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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn-N-Out billionaire Lynsi Snyder says she is leaving California: 'Doing business is not easy here'
Speaking on the "Relatable" podcast released Friday, Snyder said she's moving to Tennessee as the cult burger chain plans its southeastern expansion and establishes a new headquarters in the suburbs outside Nashville.
"There's a lot of great things about California, but raising a family is not easy here. Doing business is not easy here," Snyder said.
During the conversation with host Allie Beth Stuckey, Snyder cited COVID-era business restrictions, such as mask mandates and vaccine requirements, as particular elements of California policy that made it difficult to operate in the state.
In 2021, health officials temporarily shut down several In-N-Out locations in California because the chain refused to require proof of COVID-19 vaccinations.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/n-billionaire-lynsi-snyder-says-222627257.html

Lovie777
(19,363 posts)are you closing up here in California?
Johonny
(24,179 posts)Tarzanrock
(1,197 posts)She can take her over-priced, lousy hamburger stands with her. The South deserves In-N-Out hamburgers. It's a good match for their Chicken Filet Shit.
Renew Deal
(84,270 posts)In n out is popular in California for a reason.
awesomerwb1
(4,801 posts)they're actually on the cheap side. And quite tasty and fresh.
I love In n out maybe 4 times a year.
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Hekate
(98,582 posts)InNOut makes a good burger and fries, has a clean reputation I just cant eat there except rarely because of my high cholesterol.
Back in college in the 1960s one of my guy-friends was absolutely devoted to them, and I think the local was the founding restaurant. This woman certainly has the right to leave the state in a snit, but I think shes a fool jmho.
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Oeditpus Rex
(42,103 posts)how are they "hidden"?
Irish_Dem
(72,438 posts)So the religious messages are placed in a location which is not readily or easily seen.
Hence the feeling it is being hidden.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,103 posts)and don't give a rat's ass. Nothing I'm aware of about In-N-Out's religion is in my face, so I'll enjoy the Double Double with no thought to what's on the bottom of the cup, out of my vision.
Aristus
(70,416 posts)on fast food wrappers that will get grease and condiments on them, and which will then be thrown in the trash.
Real reverence there
Igel
(36,980 posts)Burning a Bible is viewed not as destroying God's word but just being intentionally offensive--instead of assaulting you, they burn something you value. Like burning the flag.
Old guard Muslims treat the matter the words are printed on as somehow not to be abused, with prescribed ways to show respect.
At least some Orthodox Jews (and I'd assume Hasidim) are about the same: You store old Torah scrolls (and other things) in a geniza until they can be properly interred. It's because of that practice that the Cairo Geniza existed--the source for a lot of old Torah and Jewish texts.
Most Xians don't care--can't speak for all sects, all ages, but that's my experience. Don't disrespect it, but if a cat pees on it, just throw it in the trash. If my Bible had gotten trashed, I'd have missed it but could buy a new one easily enough. If they keep an old Bible it's usually out of sentimental value. I have an old Czech one printed in 1915, bought in an antikvariat in either Prague or Brno. Thought I could use it--now have decided the pages can't take the wear and tear of a non-native's reading it. It belonged to one Karel Vaculik. First page lists Karel's family and birthdates/baptism dates. Father born in 1879, mother in 1881. 6 kids. Glued-in picture, mother/father and 5 kids--don't know if the picture's pre-kid-#6 or one of them died. . And there's an extra woman in the pic, unidentified--aunt, nanny?
Jacoby365
(504 posts)If it's so hard to do business in California, shut the In-n-Outs down.
Lovie777
(19,363 posts)the Rwers bash California, constantly, but with 40 million here, like musk, and Toyota, bigly monies is made here for them.
JI7
(92,332 posts)and rely on red states to make money.
Initech
(105,672 posts)
Skittles
(166,079 posts)NOT a fan
Horse with no Name
(34,176 posts)Its my least favorite fast food burger
Igel
(36,980 posts)It opened and messed with traffic for weeks--line out the door and around the block.
Finally had one in Austin a couple of decades later. The kids in the youth group I was helping to shepherd insisted on going and raved on about it. Demanded, a year during the annual mock legislature that the statewide org holds in the TX Statehouse, that they go back.
Nope. Not a fan.
Five Guys, sure. (Current favorite dinery is Urban Bird, mostly Houston but scattered in suburbs around points from Houston to Killeen to San Antonio. Organic halal hot chicken.)
Initech
(105,672 posts)
Midnight Writer
(24,369 posts)JI7
(92,332 posts)zorbasd
(442 posts)main headquarters from CA to TN, just like Musk did from CA to TX.
No way is she going to close stores in CA, she'll go bankrupt, just as Musk is, as Calis are rejecting Teslas...
BootinUp
(50,098 posts)cadoman
(1,484 posts)For me, mask and vaccine (and ideally, ventilation) mandates make me more likely to go out and do business. I'm disgusted at how lax people have become about COVID-19, and grateful for whatever business do still encourage masking and consideration for at-risk persons.
Strange that this fascist would consider such policy a bug rather than a feature.
oasis
(52,497 posts)
LS0999
(221 posts)Doesn't sound that it was that hard to do business. There really needs to be a ceiling on personal and corporate wealth.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,034 posts)Bible verses on the cups and GIT!
kacekwl
(8,472 posts)says the billionaire who is a billionaire by doing business there.
AllaN01Bear
(26,495 posts)Igel
(36,980 posts)Or may California, to be honest.
If In-N-Out has HQ in California, then it must pay income tax on out-of-state revenue equal to what California would charge in-state corporations. That's weirdly worded on purpose. If TN charges 5% income tax (no clue what they charge) and California charges 10%, with different things deductible, then they pay taxes in TN per TX law. Then, in California, they have to report what they paid, reconcile deductions with California law, and pay what they'd have to pay in California if all their revenue was in-state. California is a notoriously high-tax, esp. high-corporate tax, state--certainly not currently the highest in the US, but higher than most. Currently it's 8.84%. TN's is 6.5%.
California has a new corporate tax law that takes effect starting in 2026, payable in 2027, and that tax rate is set to increase--to help small businesses but also increase state revenue. "Its new Franklin, Tennessee headquarters is set to open in 2026." Moving the headquarters will give at least a 2.84% tax break on out-of-California revenue. If In-N-Out projects more revenue from outside of California, more will fall under that rubric.
Note that she's not moving the HQ to a 0% corporate tax state.
AllaN01Bear
(26,495 posts)Oeditpus Rex
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she can pay her minions $7.25 per hour instead of $20 in California. Will she lower the prices of the food? Doubt it.
(I love In-N-Out cheeseburgers, but they're salty as hell. Sat once with a guy who ate two Double Doubles and said he'd once eaten four. He was built like me, too -- six feet, maybe 160 pounds.)
AllaN01Bear
(26,495 posts)used to be able to do that . mary took nephew there for lunch when he was little .. no toys. still dont want to pay a fair wage eh?
Pachamama
(17,378 posts)But I guess she cant make California bow to her beliefs of how they should believe.
Initech
(105,672 posts)
DBoon
(23,969 posts)and all she cares about is the inconvenience of masking and getting vaccines
._.
(1,510 posts)Cry me a river. She should open one in Hell, and personally run it.
GoneOffShore
(17,852 posts)And there aren't any of their franchises in France.
Melon
(569 posts)Im on board with her there. The burgers are good and there prices didnt go up as much as other chains.
Liberal In Texas
(15,412 posts)I have a pretty good idea who's stupid.
Mysterian
(5,771 posts)Thanks.
Irish_Dem
(72,438 posts)Too hard to work and too hard to raise her family on a vast fortune.
And hates the state of California which made her this rich.
Maybe she should try making ends meet on minimum wage.
indusurb
(163 posts)The rest is just blather.
Liberal In Texas
(15,412 posts)The herd mentality of people queued up for not-so-great fast food made the cult thing flourish.
It pretty much only took me one visit to realize that this was an over-hyped mania bubble.
Blue Full Moon
(2,454 posts)Seems like they were always in the news because they made people sick.
PennRalphie
(430 posts)I dont know how many of you have been to Nashville recently, but the city is growing. Due to people moving there, mainly from the West Coast. Nashville isnt all Kid Rock.
The Mayor of Nashville is a Democrat. Hes welcoming people to his city.
LogDog75
(640 posts)is In-N--Out Burger so successful in California.
If it's about how it's not easy to raise children in California then how come so many middle and low income can do it?
Maybe, Lynsi, just maybe the problem isn't California but you.