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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre you tired of hearing about the Epstein files?
We'll never know what's in them.

At this point the contents of said "file" are of less importance than the public conversation.
Pedophilia is a heinous crime. Perps need to be called out, and brought to justice.
So the conversation is a useful moral corrective, especially for the republicons who have sacrificed their honor around this evil (obviously) shit.
viva la
(4,184 posts)Knowing how much it's infuriating Trump.
creon
(1,744 posts)It is good media hype. Idle hands are the Devil's workshop
It gives the MSM something to yap about.
Emile
(35,979 posts)zanana1
(6,400 posts)But don't we know enough about Trump and his ability to cover things up? I feel like I'm back in the Nixon days and hoping to find out what's on that missing 20 minutes of tape.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,887 posts)Inquiring minds would like to know MORE!
Easterncedar
(4,724 posts)I dont need to read any more, myself, but if it bothers the orange one and his cult, why not keep poking them?
Duncanpup
(14,844 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,143 posts)Let it play out. There is "there there".
demmiblue
(38,558 posts)mucifer
(25,251 posts)we here at DU do. But, it seems the general public isn't noticing we are losing our right and the checks and balances of our government.
Yeah, it would be nice if the epstein horrors take down trump. But, that wouldn't stop the republicans on their way to destroy our beloved country.
Scrivener7
(56,469 posts)themaguffin
(4,531 posts)Paladin
(31,061 posts)marble falls
(67,028 posts)malaise
(286,719 posts)That is all
sop
(15,209 posts)uponit7771
(93,091 posts)EllieBC
(3,519 posts)trafficked get in the way of some other story youd prefer people talked about?
If yes then thats part of why theres trafficking happening so easily in the first place.
Let the files be shown. Doesnt matter who is on them. Whatever happens after must happen.
chicoescuela
(2,129 posts)PJMcK
(23,934 posts)Too important to be tired of, too important to let go of.
Jacson6
(1,429 posts)I just block topics and ignore posters that harp on and on about it.
bluestarone
(19,948 posts)TSF bleeds a little every time he hears it. I KNOW it pisses him off every time!
CentralMass
(16,311 posts)Deuxcents
(23,089 posts)spanone
(139,648 posts)Martin Eden
(14,621 posts)What remains to be seen is how much of it is leaked, and to what degree the maga base becomes disillusioned with their orange god.
Of course, Hair Twitler's declining health is a wild card in this saga.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,314 posts)Ocelot II
(126,051 posts)We might never know everything that's in them, but the real bone of contention is the fact that Trump repeatedly promised to release them and then all of a sudden AG Barbie, who does exactly what Trump tells her, announces that there's no "client list" and nothing to release, and that Epstein committed suicide. MAGA's favorite conspiracy theory just went up in smoke, and they have a big mad. Of course, anybody who denies the existence of a conspiracy automatically becomes part of it, so now Bondi Barbie and Trump are among the co-conspirators. This thing has more legs than a centipede.
H2O Man
(77,373 posts)The Madcap
(1,317 posts)I want the disgusting truth to be shown nationwide in pictures while protecting the identities of the minors involved. They can also blur the naughty bits, but make it obvious what's going on.
raccoon
(31,950 posts)H2O Man
(77,373 posts)Maybe they are trying to distract us from learning about the felon's crimes by focusing our attention on documentation of those crimes? Or if not that, maybe distracting the maga cult by focusing attention on the Epstein files because they document the lies that the felon campaigned on? I mean, even the felon has said focus on the Epstein files is a waste of time. They don't even exist. Maybe we should trust the felon's lies about his lies? Maybe we should seek the safety found in burying our heads in the sand, rather than being distracted by reality.
raccoon
(31,950 posts)Everyone seemed to accept that and just go along with it.
Why is everyone so worked up about it now?
Kaleva
(39,650 posts)Peoples, especially MAGAs, expectations were raised.
H2O Man
(77,373 posts)I think because the felon & fiends had campaigned on his being the only person who could defeat the secret society raping and killing children. The cult believed that. Supporting him was a big part of their identity. Now that he is president again, he could release them. The felon's claim that there are no files makes for the first time that many maga cult members do not believe him.
Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson are both saying the felon is now part of the "deep state." Keep in mind that both view the felon as entering the lame duck phase of his second term. (I think that happens after the mid-terms, but they both see cracks.) Keep in mind that both think they should be president.
Vogon_Glory
(9,984 posts)And those powerful men diddling adolescent girls ought to be exposed.
TnDem
(1,079 posts)Why wasn't anything released during Biden's term?
That's telling, and I think because this thing will end up cutting both ways.
Vinca
(52,393 posts)maybe taint the image of the presidency. Reminds me of Jerry Ford pardoning Nixon. Shame Biden didn't release it, but this is not unusual since Democrats have a way of playing nice when they should be throwing hardballs. We've got to give as good as we get.
TnDem
(1,079 posts)Too much juicy info if only trump were involved...Common sense will tell you, (and the sheer number of people involved over the decades), it's not all Republicans that were involved with this sleazebag,
Occam's razor and all.
ChrisW001
(3 posts)What has Hunter Biden been doing for the last decade? President Biden kept insisting he won't pardon Hunter and then changes his mind at the last minute! If Hunter's on the list, then he doesn't get punished for anything because he was pardoned by his father! Then you have to ask why President Biden knew about this and didn't do anything about anybody else? We're ignoring a lot of problems just to keep attacking Trump!
Here's an even scarier thought, what if Trump was just someone around there like Bill Clinton? Trump hangs out with Epstein, Bill Clinton hangs out with Epstein, Bill and Hillary go to Trump and Melania's wedding. What if there's really nothing going on there but by attacking them, we're setting up Hunter and Joe Biden?
This just looks like a huge trap. If I had that Admiral Ackbar meme handy, I'd be posting it everywhere.
republianmushroom
(20,674 posts)Old time politician was/is Joe Biden.
Hornedfrog2000
(369 posts)We needed to tear the bandaid for the country
H2O Man
(77,373 posts)It would have lessened the presidency for him to order the DOJ to release files with names of people not being charged. Double so if it is about a political opponent. I saddened to see Democrats who have zero grasp that post-Watergate, everyone agreed that the DOJ should be kept away from a president's agenda. One of the responsibilities of citizenship is being educated to the point where simple questions are already answered.
Quiet Em
(2,093 posts)All those documents and files were procured during the con artist's first term. That's when Epstein was charged, incarcerated and died.
So trying to push this as "why didn't Biden release it" is a distraction from the con artist. Releasing them was the con's promise.
I have no doubt there are many prominent men implicated in this, world wide. I would like to hope that some of it, the money laundering, is still under investigation. And there are men who know which men sexually assaulted and sexually abused 13 and 14 year old girls. The con artist is the one running scared now. Not Joe Biden.
Kaleva
(39,650 posts)What we know now is all there is to know.
Vinca
(52,393 posts)pick up juicy tidbits here and there and crank things up even more. A compromising photo would be good.
allegorical oracle
(5,371 posts)fresh information emerges I'll be happy, again.
Quiet Em
(2,093 posts)And I hope every man who participated in this remains paranoid and frightened that they can be outed at any time.
BootinUp
(50,098 posts)Don't stop until his political career and that of his family and associates are all dead.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,940 posts)Furthermore, I recommend that everyone let their senator and representative know that if they do not support a thorough investigation, you will support their challenger in the primary and their opponent in the general election.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
cadoman
(1,484 posts)Pam Bondi didn't prosecute his network while she was in Florida, what motivation would she have to do so now?
We need to keep the pressure up. If TFG is covering for Epstein it is impeachable and it won't have 100% MAGAt support, but it will be enough to get him out of office.
oasis
(52,496 posts)
usonian
(19,138 posts)
(sarcasm)
Brainfodder
(7,530 posts)
Ken Dayenu
(79 posts)I hold a similar cynical view, but I'm enjoying sitting back, having some popcorn, and watching MAGATs attack Trump.
It would be nice if everybody have sex with minors was exposed, but I'm keeping my expectations very low.
kimbutgar
(25,564 posts)And keep poking that big stick at the orange Hitler !
To the point he loses it biggly
JustAnotherGen
(35,678 posts)For them to bring up that the files are in Hunter Biden's laptop. I'm enjoying the pardons crash out.
Clots and Prayers!
YodaMom2
(97 posts)What I cant get enough of, though, is how its got Corpulent Caligula freaking right the #%@& out. That Im enjoying immensely.
JustAnotherGen
(35,678 posts)It's a wonderful Cultural Bludgeon
taxi
(2,400 posts)If there is one thing we can thank that worthless piece of crap for it would be for his attack on Murdoch and the WSJ. Hopefully the WSJ and Murdoch's tentacles will keep this in the headlines for a long, long time.
republianmushroom
(20,674 posts)taxi
(2,400 posts)On the other hand, well, obviously we here have no intention of throwing in the towel!
Norrrm
(2,421 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(177,963 posts)choie
(5,832 posts)kennyperkins
(49 posts)It has to come out, unfortunely I dont think the media has the heart to do so.
GrapesOfWrath
(543 posts)Not even close