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dalton99a

(89,588 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:08 PM Jul 16

Inside 'Alligator Alcatraz,' detainees report relentless mosquitoes, limited water

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/07/16/alligator-alcatraz-conditions/

Inside ‘Alligator Alcatraz,’ detainees report relentless mosquitoes, limited water
Former guards at the facility cited limited fresh water and clogged toilets among the problems at the remote detention center.
July 16, 2025 at 7:04 p.m. EDT
By Lori Rozsa, David Ovalle and Rachel Hatzipanagos

Two weeks after it opened, a temporary migrant detention center in the Everglades is facing expensive logistical challenges: portable toilets routinely back up, sewage needs to be collected and trucked out, and swarms of mosquitoes attack detainees and staff alike.

Without permanent structures, electricity or running water, drinking and bathing water has to be brought in several times a day but is still in short supply, and rainwater leaks into the tents that protect detainees’ chain-link cells, according to interviews with three former guards and phone interviews with detainees.

Their accounts offer details of conditions inside the $450 million detention center, which has become a symbol for the Trump administration’s aggressive immigration enforcement policies and been dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz” by Republicans. Five other states are considering using the site as a model, said Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem, as Immigration and Customs Enforcement prepares to double the nation’s immigrant detention capacity to 100,000 beds.

Three former guards at the facility said they were attracted to the job because of its pay — online ads and a hiring document reviewed by The Washington Post show they were offered $26 an hour plus generous overtime: $39 an hour.

Prison guards in Florida typically earn about $22 an hour, according to the state’s Department of Corrections.

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$450 million detention center


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Inside 'Alligator Alcatraz,' detainees report relentless mosquitoes, limited water (Original Post) dalton99a Jul 16 OP
Crimes against humanity! vapor2 Jul 16 #1
When it comes to unwilling participants, I'm cynical and even jaded. Igel Jul 17 #15
Trump and Noem find practically unlimited money for cruelty. Most likely kickbacks too. Norrrm Jul 16 #2
IOW Torture they think they can get away with. Cha Jul 16 #3
Considering all the possible deadly diseases and ailments... ananda Jul 17 #4
Literally just wondering about malaria Alice B. Jul 17 #18
Also: typhus, dengue fever, leptospirosis (also known as swamp fever), and pythiosis ananda Jul 17 #19
I don't know who or what we are anymore. Alice B. Jul 17 #20
Monstrous cruelty is really hard to fathom. ananda Jul 17 #21
We don't even hear anything from the U.N. or red cross fujiyamasan Jul 17 #5
So, it's pretty much an annex to Mar-a-Largo... Hugin Jul 17 #6
Gonna be a hotbed canetoad Jul 17 #7
DON'T PANIC! RFK Jr is onnit! - nt GReedDiamond Jul 17 #8
Oh fuck canetoad Jul 17 #11
When the press calls it by that name in quotes BaronChocula Jul 17 #9
I was just about to post something very similar tishaLA Jul 17 #10
Not tangential at ALL BaronChocula Jul 17 #12
See also: Obamacare JonAndKatePlusABird Jul 17 #13
Evidently it is official in Florida dalton99a Jul 17 #16
Also official in florida BaronChocula Jul 17 #22
I predicted malaria, dengue malaise Jul 17 #14
Goes to show me, All Lives Matter was just another bullshit slogan Torchlight Jul 17 #17

Igel

(37,015 posts)
15. When it comes to unwilling participants, I'm cynical and even jaded.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:35 AM
Jul 17

I teach high school. The faculty men's bathrooms aren't locked. A few times a year I walk in and find the toilets overflowing because somebody took a roll of TP, mashed it, and shoved it into the toilet--then took a crap and flushed a couple of times. From time to time during lunch it's meals and utensils.

Probably not a teacher. Or principal. Oh, gee, a lot of the students, esp. resentful, angry young men, don't like being there and take out revenge on the mostly black and brown custodians. Sort of warped sense of justice. The faculty just go a couple hundred extra feet to a bathroom kept locked (but we have keys for).

Any chance there are a lot of angry, resentful men at the detention camp in FL? Except in their case, it probably is guards having to clean up their mess.

Seen it infrequently on airplanes, too, where some idiot just didn't realize that all the he (I'm guessing a 'he') didn't realize that the toilet wasn't a trashcan.

Overflowing, that's a different issue and one that's easy to manage.

Norrrm

(2,522 posts)
2. Trump and Noem find practically unlimited money for cruelty. Most likely kickbacks too.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:47 PM
Jul 16

But not enough money to waste on adequate water?

Cha

(313,258 posts)
3. IOW Torture they think they can get away with.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:54 PM
Jul 16

Fried Orange Traitor needs some Karmic Retribution unloaded on his existence.

ananda

(32,652 posts)
4. Considering all the possible deadly diseases and ailments...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:15 AM
Jul 17

How do they get people to work there?

ananda

(32,652 posts)
19. Also: typhus, dengue fever, leptospirosis (also known as swamp fever), and pythiosis
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jul 17

And probably more.

ananda

(32,652 posts)
21. Monstrous cruelty is really hard to fathom.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jul 17

Especially with this many people on such a large scale.

fujiyamasan

(513 posts)
5. We don't even hear anything from the U.N. or red cross
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:08 AM
Jul 17

Trump knew they could get away with anything.

Hugin

(36,698 posts)
6. So, it's pretty much an annex to Mar-a-Largo...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:15 AM
Jul 17

Except that the taxpayers are picking up the $1M membership fees. Nice!

BaronChocula

(3,033 posts)
9. When the press calls it by that name in quotes
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:51 AM
Jul 17

it's like referring to people by their demographic epithet in quotes. The name Alligator Alcatraz was concocted by an angry, cynical, racist, maga florida AG as a cute little joke. What's happening there is not funny and every time media refers to it by that name gives that hellbound scumbag props.

tishaLA

(14,677 posts)
10. I was just about to post something very similar
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:58 AM
Jul 17

Call it the everglades internment camp or detention center. Journalists too willingly use their discursive paradigms, like the did with the budget bill that's gutting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP. Even our names for it, like big ugly bill or whatever, used the administration's name as a referent.

I know this is somewhat tangential but I feel like the reflexive use of their terminology puts us at an immediate disadvantage.

BaronChocula

(3,033 posts)
22. Also official in florida
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jul 17

- Keeping black people from voting
- Running yourself over with your own car
- Marrying your ex's sibling before before the divorce is final
- Making an insurance claim after your meth lab blows up
- Clip-on rattails

malaise

(287,129 posts)
14. I predicted malaria, dengue
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:43 AM
Jul 17

Last edited Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:30 AM - Edit history (1)

and the mess that will follow a tropical,storm/hurricane.

So nice that ReTHUGs and their financiers are enriching themselves with their concentration camp.

Torchlight

(5,190 posts)
17. Goes to show me, All Lives Matter was just another bullshit slogan
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jul 17

now used only as lining in the litterbox. They're having a tough time this year playing the Sanctimony card as well as the I'd Kill You All If I Could card both in the same hand.

Call.

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