I get that. But if the point is to figure out what went wrong, I don’t think anything should be off the table…do a 360 review and see what comes out.

NYT should stick to recipes and puzzles.

but are continuously lambasted by the opposition for the most unpopular aspects of that position. If we stood on broader unassailable principles we would be less of a target. That's what Trump did. He didn't have to tell us about tariffs and destroying everything, we knew it already. But he couldn't be tagged to it, or maybe he used Project 2025 as a shield, a distraction. Don't look at that over there, look at me.

election but declares all of the most important players - the president, the nominee, the campaign managers, the strategists, the consultants - off-limits - I would have thought it was ridiculously over the top - but this is the REALITY in 2025.

It ran here constantly every commercial break it was played atleast once. I'm not sure who made the decision to not hit back but I do feel it was a bad decision.

And examining poor decisions from within the campaign would require changes to be made.

Instead, it is much easier and less painful to look to outside entities to blame.

…a double rec button.

Fact of the matter is that our nominee was going to be either Biden or Kamala -- period.

Black voters and enough white voters would have voted for one or the other to ensure that no other candidate could have made a credible challenge to either.

It reeks of sour grapes from fans of certain candidates that think they would would win 50 states if only the dastardly DNC didn't hold them back.

But I don't think that would necessarily be the case if Biden announced in 2022 or early 2023 he wasn't running again. Harris wasn't popular in the 2020 primary and was tied to the Biden campaign.

But that said, there are also some deep questions that we need to ask about the people in the Biden administration and not being better prepared for what was coming in the debate, and on the Harris campaign for not having an answer to the "she's for them" ad and the "what would you do differently than Biden" question. We also need to be willing to look at the efficiency of having/paying celebrities to show up to campaign stops. And why aren't we able to better translate the popularity of many of our positions into electoral wins?

Sure we won't win 50 states, but we also need to figure out why we're at risk in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, etc. Pretending everything is fine isn't going to change things.

Biden was popular and he chose Kamala as his running mate. All the reasons for pushing Biden out the door would not have applied to Kamala. Kamala was young, now more experienced than anyone trying to challenge her, and running on an even more progressive platform than Biden -- which ran on the most progressive party platform in decades.

Once again, Kamala would have had the support of black voters and enough white voters to push her over the edge. There was absolutely no other candidate that would have seriously challenged either one in the primary. Even if we were to suspend reality and assume for a second that there was, the civil war that would have resulted from pushing out a beloved life-long Democratic incumbent because he was """too old""" and then disregarding his running mate (which did not have any of said problems) would have resulted in an even bigger loss in the general.

Kamala did the best with the hand that she was dealt, but it's the fault of the voters for allowing Trump back into office. You can't out-campaign stupidity and stubbornness. Americans had to touch the hot stove again, and now -- barely half a year into the felon's first year -- they are already regretting it.

She told them.

We told them.

They didn't listen.

We need upgrades in the decision making: data, intelligence and deciders.

Generals fighting the last war.

Everything changed.

Look back and a Tesla will run you over.

Wake up.

the media is determined to either do false equivalency or just outright pull for drumpf all together.

so you have nonsense happening like drumpf doing 1000 things that get put on one side of the scale, and Biden or harris doing one thing that the media decides to portray in a negative light, but they make that one thing weigh as much as the 1000 things drumpf did, to "even out" the scales of coverage.

the question for us is... how do we get a fair shake? How do we combat the right wing dominating all forms of media?

The DNC loves their consultants.