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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/15/irish-tourist-ice-detentionIrish tourist jailed by Ice for months after overstaying US visit by three days: Nobody is safe
Exclusive: For roughly 100 days, Thomas says he faced harsh detention conditions, despite agreeing to deportation
Sam Levin
Tue 15 Jul 2025 06.00 EDT
Thomas, a 35-year-old tech worker and father of three from Ireland, came to West Virginia to visit his girlfriend last fall. It was one of many trips he had taken to the US, and he was authorized to travel under a visa waiver program that allows tourists to stay in the country for 90 days.
He had planned to return to Ireland in December, but was briefly unable to fly due to a health issue, his medical records show. He was only three days overdue to leave the US when an encounter with police landed him in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) custody.
From there, what should have been a minor incident became a nightmarish ordeal: he was detained by Ice in three different facilities, ultimately spending roughly 100 days behind bars with little understanding of why he was being held or when hed get out.
He obtained paperwork from his physician and contacted the Irish and US embassies and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to seek an extension, but it was short notice and he did not hear back, he said. I did everything I could with the online tools available to notify the authorities that this was happening, he said, explaining that by the time his deadline to leave the US had approached, he was nearly healed and planning to soon return. I thought they would understand because I had the correct paperwork. It was just a couple of days for medical reasons.
more held in prison not ice detention brutal treatment barred from us for ten years

Blue Full Moon
(2,475 posts)Why doesn't ICE go after the real criminals. The drug lords that trump paid money for them to move to the USA.
cbabe
(5,271 posts)LiberalArkie
(18,624 posts)IronLionZion
(49,488 posts)so they get a sick fellow on a tourist visa visiting his girlfriend. Much easier
Irish_Dem
(72,599 posts)yardwork
(67,263 posts)They are in the tank for TrumpCo.
Irish_Dem
(72,599 posts)newdeal2
(3,437 posts)You do have to respect them. But I dont know what benefit there is to keeping him for 100 days. Just deport him asap and save the time and money.
cbabe
(5,271 posts)Plus wonder how much money was made and by whom holding him for 100 days.
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)He voluntarily signed removal papers on December 17, when Biden still had more than a month in office.
Something is not right with this story.
cbabe
(5,271 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)To see that the initial decision was made December 17, since he signed voluntary removal papers on that day - and the initial 1/3 of the detention was still while Biden was president, right?
There's a lot of confirmation bias going on in the article (which implied Trump made the decision), and this thread.
Immigration policy has been inhuman for a long time, including under Democratic leadership. It is undeniably worse now - but our hands are not clean in this case.
IbogaProject
(4,678 posts)By then they had a backlog
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)Biden was no slouch, unfortunately, on deportation
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record
We need to own it when we are wrong on things, and not try to explain them away by saying some rogue deep state agency was holding this man in detention until Trump was inaugurated. This smacks of the first Trump tin foil blankets (pictures taken during Obama presidency) and stolen religious articles (collected during several administrations, including Democratic ones)
Dave says
(5,187 posts)then people should be able to freely cross borders, too. Cmon CEOs, you call us human capital, let us fly. Freely!
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)It's not a popular opinion, but I don't believe my parents' location should determine where I am allowed to live.
LiberalArkie
(18,624 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)Democrats have had disgusting anti-immigration practices for decades, to some extent trying to outdo Trump to win votes by proving we are tough on illegal immigration.
Mihttps://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record
LiberalArkie
(18,624 posts)to where they used to be (Kennedy?) we would win every time.
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)It is never a good idea to try to win by stealing the other side's (bad) ideas. It just turns us into a lesser version of them - and I don't want to be (or vote for) any version of them.
cbabe
(5,271 posts)tulipsandroses
(7,709 posts)Why are we incarcerating people for civil issues. Issue a fine. If you have not paid your fine then you can't be granted another visa.
Exceptions should be made for illnesses and situations out of people's control. If he had Covid or other infectious disease, do you really want him on a plane?
This administration's harsh tactics make no sense. Well, it makes sense for the people profiting. The private prisons and every company that has a contract with these private prisons.
IbogaProject
(4,678 posts)And I got some disdain for suggesting ice may have slowed down releasing or deporting people the final weeks of the Biden administration.
poli-junkie
(1,323 posts)dalton99a
(89,512 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)His medical injury was in October, and his doctors ordered him not to fly for 8-12 weeks. He was planning to leave December 8. The summary makes it seem like he had a fee days notice to seek an extension - when he actually had close to 8 weeks. It isn't clear when he started to seek an extension.
He agreed to be removed on December 17, while Biden was still president for a month . . . So this isn't all on Trump, despite the article focusing on Trump's default to detention over removal.
He referenced a minor engagement with police as the trigger for the initial ICE detention. No description as to what it was. I'm suspicious they is more to this story to have the Biden administration detain him, rather than just grant the voluntary removal.
MineralMan
(149,506 posts)Cost? Maybe $1500.
Keep him in jail for 100 days? Who knows how much that cost?
We are truly stupid. We make the absolute worst decisions and then complain about the decisions we make.
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)Think about it.
Something is fishy here.
MineralMan
(149,506 posts)We, as a nation, often do very stupid things for very stupid reasons. I try not to second guess why that is, but it continues through the years.
Common sense is not highly valued here, I'm afraid.
Ms. Toad
(37,345 posts)I just think that people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones - or at least should not throw stones while pretending their own house is rock solid.
Our (Democratic) policies on immigration have been nearly as bad as Republicans for years - we're just less explicitly racist about it. Trump is a whole other level, but more than 30% of this particular horrendous story is on us. (You could make a reasonable argument that all of it is on us, since had we taken his voluntary removal offer, Trump would not have had a chance to continue the detention once he took office.
malaise
(286,899 posts)ever
Turned down a free ticket from a sibling on the weekend
MineralMan
(149,506 posts)IronLionZion
(49,488 posts)our relatives overseas don't want to come to America because of this shit.
malaise
(286,899 posts)Not worth the bother anymore - tgey can come down here
Botany
(74,802 posts)I wonder if his phone or laptop had a browser history of anti Trump or liberal
discussions?
Trump has his thugs in ICE. I wonder how many are former J-6th members or
part of the 150,000 fired law enforcement officials who Trump had their federal
records expunged.
Not gonna be long till more Americans are picked up, shipped out of the country,
and killed.
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chowder66
(10,988 posts)Thomas and his girlfriend, Malone, were visiting her family in Savannah, Georgia, when Thomas suffered a mental health episode, he and Malone recalled. The two had a conflict in their hotel room and someone overheard it and called the police, they said.
Malone, who requested to use her middle name to protect her boyfriends identity, said she was hoping officers would get him treatment and did not want to see him face criminal charges. But police took him to jail, accusing him of falsely imprisoning his girlfriend in the hotel room, a charge Malone said she did not support. He was soon released on bond, but instead of walking free, was picked up by US immigration authorities, who transported him 100 miles away to an Ice processing center in Folkston, Georgia. The facility is operated by the private prison company Geo Group on behalf of Ice, with capacity to hold more than 1,000 people.
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Malone, his girlfriend, said she plans to move to Ireland to live with him. Its not an option for him to come here and I dont want to be in America anymore, she said.
marble falls
(67,064 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(8,032 posts)he had more due process than was necessary. He agreed to the removal order in December, they should have just removed him then.
Torchlight
(5,165 posts)marble falls
(67,064 posts)Deep State Witch
(12,017 posts)I'm assuming that he was white. This is one of the few times I've heard about them going after white people.