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snot

(11,207 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:57 PM Saturday

One more point re- the Epstein case:

Most informed observers believe that Epstein's operation was tolerated for as long as it was because he was amassing info that could be used to blackmail important people into doing or going along with things that they wouldn't otherwise have done or gone along with – potentially treasonously.

If that's true, and there's plenty of reason to be concerned about the possibility, we need not only to prosecute the abusers but also to re-examine which decisions they may have been blackmailed into – and perhaps most importantly, we need to know whether Epstein was the sole blackmailer or whether others were involved, and if so, prosecute all the blackmailers – whether affiliated with our own intel agencies or anyone else.



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One more point re- the Epstein case: (Original Post) snot Saturday OP
This assumes that no prosecutors, judges, law enforcement were involved in the crimes. Irish_Dem Saturday #1
Alex Acosta for one. sop Saturday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Saturday #5
Acosta should be brought to Congress to testify under oath... AntiFascist Saturday #7
So much the more reason snot Saturday #6
Yes but this case keeps getting buried over and over again. Irish_Dem Saturday #10
I hope we have that problem. /nt bucolic_frolic Saturday #2
That would've been a logical form of insurance for him Uncle Joe Saturday #3
Moreover, if info incriminating powerful figures remains secret and in the hands of any blackmailers, snot Saturday #8
As an aside, could it be possible that TSF is desperate, not so much to avoid no_hypocrisy Saturday #9
his fbi raided the island when jeffy was arrested. mopinko Saturday #11
Exactly. snot 10 hrs ago #18
The big mystery about Epstein has always been how big the blackmail operation might be, paulkienitz Saturday #12
Pull every thread. Kid Berwyn Saturday #13
This allegedly went on for many years with many young girls Jarqui Saturday #14
Several have been bought off with secret settlements in lawsuits, snot 10 hrs ago #19
Around 150 women were paid around a million each womanofthehills Saturday #15
Find out who ordered the ' hit ' on Epstein and you'll have all the pieces to the puzzle. Bread and Circuses Saturday #16
Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant Be Leave On Saturday #17
Hedges is brilliant; one of several of our best journalists/commentators snot 10 hrs ago #20

Irish_Dem

(72,427 posts)
1. This assumes that no prosecutors, judges, law enforcement were involved in the crimes.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:00 PM
Saturday

Who have a vested interest in keeping it all buried.

Response to sop (Reply #4)

AntiFascist

(13,528 posts)
7. Acosta should be brought to Congress to testify under oath...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:25 PM
Saturday

about whether someone actually told him that Epstein was "intelligence" and "above his paygrade" and who it was that told him that.

Irish_Dem

(72,427 posts)
10. Yes but this case keeps getting buried over and over again.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:35 PM
Saturday

When Epstein was killed, it was over.

snot

(11,207 posts)
8. Moreover, if info incriminating powerful figures remains secret and in the hands of any blackmailers,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:32 PM
Saturday

it will probably continue to be used for corrupt purposes.

We cannot afford not to aggressively cut this cancer out.

no_hypocrisy

(52,340 posts)
9. As an aside, could it be possible that TSF is desperate, not so much to avoid
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:34 PM
Saturday

accountability with Epstein, but rather to procure that Epstein client list for his own purposes of blackmail? Roy Cohn taught him the benefits of leverage when you have solid evidence for the purposes of manipulation of others via blackmail.

mopinko

(72,788 posts)
11. his fbi raided the island when jeffy was arrested.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:48 PM
Saturday

and afaik, no 1 has ever seen any of that evidence.

snot

(11,207 posts)
18. Exactly.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:23 PM
10 hrs ago

Allowing the dirt to remain secret (if it exists, and the way the evidence has been handled suggests it does) in ANYONE's hands means that we're trusting that person or entity not to use it ––– I hope we're not that naive.

paulkienitz

(1,452 posts)
12. The big mystery about Epstein has always been how big the blackmail operation might be,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:47 PM
Saturday

and whether he was a lone gunman or working on behalf of some agency or agencies.

Jarqui

(10,697 posts)
14. This allegedly went on for many years with many young girls
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:57 PM
Saturday

Beyond Epstein - MeidasTouch uncovered more from 1991 beauty pageants, etc



Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of constantly recruiting girls for years.

With so many young girls assaulted/abused, how are they keeping this so quiet. A few have spoken up but with that many, you'd think more would come forward over time.

Law enforcement must know so much more.

The corruption must run very wide and deep.

snot

(11,207 posts)
19. Several have been bought off with secret settlements in lawsuits,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:25 PM
10 hrs ago

while the most assertive of them, Virginia Giuffre, "suicided" at age 41.

One might assume that others were bought off without having gotten to the point of filing suit.

womanofthehills

(10,007 posts)
15. Around 150 women were paid around a million each
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:11 PM
Saturday

Out of Jeffrey’s compensation fund estate. Around another 100 didn’t qualify for compensation.

I bet a keep quiet clause was in there.

Be Leave On

(252 posts)
17. Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:45 PM
Saturday

In this hour-long video, Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant, who is the journalist and author who first published Jeffrey Epstein’s infamous “black book” in 2015 as well as Epstein’s flight logs.

https://popularresistance.org/chris-hedges-report-jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-and-sexual-blackmail-networks/

snot

(11,207 posts)
20. Hedges is brilliant; one of several of our best journalists/commentators
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:29 PM
10 hrs ago

who have been pushed out of the MSM (e.g., Seymour Hersch, John Pilger, Aaron Mate...).

Hedges was the NYT's Middle East Bureau chief, among his many other accomplishments, but was pushed out after he criticized the 2003 invasion of Iraq in a college commencement speech.

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