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“This is wild.

Eric Weinstein says he’d “bet money” Epstein was an intelligence asset—and that his reach even extended to controlling scientists and burying discoveries.

According to Weinstein, Epstein and his girlfriend's father were part of a “control mechanism” designed to keep revolutionary discoveries “within a framework.”

In plain English, that likely means discoveries didn’t see the light of day unless whoever was controlling Epstein approved it.

“I was in the Harvard Mathematics Department. Jeffrey Epstein was absolutely connected to the Harvard Math Department. I want to know why. How was he connected to the Math Department?”

“Jeffrey Epstein knew a tremendous amount about my work when nobody knew anything about my work.”

“It was very important to get Nobel laureates and some of the smartest people on Earth to come to the Virgin Islands and talk about gravity. Stephen Hawking was there, David Gross was there. Lawrence Krauss was there. Lisa Randall was there right before his conviction.”

“I think that his girlfriend’s father, Robert Maxwell, was all through scientific publishing. And I think Pergamon Press was in part a control mechanism for making sure that revolutionary discoveries were taking place within a framework.”

“I think Jeffrey Epstein was in part trying to fund science, trying to control it. I don’t really know.”

This 7-minute clip says a lot.”

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I'd be very surprised if that's not the case.

Trump had a lot of political connections, as well as many billionaire businessmen. He probably promised all of them campaign contributions?

Scalia

He has an eye for the ladies and a history of being sexually inappropriate.

I can see it.

Maybe girly accounts was some of his massive credit card debt that mysteriously went to zero right before he was nominated to the SC.

Disgusting that these men have so much power over us.

He wouldve never considered bringing them into the group. People forget that its been MANY years since he ran his ring. Just like the MAGAs who tried to tie Harris to him; back in those days Harris wouldnt have been a big enough "celebrity". Neither would many of their other targets.

I seem to remember that Limbaugh's proclivities ran to young Dominican boys.

Disgusting tongue and soul on that one.

Rush preferred The Dominican Republic for his parties with the boys.

They could have just kicked the can down the road for 4 years.

Why did they kick this hornet's nest?

Why now?

...in his feud with Trump, when he tweeted that Trump was on the list.

He seems to know who is and who is not on the list (that doesn't exist).

please also ask him about stealing the election for T💩p.

That’s what I have thought all along.

Or why did they suppress it if they did know?

Also, why would the Trump administration risk having it come out by having her indicted in July 2020?

Maxwell was indicted in July 2020; she was tried and convicted in 2021 and sentenced in 2022.

Certainly Bill Barr knew what was taken (photos, videos, hard drives) from Epstein's Pedo Island. Whether Barr destroyed the evidence or not, we'll never know unless he gets called to testify. There's reason to believe that Bill Barr's own father might have been one of Epstein's first blackmail victims. If that's true then Barr had sufficient motive to destroy Epstein's evidence, or some of it.

They instead turned to the most current crimes of Trump. I suspect they wanted to concentrate on the greatest danger to the country. Unfortunately they did not anticipate the complete collapse of SCOTUS, against democracy.

why wouldn't that have been a priority to get out as a way of neutralizing the risk of Trump winning in 2024?

I think he was one of many clients of Epstein with some likely depraved and despicable proclivities. Trump is more the hanger on type of person, wanting to be liked. Epstein had far more powerful friends than Trump at that time.

The idea that he was running Epstein's pedo ring as described in the OP doesn't square with what we know about the personalities of either of these men. The reasons are many, including the following:

1. Epstein was too independent to want to be "second in command" of anything. I see him as a lone wolf, who knew what he wanted to do and how to do it. He wouldn't have needed Schlump's help.

2. Epstein was also very shrewd and canny. He had to be, to pull off what he pulled off for as long as he did. Schlump, otoh, has never been terribly bright, even before the dementia started to kick in. A guy as smart as Epstein would have seen Schlump for the blustering, empty headed loudmouth that he is and recognize that he was unreliable and not a safe person to be trusted with anything important.

3. Schlump doesn't have the attention span, the self descipline, or the work ethic to mastermind something that complicated. This is a guy who has never really had to work for anything in his life, and he is and always has been way too lazy to start. Epstein would have no interest in entrusting his darkest secrets to such a person.

I can imagine Schlump helping to recruit some of the victims. He did have access to them, as the OP pointed out, and he also had superficial charm and a sufficient veneer of power and success to impress young, inexperienced, teenage girls. But beyond that? No, I really can't see it.

Imo, the person described in the OP as masterminding Epstein's pedo operation is simply not the Donald J. Trump we all know and hate.

with everything you posted.

Maxwell procured girls from Mara-Shithole.

In my opinion, Trump helped him to build his sex "business" and when they split, Maxwell took over the recruiting for Epstein. Epstein had someone else recruit the girls for him, it seems?

It is known that Trump passed Virginia G. from his employment at MaraLoco to the Epsteins.
Do you think she was the only one? I doubt it. Do you think Trump did it for free? Ha.
And obviously in her case he also got free access to 'the goodies' after she had been turned into a finished product.

Sorry to be so blunt, but all that seems obvious to me.

So if this much is obvious, what other similar things happened with other underage girls that we don't know about? That is why TACO is in a mad scramble to disappear all this. It's the only explanation.

Epstein was the mastermind. Rump was a willing accomplice.

But I don’t agree that Don the Con is not smart. He’s clever and cunning and creative, in a sick evil way, a sadist. Knows exactly how to pick his enablers. Exactly how to pick his victims. It’s a type of twisted brilliance. Talk about gaming the system! He may get away with everything, an amazing achievement. The Shitler will have a permanent niche in the hall of archetypal villains. He’s not lazy—he’s earned it.

But OMG he’s the criminal psychopath president—currently assaulting us all on a daily basis. No boundaries. Fucking us over and over, like a serial rapist. Even the MAGAS will be realizing this, the smarter ones. They may still defend him, but they can’t unsee it.

But we must remember that when all of this was going on, Donald Trump was considered to be a Democrat. He donated money to Hillary Clinton and to Kamala Harris. He cultivated political connections. And his wealthy friends agreed to give large campaign contributions to these connections. They, in turn, received very favorable tax writing legislation, for real estate, etc.

Also, there was a lot going on in 2022 and afterward that Joe Biden and the Democrats may have considered more important than the trips to Epstein's island? They never saw it as the political opportunity they now see, because MAGA was not where they are today.

There may have been very well known Democrats that visited the island and Biden may not have wanted them exposed is another possibility.

Including some very powerful figures.

The first scandal being the big money donations and the second scandal being the child sex-ring with Epstein.

not buying it

Biden did not have his hand in the DOJ like Trump does.

Biden appointed Merrick Garland -- that was the extent of his primary involvement with the DOJ. And we know what a failure Garland turned out to be.

And it's no surprise that primarily the same DOJ that screwed Hillary and slow-walked the Trump investigations ended up quickly pulling a "catch and kill" to do away with all things Epstein-related under Trump.

Too obtuse for some folk, I guess.

Law enforcement always cuts deals with people who can give up the bigger fish.

This whole theory doesn’t make sense. And of course there’s no evidence for it, at least now.

Trump was up to his bulging eyeballs in this but to think he was the ringleader? Nah. The guy can’t organize anything.

Just to meet their young daughters. What a sick f6ck. Very committed sick f6ck.

to keep the money flowing. With video to silence whoever they enticed into their unforgivable behavior, they could get away with anything until Epstein became an unavoidable liability.

Moldavia is not a place. Moldova is.

Although there was a Moldavian Republic in the old Soviet Union. Will edit the correction.

The moldavian republic SSR = Moldova today.

Not sure why I posted that edit, no offense intended. Just being picky at the time.

Your theory ticks the boxes.
Explains most of the data.

Most of the MAGAs don't care, in fact they like it.

...that is possibly how they came up with the Democrat sex-ring operating out of the basement of a pizza joint?

This is quite common.
It serves to confuse the public and juries.
And humiliates the ones they falsely accuse.

…(yes, that chronic asshole) claimed that there was a colony, on Mars, of children who had been kidnapped and sent there to be slaves.

…whether to feel sorry for or scornful of people who believe this kind of BS. Truly pathetic.

Could it be that he is still finding/disappearing people for human trafficking? Slave workers for sure, but hey, old habits die hard. I do not rule out the possibility that he is still running GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS for somebody else now.

didn't the Trump family money originate from his grandfather who operated brothels in Canada? before immigrating to the US.

Putin is said to run a lucrative sex/drug trafficking operation.
Also it gives him bribery material.

Was Epstein the American/European branch of the operation?
Putin has been funding Trump for a long time.

Epstein also got Prince Andrew ensnared into the operation.
Putin has been wanting to destabilize European and American democracies.

As when Trump got his big beauty show in Moscow. It gets pretty deep in conspiracy theories from there, in my opinion.

But, it is a little puzzling how and why Trump is finally agreeing to give weapons to Ukraine, albeit thru European sources, not assisting them up front. How would Putin view that in their "relationship", which up to this point, Trump has groveled to Putin in every instance.

Trump liked to brag of his sexual exploits, as when he said that his sexual adventures were his own personal "Vietnam", after he got 5 deferments to stay out of the "real" war.

No doubt, Putin, the old KGB boss, knew his likes and his weaknesses, and used that to his advantage. How far that goes is open to theory.

Putin has been very effective in weakening America and all our alliances since Trump has been in power.

And many of the women trafficked appear to be from former Russian territories?
Like Melania.
Yacht girl who made good.

It appears that Putin is not doing as Trump is requesting.
Trump wants the Nobel Prize and so has to be seen to end the war in Ukraine.
Plus he campaigned on ending it right away.
Putin is not cooperating with Trump's fantasies and plans.

Narcissists and psychopaths often fall out. What can you expect from a den of thieves?

It appears Putin is still in charge.

How does he know that Ukraine will get them?

... than with Chump, who is a bad business partner all-around.

Certainly Epstein would have recognized early on that Chump was not someone he wanted to be "in business" with. It's more likely that Chump was his target, and they somehow struck up an acquaintance while living in New York and enjoying the NY party scene. Different story with Ghislaine Maxwell who presumably learned the spy-and-kompromat business well from her father.

...and that Maxwell began to do the job of recruiting that Trump once did? It is also possible that Epstein did a lot of illegal stuff after their split, reportedly over a piece of property in Palm Beach?

But Trump got him started in the business, in my opinion. And Epstein took full advantage of it. There were also rumors that Epstein attempted to recruit Ivanka.

I think Epstein partnered with both Trump and Maxwell, but just at different times.

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And this is not a sex scandal.

It was a very large, organized, multi-decade operation to collect Kompromat on people who were thought to be potentially important and influential, and against whom some leverage could be very beneficial.

Trump was not the ring leader, but I agree that his role with Epstein was more as a collaborator/partner than as a client. But Trump undoubtedly sampled the 14-year-old merchandise from time to time.

How much could Epstein charge Prince Andrew for an hour with a young girl? Maybe a thousand bucks or $2000? How much would the KGB or Mussad pay for videos of that? Millions.

Epstein didn't get rich by being a pimp to the stars. He got rich by developing and selling Kompromat. When we understand that simple fact, things start to make much more sense.

Chump as a business partner would have ruined the entire scheme.

Epstein had a good partner in Ghislaine Maxwell, at least for a time. We'll never know how much money they made on their kompromat scheme. She learned the ropes from her dad, and she probably taught him a thing or two along the way.

When Epstein moved to Florida, I don't think she stayed there for very long. She was mostly in the New York mansion, and that's what shielded her. When Epstein got the conviction in Florida, she was already out of the partnership.

1. Clearly Epstein and Maxwell were partners.
2. Epstein developed "clients" (i.e Kompromat targets) and handled the business end of things.
3. Maxwell had the knowledge of and access to the spy agencies. And of course, Maxwell was the principal in the recruiting of prostitutes, especially the grooming of young ones.
4. Epstein recognized that Trump had some connections, including mob connections, and that Trump liked the young girls. This was about the time that the KGB was grooming Trump (aka Krasnov), so there is a good chance that the KGB made it known that any Kompromat on Trump would be well rewarded.
5. But Trump wasn't just a client and target. He fancied himself mingling in the same circles where the spy agencies wanted access and control. So the relationship with Trump was, shall we say, complicated.
6. Epstein was considerably smarter and more cunning than Trump and was able to compromise Trump (that's easy) while also getting Trump to assist with recruiting others who would go into Epstein's meat grinder.
7. My bet is that Trump never really knew how completely Epstein was manipulating him. Trump loves to be the center of attention. Epstein exploited that to get Trump to bring many others into the Kompromat house.
8. I'm not convinced the FBI or other agencies have all of this in a report. But you can be practically certain that there are people in those agencies that understand the whole picture. And that is why Trump is panicking. He probably didn't realize just how big and deep the Epstein operation was until the past few years, and Trump really isn't sure what others know and who might expose the details.

It's posted here on DU, just in the last day or two, that the CIA and other intelligence agencies were warned to "stay away from Epstein" because he was a Mossad agent. Or he was working with Mossad, which is basically the same thing. Epstein wasn't being watched - on purpose - and the rumor could have easily been spread by Maxwell herself, or her father.

I'm thinking about a 16 lane highway. Move to the passing lanes and step on the gas!

He also owns the richest country in the world and will use that wealth and power to expand his criminal empire. The US is just another business he will extort until there is nothing left but bankruptcy.

Trump and Epstein both worked for the same people. Performing different tasks as you say.

It wasn't only about the sex for many of these men, it was about the company of other accomplished, famous and wealthy men. It was about the conversations, the connections.

It was also to a great degree Epstein, himself that these men wanted to converse with. They certainly didn't want to converse with the dumbass in the White House. They played a very dangerous game and now, finally, some of them may pay the price for it.

He had this crazy idea to - literally - collect donations of sperm from these "geniuses" and start a new race of babies that would be generated from the "genius" sperm. I'm sure that Epstein counted himself as one of those geniuses.

And that's no conspiracy theory -- it's fact:

What was Maxwell doing at Mar-a-Lago? Did she visit often?

Have you not seen all the photos/videos of them partying together there? One of the most famous clips out there was at Mar-a-Lago:

According to the video, it was 1992. Was Trump just making small talk with Epstein or was he trying to make a "sell". He points to one girl and says, "She's hot!". He seemed to be trying to impress Epstein.

Two investigative reporters - Greg Olear and Stephanie Koff:
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/deconstructing-the-epstein-myth-what

There were several people pulling the strings. A CEO wanted info on a politician, was given the order to Epstein target them. Say Putin wanted info on trump and knew about his affinity for the young girls. Epstein flew him to his private island. Now Putin has all he needs to control trump.

procure lots of girls for the harem? Couldn't she have been in charge with Jeffrey?

There is a video of Trump and Epstein partying in 1992. So there was a 12-year relationship there. After their split, in my opinion, Ghislaine Maxwell took over the recruiting for Epstein. But for 10 or 12 years, I think Trump was helping him recruit the girls. Just my opinion. By the way, Epstein was indicted on sex charges in 2007, when Pam Bondi was the AG of Florida.

So, no, she did not start procuring after the Epstein/Trump split in 2004.

Riiight. Good point. The Art of the Deal.

When Trump says he’s standing by you, Pam, time to worry….

Chump has paid a lot of women off, including under-age girls. Why would he pay them if he planned to kill them? No I don't think that was ever his plan. It's very sad that a few of the girls who were recruited into Epstein's group have subsequently committed suicide, including Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

Chump is basically a chicken-shit anyway. He avoids personal confrontation whenever possible. He won't even fire his own employees to their faces (unlike the TV show The Apprentice.) When someone gets fired by Chump, it's usually by an email or a tweet. If he's that much of a chicken-shit, how could he be a cold-blooded murderer? Doesn't make sense.

... was certainly human trafficking -- taking advantage of vulnerable, often undocumented, young women for cheap labor as models. These women were clearly exploited. The leap from trafficking for labor to trafficking for sex would not be too surprising.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

The felon is guilty as hell.

There are national security issues and that has been problem in prosecuting Epstein.

Look at Maxwell. Look at finance people like Leon Black. Look at their connections.

Your theory that Trump commanded Epstein is the smoke to make the issue go away regardless of the felon's guilt.

look at how badly he plays being "president"

Trump was definitely a part of the sordid Epstein saga but I would say some billionaires were "in charge"

n/t

...and I try to keep an open mind.

It is almost a consensus that Trump was deeply involved but not in charge. Trump and Epstein were friends from 1992 to 2004. Epstein got into most of his legal troubles after their friendship ended. So, it would appear that any Trump assistance to Epstein would have happened in that time frame. Also, it looks as if Epstein and Maxwell were the main culprits after 2004? Trump seemed to be out of the picture at that time. We do not know what Trump did for Epstein in that 10-12 year period they were friends? It appears to me that Trump was giving big donations to politicians to get tax breaks and political favors, while he was setting up trips to the island and assisting Epstein with his procurement of young ladies. It was probably a bi-partisan scandal, with enough money to cover it all up.