by Suzanne Johnson following her marriage to New York Jets owner Woody Johnson, is frequently described in the media as the best friend of Melania Trump. Her presence in Epstein's Rolodex adds to a web of known connections between the former First Lady, her husband, and the sex offender.
Ircha Johnson, an erstwhile actress who starred in two B-movies during a hiatus from the financial sector, formerly worked as an equities saleswoman at the investment bank Sandler O'Neill. Like Epstein, she started her finance career at Bear Stearns.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/melania-trumps-best-friend-suzanne-ircha-jeffrey-epsteins-address-book-2021-6
The rich seldom welcome anyone without money into their club. Ya need talent. Kid.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(838 posts)
MrWowWow
(574 posts)Malaria is the National Fembot
Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)
Reminder: Jeffrey Epstein hired a 16-year old who worked for Donald J Trump.
Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victims recruitment at Mar-a-Lago
by JOSH GERSTEIN
08/10/2019
Excerpt
The roughly 2,000 pages of records released by the Manhattan-based 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals also show the same woman, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, appears to have claimed she had sex with a series of prominent men including former politicians at Epsteins direction while working as a staff masseuse for the investment adviser, who eventually came under investigation in 2006 for sex trafficking over his involvement with teenage girls.
The deal drew objections and a lawsuit from some of Epsteins victims, who alleged they were illegally kept in the dark about the agreement. Earlier this year, a federal judge agreed the victims rights were violated. That ruling, and a fresh indictment of Epstein in federal court in New York City last month, set in motion the resignation of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta, who was the chief federal prosecutor in south Florida and signed off on the Epstein deal.
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In deposition excerpts made public Friday, Giuffre said she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 when she was approached by Epsteins longtime friend Ghislaine Maxwell about giving massages to the wealthy investor, who owned a mansion in Palm Beach not far from the Trump resort.
Where in the spa were you when you were approached by Ghislaine Maxwell? Maxwells attorney Laura Menninger asked at a May 2016 deposition.
Just outside the locker room, sitting where the other girl who works there usually sits, Giuffre replied. I was reading a book on massage therapy. She noticed I was reading the massage book. And I started to have chitchat with her just about, you know, the body and the anatomy and how I was interested in it. And she told me that she knew somebody that was looking for a traveling masseuse. ... If the guy likes you then, you know, it will work out for you. Youll travel. Youll make good money.
Who knows about that or the time when Epstein said, No, to Drumpf?
Jeffrey Epstein Accuser: When Donald Trump Eyed Me, Epstein Remarked Shes Not for You
by JERRY LAMBE
Law & Crime.org, Aug. 26th, 2019, 1:29 pm 305
In a harrowing report from the New York Times on Monday, sisters Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer divulged details of the earliest known reports to authorities of Jeffrey Epsteins illicit sexual contact with young women and young girls. They accused both Epstein and his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell of sexually assaulting them as early as 1996, a year before actress and model Alicia Arden filed a police report claiming that Epstein groped her.
Recounting one of her first memories of life in Epsteins orbit, Maria Farmer said she remembered one particular interaction between Epstein and President Donald Trump, during which Epstein appeared to shoot down the future president of the United States after he allegedly ogled the 25-year-old Farmer.
Farmer was an artist who moved to New York City in 1993 to pursue a career in the arts. She said she was introduced to Epstein and Maxwell after graduating from the New York Academy of Art, both of whom took an immediate interest in the young woman. Epstein quickly offered her a position acquisitioning art and managing his townhouse entrance, which meant she frequently found herself in the palatial estate.
Farmer was in Epsteins office when she first met Donald Trump. According to the report, Trump was eyeing Farmer when Epstein jumped in, telling Trump shes not for you. The Times said Farmers mother, Janice Swain, vouched for the account of the Trump-Epstein interaction, saying her daughter detailed it to her around the time it happened.
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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-when-donald-trump-eyed-me-epstein-remarked-shes-not-for-you/
As Trump obeyed Epstein, we can see who called the shots in their friendship. Furthermore, the great Russian Money Laundering Business revealed their competitive nature.
Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and a Russian Oligarch Is Peak Sleazy Corruption
And yet they're all tied to the same Palm Beach mansion.
By Charles P. Pierce
Esquire, August 1, 2019
I don't want to alarm anyone, but the Washington Post has a report that well may be a warning that we are approaching an historical singularity in our current political moment that will swallow the entire universe and leave us with nothing but cheap red baseball hats and plastic straws, as well as stick all of us with the bill for destroying the present. It involves a mansion, a Russian, the president*, and Jeffrey Epstein, which is as complete and round a ball of sleazy and corrupt energy as can be imagined.
Let us return then to the luxurious grounds of Maison de l'Amitie in beautiful Palm Beach.
In November 2004, Trump, who was starring in NBCs The Apprentice at the time, declared himself intent on winning the finest piece of land in Florida and probably the U.S., an estate that had been seized as part of the bankruptcy of nursing home magnate Abe Gosman. Trump said he planned to create the second greatest house in America, Mar-a-Lago being the first and then resell it.
Epstein was also enraptured by the property, which Gosman had purchased in 1988 for about $12 million from Leslie Wexner, the Ohio-based retail executive who was a friend and patron of Epsteins. In contrast to Trump, Epstein seemed interested in living at the place. Harley Riedel, an attorney for Gosman, said the previous owner had filled the mansion with pricey art and really did have in his heart that it would be nice if someone moved in and lived there.
The auction began with an attempt by one of Epsteins three attorneys to knock Trump out of the bidding. Attorney Andrew Kamensky argued that Trump was not qualified because he demanded that the property have title insurance or he would not close on the sale. What Im telling you is that Mr. Epstein will he will close, Kamensky said, according a transcript obtained by The Post.
Trump wasnt in Palm Beach his own attorney, Raymond Royce, was in the courtroom. But Trump was on the phone, and now he chimed in to defend himself. Riedels first notice that Trump might personally take part in the proceedings came when his voice boomed from the speakerphone. I was sort of shocked, the lawyer said. Judge Steven Friedman rejected Epsteins objection. The bidding began with Epsteins offer of $37.25 million, but he dropped out after his bid of $38.6 million was topped.
It is unclear whether Trump and Epstein were in contact after the house sale. That month, Trump left two messages for Epstein at his home in Palm Beach, according to records obtained by Vice News the last known interaction between the two men.
OK, so two unremitting sleazeballs bidding over a piece of prime seafront property in Palm Beach is almost perfectly EpTrumpian. But the singularity is achieved in the story just a few lines later.
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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28580523/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-palm-beach-mansion-russian-oligarch/
Strike a pose.

SoFlaBro
(3,542 posts)Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)But, the connected few enjoy the privilege of making their picks before the show is opened to the public.
Jeffrey Epstein Accuser: When Donald Trump Eyed Me, Epstein Remarked Shes Not for You
by JERRY LAMBE
Law & Crime.org, Aug. 26th, 2019, 1:29 pm 305
In a harrowing report from the New York Times on Monday, sisters Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer divulged details of the earliest known reports to authorities of Jeffrey Epsteins illicit sexual contact with young women and young girls. They accused both Epstein and his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell of sexually assaulting them as early as 1996, a year before actress and model Alicia Arden filed a police report claiming that Epstein groped her.
Recounting one of her first memories of life in Epsteins orbit, Maria Farmer said she remembered one particular interaction between Epstein and President Donald Trump, during which Epstein appeared to shoot down the future president of the United States after he allegedly ogled the 25-year-old Farmer.
Farmer was an artist who moved to New York City in 1993 to pursue a career in the arts. She said she was introduced to Epstein and Maxwell after graduating from the New York Academy of Art, both of whom took an immediate interest in the young woman. Epstein quickly offered her a position acquisitioning art and managing his townhouse entrance, which meant she frequently found herself in the palatial estate.
Farmer was in Epsteins office when she first met Donald Trump. According to the report, Trump was eyeing Farmer when Epstein jumped in, telling Trump shes not for you. The Times said Farmers mother, Janice Swain, vouched for the account of the Trump-Epstein interaction, saying her daughter detailed it to her around the time it happened.
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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-when-donald-trump-eyed-me-epstein-remarked-shes-not-for-you/
Trump obeyed Epstein, which shows who owned whom.
Dan
(4,823 posts)I dont think that she was an asset of Epstein, she was an independent ho.
Polybius
(20,495 posts)About 10 years too old for Epstein.
betsuni
(28,108 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)that Putin had everything Epstein did......How else would you explain the 180 degree shift from Lindsay Graham from Loathing Trump, to licking and kissing Trump non-stop. None of the Republicans care he is a flaming homo, but if Putin supplied Trump with a 5 x 10 Color Glossy of Lindsay with a young boy.........................