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3Hotdogs

(14,348 posts)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:27 PM Monday

Epstein... this baffles me. Testimony from one of the victims indicates that she had sex with two prominent politicians.

The judge had their names are redacted in the court documents. Can't an appellate court order the names to be shown?

And then, of course, there is Trump. Who among us wasn't skeived, looking at the photo of Trump in the back of a limo, with Princess Sparkle Pony draped over him. She was approximately 14 years old in the photo.

Or when he would enter the dressing room of contestants in the teenage beauty contest that he ran.

A number of girls were trafficked to the island. The only names to ever come out in pubic were Prince Andrew, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. And only Andrew was accused of sex with a minor.

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AZJonnie

(1,020 posts)
1. There were definitely more names bandied about, including Bill Richardson as I recall.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:44 PM
Monday

I'm curious, what lawyer is going to be taking what case to which appellate court, and on what grounds, to ask for these names to be exposed?

And there's a whole litany of skeevy pics of IQ47 and Princess Sparkle Pony, but the one that really takes the cake to me is not a photo, but the fact that he went on The View and told a tableful of WOMEN, including Ivanka herself, that if she wasn't his daughter, maybe he'd be dating her. Can you imagine how mortified Ivanka must've been, omfg!!!

RockRaven

(17,619 posts)
2. A lot of other names are out there beyond those three, with varying degrees of red flags.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:54 PM
Monday

I can think of a software executive turned philanthropist, two physicists, and a washed up actor, just right off the top of my head. But like I said, red flags, so I won't name them specifically.

newdeal2

(3,345 posts)
4. He associated with a lot of well known or powerful people
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:02 AM
Yesterday

I won’t assume all of them had sex with underage girls. Just the names without other evidence linking them to a crime isn’t useful.

stopdiggin

(14,013 posts)
7. my take as well
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:31 AM
Yesterday

I'm not going to blame the partisans for making as much hay as they can while the fire is hot. But am I, personally, really invested in this 'story'? Waiting with bated breath? At this point I'm not even truly convinced there IS much of a story.

Captain Zero

(8,114 posts)
8. is there a statute of limitations for sex with a minor?
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:37 AM
Yesterday

If so, then most of these couldn't even be prosecuted.
Usually 5 years on a statute of limitations.

So why is it a big deal if the names come out?

newdeal2

(3,345 posts)
9. I don't care if names come out or not
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:44 AM
Yesterday

I’m not on the list so I have nothing to worry about.

All I’m saying is he was connected some how to every possible person you could think of from religious leaders to political leaders, royalty, business tycoons, and academics. Some portion of them were probably involved in the sex stuff, and some were just there for money or other favors.

SalamanderSleeps

(903 posts)
3. Alan Dershowitz was only given a massage by a nice middle aged lady.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:54 PM
Monday

His money, and influence, must have made the little girls seem much, much, older.





Pompoy

(177 posts)
10. Meh, this is a story MAGA used to indict the US Government as evil.
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 02:02 AM
Yesterday
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/13/opinion/epstein-files-trump-maga.html
https://www.archivebuttons.com/
Today my paywall remover was acting up, but it might work for others.
"The Epstein story mattered so much in MAGA circles because it was a key element in their indictment of America’s so-called ruling class. Trump’s appeal to the Republican base isn’t just rooted in his supporters’ extraordinary affection for the man; it’s also rooted in their almost indescribably dark view of the American government.

Why are they so keen to burn it all down? Well, if you believe your government is populated by people so depraved that they’d participate in and cover up the systematic sexual abuse of children, then you wouldn’t just want them out of office; you’d want them prosecuted, imprisoned and maybe even executed. And you’d want all the power you’d need to make that happen."

"And if you believe that the ruling elites would abuse children, then they’d certainly be the kind of people who’d gin up a Russia hoax or try to steal an election in 2020. People who are that terrible are capable of anything. And if you wonder why MAGA turned on the F.B.I. and the Department of Justice, well, it’s not just about the Russia investigation or the F.B.I. search of Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago. MAGA America also believed the F.B.I. was protecting pedophiles to preserve the status quo.

On the right, the Epstein story became the thinking man’s version of the QAnon conspiracy theory — the idea that American society was led by a gang of cannibalistic pedophiles. Whereas QAnon was rooted in the imaginary revelations of a shadowy figure who claimed Q security clearance, at least the Epstein story was rooted in some very grim, very real facts."

Pompoy

(177 posts)
11. Not to say that there weren't politicians and other powerful people who visited Epstein Island
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 02:06 AM
Yesterday

But the guy I think mostly lured them by getting involved in charities etc.
And of course pretty girls in a tropical island. I don't think they were there to sample underage girls.
Even though Epstein certainly was a pedophile.

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