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Are you tired of hearing about the Epstein files? (Original Post) zanana1 17 hrs ago OP
No BoRaGard 17 hrs ago #1
I can't get enough.... viva la 17 hrs ago #2
not yet creon 17 hrs ago #3
I want these rich pedophiles outed! Emile 17 hrs ago #4
I want them ousted, too. zanana1 17 hrs ago #5
NO! I am like the National Inquirer... ProudMNDemocrat 17 hrs ago #6
Nope. Let it drive the magatry mad Easterncedar 16 hrs ago #7
No. Duncanpup 16 hrs ago #8
More defeatism. In 1973, people said they were tired of hearing about Watergate. In 74 Nixon resigned Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #9
No. writerJT 16 hrs ago #10
No. n/t demmiblue 16 hrs ago #11
I would prefer if the public cared more about what we are losing in the USA. I know mucifer 16 hrs ago #12
Not even close. I hope it dominates every news cycle till we are rid of Cankles. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #13
Regardless if we ever know, if the topic can be used politically, then I'll never be tired of it. themaguffin 16 hrs ago #14
I want to hear about them, every day for the rest of my life. (nt) Paladin 16 hrs ago #15
NO! They'll be able to drag it out only so long. I'm not rolling over just so they can roll me. marble falls 16 hrs ago #16
NO malaise 16 hrs ago #17
I'm tired of all the delays, the Epstein horror show should have been investigted and prosecuted years ago. sop 16 hrs ago #18
Few are tired of the files just MAGA deflections and lies uponit7771 16 hrs ago #19
No. Does the truth about children being EllieBC 16 hrs ago #20
Nope chicoescuela 15 hrs ago #21
Nope (n/t) PJMcK 15 hrs ago #22
No WiVoter 15 hrs ago #23
I could care less about a dead pederast and his girl friend. Jacson6 15 hrs ago #24
NO. bluestarone 15 hrs ago #25
I agree that they will never see the light of day. CentralMass 15 hrs ago #26
NO Deuxcents 15 hrs ago #27
NO. Let it Rain spanone 15 hrs ago #28
This administration will NOT release the files. Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #29
NOPE Ferrets are Cool 15 hrs ago #30
No. More importantly, MAGA isn't tired of hearing about them. Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #31
No H2O Man 15 hrs ago #32
No. The Madcap 15 hrs ago #33
What are they trying to distract us from? raccoon 15 hrs ago #34
Um, the Epstein files? H2O Man 14 hrs ago #37
But why now? That's what I'd like to know. It's been known for ages that he was palsy walsy with Epstein. raccoon 14 hrs ago #42
AG Bondi oversold the release earlier this year Kaleva 14 hrs ago #48
Fair question. H2O Man 53 min ago #67
No, I think Donald John's relations with Epstein deserve the thorough airing they've never gotten Vogon_Glory 14 hrs ago #35
My question is this TnDem 14 hrs ago #36
You know why? Because Joe is a traditional politician and probably thought it would influence the election or Vinca 14 hrs ago #39
I don't believe it TnDem 14 hrs ago #41
It's a trap!!! ChrisW001 12 hrs ago #65
I believe you to be correct. republianmushroom 13 hrs ago #60
Joe was wrong Hornedfrog2000 12 hrs ago #64
Great answer. H2O Man 43 min ago #68
The con artist was the one who campaigned on releasing the Epstein documents and files Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #43
There might not be anything to it Kaleva 14 hrs ago #50
Nope. If this is what it takes to get MAGA to dump him, I'll listen to it. I'm hoping other news outlets will Vinca 14 hrs ago #38
I am insofar as nothing new has been produced. Old news starts smelling stale. Once some allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #40
No. Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #44
They say politics is a blood sport. BootinUp 14 hrs ago #45
Absolutely not TexasBushwhacker 14 hrs ago #46
the prosecution can't be trusted -- the public must demand accountability cadoman 14 hrs ago #47
No.The more Trump is annoyed by it, the better. oasis 14 hrs ago #49
I'm so tired of it that I took out a billboard "It's time to forget all about Epstein" usonian 13 hrs ago #51
No, this is as good as The Boys from Amazon, the finale and aftermath are going to be the best to that point! Brainfodder 13 hrs ago #52
We will never know what is in them Ken Dayenu 13 hrs ago #53
No everyday we must bring it up ! kimbutgar 13 hrs ago #54
I'm waiting JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #57
At this point, I almost don't care what's in them. YodaMom2 13 hrs ago #55
Nope JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #56
NONBHN - Not only no but hell no! taxi 13 hrs ago #58
I share your apinion. republianmushroom 13 hrs ago #61
Thank you. There are so many of his supporters who accept the whitewashing without question. taxi 12 hrs ago #66
NO! Keep at it. Norrrm 13 hrs ago #59
Nope. greatauntoftriplets 13 hrs ago #62
Not until they destroy the orange madman. choie 12 hrs ago #63
It has to be kept in the news kennyperkins 32 min ago #69
Not at all GrapesOfWrath 25 min ago #70
NO. Not with over a thousand underage victims. NEVER. /nt artemisia1 7 min ago #71

BoRaGard

(6,373 posts)
1. No
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:28 AM
17 hrs ago

At this point the contents of said "file" are of less importance than the public conversation.

Pedophilia is a heinous crime. Perps need to be called out, and brought to justice.

So the conversation is a useful moral corrective, especially for the republicons who have sacrificed their honor around this evil (obviously) shit.

creon

(1,744 posts)
3. not yet
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:29 AM
17 hrs ago

It is good media hype. Idle hands are the Devil's workshop
It gives the MSM something to yap about.

zanana1

(6,400 posts)
5. I want them ousted, too.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:38 AM
17 hrs ago

But don't we know enough about Trump and his ability to cover things up? I feel like I'm back in the Nixon days and hoping to find out what's on that missing 20 minutes of tape.

Easterncedar

(4,724 posts)
7. Nope. Let it drive the magatry mad
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:50 AM
16 hrs ago

I don’t need to read any more, myself, but if it bothers the orange one and his cult, why not keep poking them?

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,143 posts)
9. More defeatism. In 1973, people said they were tired of hearing about Watergate. In 74 Nixon resigned
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:00 AM
16 hrs ago

Let it play out. There is "there there".

mucifer

(25,251 posts)
12. I would prefer if the public cared more about what we are losing in the USA. I know
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:05 AM
16 hrs ago

we here at DU do. But, it seems the general public isn't noticing we are losing our right and the checks and balances of our government.

Yeah, it would be nice if the epstein horrors take down trump. But, that wouldn't stop the republicans on their way to destroy our beloved country.

themaguffin

(4,531 posts)
14. Regardless if we ever know, if the topic can be used politically, then I'll never be tired of it.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:10 AM
16 hrs ago

marble falls

(67,028 posts)
16. NO! They'll be able to drag it out only so long. I'm not rolling over just so they can roll me.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:15 AM
16 hrs ago

sop

(15,209 posts)
18. I'm tired of all the delays, the Epstein horror show should have been investigted and prosecuted years ago.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:36 AM
16 hrs ago

EllieBC

(3,519 posts)
20. No. Does the truth about children being
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:46 AM
16 hrs ago

trafficked get in the way of some other story you’d prefer people talked about?

If yes then that’s part of why there’s trafficking happening so easily in the first place.

Let the files be shown. Doesn’t matter who is on them. Whatever happens after must happen.

Jacson6

(1,429 posts)
24. I could care less about a dead pederast and his girl friend.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:27 AM
15 hrs ago

I just block topics and ignore posters that harp on and on about it.

Martin Eden

(14,621 posts)
29. This administration will NOT release the files.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:36 AM
15 hrs ago

What remains to be seen is how much of it is leaked, and to what degree the maga base becomes disillusioned with their orange god.

Of course, Hair Twitler's declining health is a wild card in this saga.

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
31. No. More importantly, MAGA isn't tired of hearing about them.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:38 AM
15 hrs ago

We might never know everything that's in them, but the real bone of contention is the fact that Trump repeatedly promised to release them and then all of a sudden AG Barbie, who does exactly what Trump tells her, announces that there's no "client list" and nothing to release, and that Epstein committed suicide. MAGA's favorite conspiracy theory just went up in smoke, and they have a big mad. Of course, anybody who denies the existence of a conspiracy automatically becomes part of it, so now Bondi Barbie and Trump are among the co-conspirators. This thing has more legs than a centipede.

The Madcap

(1,317 posts)
33. No.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:43 AM
15 hrs ago

I want the disgusting truth to be shown nationwide in pictures while protecting the identities of the minors involved. They can also blur the naughty bits, but make it obvious what's going on.

H2O Man

(77,373 posts)
37. Um, the Epstein files?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

Maybe they are trying to distract us from learning about the felon's crimes by focusing our attention on documentation of those crimes? Or if not that, maybe distracting the maga cult by focusing attention on the Epstein files because they document the lies that the felon campaigned on? I mean, even the felon has said focus on the Epstein files is a waste of time. They don't even exist. Maybe we should trust the felon's lies about his lies? Maybe we should seek the safety found in burying our heads in the sand, rather than being distracted by reality.

raccoon

(31,950 posts)
42. But why now? That's what I'd like to know. It's been known for ages that he was palsy walsy with Epstein.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:15 AM
14 hrs ago

Everyone seemed to accept that and just go along with it.

Why is everyone so worked up about it now?

Kaleva

(39,650 posts)
48. AG Bondi oversold the release earlier this year
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:43 AM
14 hrs ago

People’s, especially MAGAs, expectations were raised.

H2O Man

(77,373 posts)
67. Fair question.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:55 AM
53 min ago

I think because the felon & fiends had campaigned on his being the only person who could defeat the secret society raping and killing children. The cult believed that. Supporting him was a big part of their identity. Now that he is president again, he could release them. The felon's claim that there are no files makes for the first time that many maga cult members do not believe him.

Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson are both saying the felon is now part of the "deep state." Keep in mind that both view the felon as entering the lame duck phase of his second term. (I think that happens after the mid-terms, but they both see cracks.) Keep in mind that both think they should be president.

Vogon_Glory

(9,984 posts)
35. No, I think Donald John's relations with Epstein deserve the thorough airing they've never gotten
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 AM
14 hrs ago

And those powerful men diddling adolescent girls ought to be exposed.

TnDem

(1,079 posts)
36. My question is this
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:58 AM
14 hrs ago

Why wasn't anything released during Biden's term?

That's telling, and I think because this thing will end up cutting both ways.

Vinca

(52,393 posts)
39. You know why? Because Joe is a traditional politician and probably thought it would influence the election or
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:05 AM
14 hrs ago

maybe taint the image of the presidency. Reminds me of Jerry Ford pardoning Nixon. Shame Biden didn't release it, but this is not unusual since Democrats have a way of playing nice when they should be throwing hardballs. We've got to give as good as we get.

TnDem

(1,079 posts)
41. I don't believe it
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:13 AM
14 hrs ago

Too much juicy info if only trump were involved...Common sense will tell you, (and the sheer number of people involved over the decades), it's not all Republicans that were involved with this sleazebag,

Occam's razor and all.

ChrisW001

(3 posts)
65. It's a trap!!!
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:05 PM
12 hrs ago

What has Hunter Biden been doing for the last decade? President Biden kept insisting he won't pardon Hunter and then changes his mind at the last minute! If Hunter's on the list, then he doesn't get punished for anything because he was pardoned by his father! Then you have to ask why President Biden knew about this and didn't do anything about anybody else? We're ignoring a lot of problems just to keep attacking Trump!

Here's an even scarier thought, what if Trump was just someone around there like Bill Clinton? Trump hangs out with Epstein, Bill Clinton hangs out with Epstein, Bill and Hillary go to Trump and Melania's wedding. What if there's really nothing going on there but by attacking them, we're setting up Hunter and Joe Biden?

This just looks like a huge trap. If I had that Admiral Ackbar meme handy, I'd be posting it everywhere.

H2O Man

(77,373 posts)
68. Great answer.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:05 AM
43 min ago

It would have lessened the presidency for him to order the DOJ to release files with names of people not being charged. Double so if it is about a political opponent. I saddened to see Democrats who have zero grasp that post-Watergate, everyone agreed that the DOJ should be kept away from a president's agenda. One of the responsibilities of citizenship is being educated to the point where simple questions are already answered.

Quiet Em

(2,093 posts)
43. The con artist was the one who campaigned on releasing the Epstein documents and files
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:28 AM
14 hrs ago

All those documents and files were procured during the con artist's first term. That's when Epstein was charged, incarcerated and died.

So trying to push this as "why didn't Biden release it" is a distraction from the con artist. Releasing them was the con's promise.

I have no doubt there are many prominent men implicated in this, world wide. I would like to hope that some of it, the money laundering, is still under investigation. And there are men who know which men sexually assaulted and sexually abused 13 and 14 year old girls. The con artist is the one running scared now. Not Joe Biden.

Vinca

(52,393 posts)
38. Nope. If this is what it takes to get MAGA to dump him, I'll listen to it. I'm hoping other news outlets will
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:02 AM
14 hrs ago

pick up juicy tidbits here and there and crank things up even more. A compromising photo would be good.

allegorical oracle

(5,371 posts)
40. I am insofar as nothing new has been produced. Old news starts smelling stale. Once some
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:11 AM
14 hrs ago

fresh information emerges I'll be happy, again.

Quiet Em

(2,093 posts)
44. No.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:31 AM
14 hrs ago

And I hope every man who participated in this remains paranoid and frightened that they can be outed at any time.

BootinUp

(50,098 posts)
45. They say politics is a blood sport.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:35 AM
14 hrs ago

Don't stop until his political career and that of his family and associates are all dead.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,940 posts)
46. Absolutely not
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:35 AM
14 hrs ago

Furthermore, I recommend that everyone let their senator and representative know that if they do not support a thorough investigation, you will support their challenger in the primary and their opponent in the general election.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

cadoman

(1,484 posts)
47. the prosecution can't be trusted -- the public must demand accountability
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:37 AM
14 hrs ago

Pam Bondi didn't prosecute his network while she was in Florida, what motivation would she have to do so now?

We need to keep the pressure up. If TFG is covering for Epstein it is impeachable and it won't have 100% MAGAt support, but it will be enough to get him out of office.

usonian

(19,138 posts)
51. I'm so tired of it that I took out a billboard "It's time to forget all about Epstein"
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:49 AM
13 hrs ago


(sarcasm)

Brainfodder

(7,530 posts)
52. No, this is as good as The Boys from Amazon, the finale and aftermath are going to be the best to that point!
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:51 AM
13 hrs ago

Ken Dayenu

(79 posts)
53. We will never know what is in them
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 AM
13 hrs ago

I hold a similar cynical view, but I'm enjoying sitting back, having some popcorn, and watching MAGATs attack Trump.

It would be nice if everybody have sex with minors was exposed, but I'm keeping my expectations very low.

kimbutgar

(25,564 posts)
54. No everyday we must bring it up !
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 AM
13 hrs ago

And keep poking that big stick at the orange Hitler !

To the point he loses it biggly

JustAnotherGen

(35,678 posts)
57. I'm waiting
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:07 PM
13 hrs ago

For them to bring up that the files are in Hunter Biden's laptop. I'm enjoying the pardons crash out.

Clots and Prayers!

YodaMom2

(97 posts)
55. At this point, I almost don't care what's in them.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:58 AM
13 hrs ago

What I can’t get enough of, though, is how it’s got Corpulent Caligula freaking right the #%@& out. That I’m enjoying immensely.

taxi

(2,400 posts)
58. NONBHN - Not only no but hell no!
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:08 PM
13 hrs ago

If there is one thing we can thank that worthless piece of crap for it would be for his attack on Murdoch and the WSJ. Hopefully the WSJ and Murdoch's tentacles will keep this in the headlines for a long, long time.

taxi

(2,400 posts)
66. Thank you. There are so many of his supporters who accept the whitewashing without question.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:36 PM
12 hrs ago

On the other hand, well, obviously we here have no intention of throwing in the towel!

kennyperkins

(49 posts)
69. It has to be kept in the news
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:16 AM
32 min ago

It has to come out, unfortunely I dont think the media has the heart to do so.

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