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say the felon craps out before '28. what's a vance presidency look like (Original Post) KG Saturday OP
I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights bucolic_frolic Saturday #1
Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself underpants Saturday #3
Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots... hlthe2b Saturday #8
Pence 2.0. A houseplant that echoes whatever Dear Leader says underpants Saturday #10
I would see no change in course. WarGamer Saturday #2
Policies will be 99% the same Justice Brandeis Saturday #4
VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going. Dulcinea Saturday #21
Same shit different asshole IA8IT Saturday #5
I think worse... TommyT139 Saturday #6
I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating. underpants Saturday #11
This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the Srkdqltr Saturday #7
I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity hlthe2b Saturday #9
He'll dig in on the dictatorship takeover. GoodRaisin Saturday #12
No-Personality Vance won't be able to hold maga together lame54 Saturday #13
Probably not Jilly_in_VA Saturday #14
It'll be a mess. Iggo Saturday #15
I think it might happen sooner than that. chowder66 Saturday #16
one difference imo proud patriot Saturday #17
JD's your basic political meatloaf. He's about as pertinent as Dan Quail was. nt allegorical oracle Saturday #18
Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think? Hekate Saturday #19
Your eggs would then be valued in satoshis (fractions of Bitcoin) nt EarthFirst Saturday #20
There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post... Jack Valentino Saturday #22

bucolic_frolic

(51,491 posts)
1. I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Saturday

mental policy collapse should be expected.

underpants

(191,517 posts)
3. Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:51 PM
Saturday

Mayor Pete said he knew lots of people like that at Harvard (Ivy League).

hlthe2b

(110,693 posts)
8. Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:47 PM
Saturday

JD Vance may not be inherently stupid, but he remains insecure from his early years of dorkiness & bullying-- and is thus readily manipulated.

Justice Brandeis

(87 posts)
4. Policies will be 99% the same
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:11 PM
Saturday

On the one hand, Vance is more disciplined than Trump (that's not saying much), but has at least an average knowledge of public policy that Trump very much lacks.

Trump has tremendous charisma AMONG HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. Vance has nowhere near that same level of magnetism.

Dulcinea

(8,773 posts)
21. VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:56 PM
Saturday

He lacks the Fascist Felon's salesmanship and ability to sway a crowd. Plus, no one likes him. He'll never be able to win an election on his own.

TommyT139

(1,648 posts)
6. I think worse...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:17 PM
Saturday

Mostly because Vance won't make some of the stupid errors that Trump does. He has more self-control, which will help his image. His corruption prior to being VP has only barely come to light, and attention faded quickly. Of course, he had less baggage than Trump, because of his age, and the fact of Peter Thiel sponsoring him.

Finally, he is younger, healthier, with at least two terms legally possible...and all the illegal tactics already in his tool box.

underpants

(191,517 posts)
11. I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:06 PM
Saturday

Vance would bring no full Bro rhetoric too.

JD isn’t anywhere near as flippant, erratic, and flat out stupid as Trump.

Srkdqltr

(8,664 posts)
7. This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:20 PM
Saturday

Question was asked.

hlthe2b

(110,693 posts)
9. I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Saturday

Jilly_in_VA

(12,443 posts)
14. Probably not
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:07 PM
Saturday

But will he have the cojones to get rid of Miller et al? That's the real question. I don't think he has a mind of his own.

Iggo

(49,001 posts)
15. It'll be a mess.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:12 PM
Saturday

A spineless guy totally run by others.

Think Dubya, but dumber and less in charge.

chowder66

(10,980 posts)
16. I think it might happen sooner than that.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:30 PM
Saturday

As for what happens next, I shudder to think.

proud patriot

(102,136 posts)
17. one difference imo
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:34 PM
Saturday

would be that no one really likes vance .

Vance has no cult do to his lack of charisma.

Hekate

(98,582 posts)
19. Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:57 PM
Saturday

Jack Valentino

(2,833 posts)
22. There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:44 PM
Saturday

if Vance were president rather than Trump. That's the best thing I can say about him.


Also, I think he'd be much more rational than Trump on tariff policies---
and quite possibly understand that a tariff is a tax on the American people,
which Trump continues to deny...

As for most everything else, he's your standard right-wing nightmare.

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