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Pototan

(2,737 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:29 AM 19 hrs ago

About that 28% Dem favorable

that the MSM is shouting about. The headline number makes the Dems seem unpopular. Well, the facts say a different story. That 28% doesn't mean the MAGAts are supported by Dems. In fact, every special and scheduled off year election has the Dems overperforming by substantial numbers. The fact that Dems are 22% more enthused to vote than the Reps says more to me.

Anybody paying attention knows that the average Democratic voter is disappointed that the elected Dems are not fighting hard enough AGAINST MAGA. I understand that being in the minority in every branch of government, the Presidency, the Senate, the House and even the Supreme Court makes opposition range from difficult to impossible.

That being said, if the Dems win at least the House and they don't take dramatic action by calling hearings and sending out subpoenas, then I will acknowledge that there is no excuse. But in the meantime, our job is to elect as many Democrats as we can. Progressive Democrats, Liberal Democrats, Moderate Democrats, it doesn't matter. Whoever is nominated deserves our support. Let's nominate Dems who best reflect their districts or state. If a candidate is going to caucus with the Dems, that's good enough for me.

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About that 28% Dem favorable (Original Post) Pototan 19 hrs ago OP
Yes, approval figures are misleading Terry_M 19 hrs ago #1
Our job is multi-part. We must not rely on legislators to solve our problems. ck4829 19 hrs ago #2
Especially that last one! pazzyanne 18 hrs ago #8
A Simple Explanation: Chasstev365 19 hrs ago #3
The left-wing media is also a problem. They tell us that it is all about Trump's abuses, everyonematters 18 hrs ago #6
What "left-wing media?" Mysterian 16 hrs ago #15
There are a lot of people out there struggling to make ends meet. A lot of them don't trust either party to make a everyonematters 18 hrs ago #4
And even with that.................. Lovie777 18 hrs ago #5
I'm not worried about Dems. The MSM love to bash Dems and it's always an uphill battle LymphocyteLover 18 hrs ago #7
So let's compare Dave Id 18 hrs ago #9
Positive attitude rambler68 17 hrs ago #10
Who sponsored the poll? What were the questions? druidity33 17 hrs ago #11
These polls are consistent with each other Pototan 17 hrs ago #12
some of the numbers Celerity 15 hrs ago #17
Thanks for that. druidity33 7 hrs ago #19
Yes, the link to the poll was in the article of the post I replied to. Celerity 7 hrs ago #20
Honestly... druidity33 7 hrs ago #18
True, voter enthusiasm beats popularity, dema need a good message uponit7771 17 hrs ago #13
For me.... it is propaganda right wing, billionaire media crap. FarPoint 16 hrs ago #14
K&R spanone 16 hrs ago #16

Terry_M

(805 posts)
1. Yes, approval figures are misleading
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:41 AM
19 hrs ago

Democrats will do well in 2026 because of Trump pushback. Because 'Trump Bad' messaging will work. Disappointed democrats responding negatively about approval of the party in polls will still show up and vote despite their disapproval.
In 2026 democrats will NOT do well because they have presented a coherent message of exactly how they will do good for swing and soft voters. They will NOT do well because their leaders have figured out how to talk to people.

If the leaders don't figure out a coherent message that speaks to swing voters and soft democrats, and if our leaders are not replaced or do not learn how to speak to those people, 2028 will go poorly because 'Trump Bad' as a central message will not work at that point.

ck4829

(36,998 posts)
2. Our job is multi-part. We must not rely on legislators to solve our problems.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:50 AM
19 hrs ago

Advocate for jury nullification against Republican laws.

Call out the extremism of absurd medical bills.

“Ask your doctor if universal healthcare is right for you” is a symbol we should be spreading about as well.

Jobs that were in ICE detention camps were flagged as inappropriate by us.

And we must agree that we can not pass problems off for future generations to solve.

pazzyanne

(6,700 posts)
8. Especially that last one!
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:15 AM
18 hrs ago

"And we must agree that we can not pass problems off for future generations to solve."

Chasstev365

(5,746 posts)
3. A Simple Explanation:
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:53 AM
19 hrs ago

When you have mostly corporate owned media, an entire network (Fox) that lies about Democrats 24/7, a ratio of 10/1 rightwing hate radio to every leftwing radio programming, and frankly, a political that really needs to work on its messaging, is anyone surprised?

everyonematters

(3,870 posts)
6. The left-wing media is also a problem. They tell us that it is all about Trump's abuses,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:12 AM
18 hrs ago

and not about the people who are struggling to make ends meet. The result is a base that is obsessed about Trump, and not concentrating on economic issues, unless it is how Trump's policies are affecting people. This is good for ratings, and it does not make the corporate sponsors nervous. We can break through and become the dominate party if we get with reality.

everyonematters

(3,870 posts)
4. There are a lot of people out there struggling to make ends meet. A lot of them don't trust either party to make a
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:01 AM
18 hrs ago

difference in their lives. That's why we are trading elections with the Republicans as voters, in their minds, are voting for the lesser of two evils. There is a reason why 40% of voters are not registered as Democrats or Republicans. We need to earn voters trust that we are going to make a difference in their lives.

Lovie777

(19,363 posts)
5. And even with that..................
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:06 AM
18 hrs ago

Democrats are doing quite well in elections across the country.

I'll go with that. Plus Republicans rarely spout about the unfavorable numbers about their party, and this includes the fucked up corporate media.

Even shithole is hated in large numbers.

LymphocyteLover

(8,347 posts)
7. I'm not worried about Dems. The MSM love to bash Dems and it's always an uphill battle
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:13 AM
18 hrs ago

because of their biased coverage against Dems.

I'm sure enough people realize Dems need to take back control of the House for us to do it. If we can't do ti under these horrible circumstances, with this horrible POTUS, then the country is screwed for decades if not forever.

druidity33

(6,787 posts)
11. Who sponsored the poll? What were the questions?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:17 AM
17 hrs ago

How many people were asked these questions? What were the demographics of the polled group? Did they release the raw data from the poll?

This is the first I've heard of this "28%" number.


Pototan

(2,737 posts)
12. These polls are consistent with each other
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:45 AM
17 hrs ago

I'm sorry but I believe most of these credible polls. I know how to week=d out the phony ones (Rasmussen and RMG). The polls may be off 4 or 5%, but the CNN, FOX News and NY Times are pretty accurate.

Here's the Poll from CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/17/politics/democrats-republicans-midterms-poll

druidity33

(6,787 posts)
19. Thanks for that.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:44 PM
7 hrs ago

The dot-matrix printout look really takes me back. Makes it irritating to scan though. Did you find a link to the survey in the article? If not, how did you find it? Cheers.

druidity33

(6,787 posts)
18. Honestly...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:34 PM
7 hrs ago

my takeaway after looking at that poll was the D 72% v R 49% "extremely motivated to vote in the next election" tab. I think a lot of Democrats probably responded to that poll honestly... they are unhappy with Democrats. That doesn't mean they aren't going to vote for them. That's why i prefer looking at the questions asked by the pollster (i didn't see a link to the actual poll or the phrasing of the questions in the link you offered). Also the sampling error is a relatively high 8.3%.



FarPoint

(14,109 posts)
14. For me.... it is propaganda right wing, billionaire media crap.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:20 AM
16 hrs ago

I am way past my frustration level.....

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