can hold more than one thought at the same time.

There's also the inconvenient truth that much of the sentiment surrounding what was happening in Gaza was artificially generated to use as a cudgel against Biden and then Kamala.

Now that those same views aren't generating the same sort of social media engagement, those same views aren't as prevalent. Funny how that works.

most. 51% would cover the word "about" and would mean is was "most".

ETA - my country has reports coming out from Dachau like *Detention Centers* in place like Louisiana.

However, not enough to put it in their top 5 or even top 10.

while Biden was President.

I know she does paid speaking engagements to friendly audiences, but she no longer says controversial things like the "President is engaging in "Genocide". I'm told that even during these infrequent occurrences she's pretty tame, and still no criticism of Putin.

She did her job,,,,again.

Sadly, she will be back.

The info you seek is out there.
https://www.gp.org/press_releases

criticism of her pal, Vlad Putin, the war criminal?

Putin is committing the same atrocities in Ukraine as the IDF is in Gaza.

Beside that, I don't read a quote from Jill Stein, just a press release from the "green party".

Other people are quoted, but not her. Interesting

No more protesting in front of the White House. No cutesy names for TSF.

Gee, I wonder why?

Then boom! Not a single protest.

realize that those protests were a psyop.

Our media doesn’t. Today a kindergarten was targeted. I’m having a hard time with our Congress voting for more money for Israel without a statement like - no food for the children of Gaza, no money - at the least!

Times of Gaza -

Israel bombed a kindergarten in Gaza, resulting in injuries among the children.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Deported to Southern Sudan.

Other places, too.

and if American citizens are afraid to protest, we have serious problems here, also.

She’s pretty active on X. I’m glad to see she is posting a lot about the genocide.

“EVERYONE is now starving in Gaza, children, elders, healthy adults, even doctors are collapsing mid shift in hunger. Yet weeks of food relief is prepositioned & ready to go in a heart beat.

“Without US aid to Israel, this would be over now.
It's in our hands.”

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

and she isn't leading a rally anywhere.

And giving Elon clicks on X to boot!

Jill Stein is an idiotic Putin puppet.

and I would think it is increasingly getting to the point where one would be hard pressed to defend it.

Just curious - how much worse would it have to get? No more remaining buildings, no more surviving Gazans, etc.?

In the aftermath of those actions.

for there to be enough revenge?

Collective punishment is a war crime.

Hamas's stated goal is the destruction of Israel, so it is kind of hard to leave them around, particularly after Oct 7, but 20 months of war has proven they won't surrender and are next to impossible to eradicate without horrific collateral damage.

It is time to just agree to leave Gaza. Swap prisoners. The IDF has delivered the message that Oct 7th was a bad idea. It is up to the Palestinians if they want more of Hamas or less. It would be nice if they had elections every now and then.

The IDF will bomb hospital and refugee tent camps.

Yes

Assigning collective guilt and inflicting collective punishment is a war crime.

Of course those are the views of the Israeli government too, and the "aftermath" of those views are the 17,000 + dead children, 9000+ dead women, who knows how many other civilians, the highest per capita child amputees in the world in a place with scant medical care; and starvation, human suffering and deprivation on a scale that should be unacceptable in a "civilized", rules-based world - though of course YMMV.

And kidnapped civilians. They killed 1200 in cold blood. Kidnapped 240. Videotapes of the atrocities exist if you look. They found children in an oven.

Are you shocked that those they attacked seem to have lost patience and humanity? Was this attack on civilian a war crime?

There were no children baked in ovens - or hanging from clotheslines or decapitated either (but there actually are many of those in Gaza).

You might want to look at the meaning of collective punishment and why it is a war crime. You might want to look up "atrocity propaganda " too.

And Israel kicked their asses for it. Now they are going way too far. A people that once faced the reality of genocide but survived is now pushing genocide on another people. It's just too damn far extreme than making up for the Hamas attack. This is now nothing more than a land grab with a side of genocide. If that is antisemitism then I guess I just am. Not that I ever was before.

Then I remember how Trump does not, in any way, represent my opinions or views. Perhaps the majority of Israelis feel the same about Netanyahu. I don't know.

It’s not different. They control Gaza but the Palestinian people protect and support Hamas.

But the constant accusations of genocide are unhelpful. My grandfather was from Poland, 90% of Jews in Poland were killed. That is what genocide looks like. Call it a Nakba 2.0, barbaric, brutal, abomination. Get a thesaurus and find whatever works for you, but genocide is just inflammatory and not helpful. And stop accusing Jews of being Nazis, that is just offensive.

Does that mean Israelis are not responsible for the actions of the settlers? Of course they are. They are complicit. Same is true of Palestinians in Gaza and around the world. Just days after Oct 7, Palestinians were out celebrating in my city in the US. They weren't saying OMG what Hamas did was terrible.

What is happening in Gaza is terrible. We can all agree that children are not to blame and we would like to see an end to it. Trying to cast Palestinians as innocent victims and Israel as evil it is not a representation of reality. There is both good and evil in both Israeli and Palestinian society. After 75+ years of war, both communities probably have PTSD and other mental disorders. I can't imagine living like either the Israelis or the Palestinians.

Israel is starving people. Then shooting them when they try to get food.

This is a war crime.

Must be nice to write off daily atrocities so easily.

The fear for our own safety combined with anguish over what is happening in Gaza. Nobody I know is celebrating what is happening in Gaza. Nobody wants the death of random civilians, particularly children. We want Hamas destroyed or at least out of Gaza. After 20 months, I don't think this objective can be achieved by the IDF. The Palestinians will have to decide if they want them or not. I see no alternative to ending the war and seeing what happens.

In part because I'm not sure that they have any real way to get rid of Hamas.

And where exactly is the mythical land you call Palestine? According to so many it doesn't exist and never has...regardless of what history has shown!

Just for future reference...it was Hamas and several other organizations that attacked an Israeli settlement...not Palestine!

And plenty of sadness over the loss of Israel being well thought of.

And plenty of sadness over the loss of world favor for the United States.

I can't say for certain that outrage at "Genocide Joe" tipped the election, but it certainly was a factor.

Now we are flooded with one outrage after another right here at home, with the loss of our democracy hanging in the balance.

Don't get me wrong. I am not transferring blame onto Palestinians in Gaza, whose suffering is orders of magnitude more horrific. Nor am I suggesting their plight should not be a priority on the international docket.

But we are even more powerless to stop the horrors in Gaza than we are to stop the destruction of our government by the Trump regime. In fact, defeating this regime is the only way to change US policy towards the Israeli government.

Trump isn't a dictator, the American people chose him. He didn't win because of electoral college BS. He got a majority of the votes. Almost 50% even. You may not have, I may not have, but the American people did. Americans aren't powerless. Americans got exactly what they wanted and it is horrific.

I don't know if I should comment on DU before I've had my first cup of coffee. I might say something I regret later, but I can't help but feel this way.

Americans believed a multitude of lies. When FAFO really kicks in as the economy tanks and they lose (or pay more for) health insurance, ask them if that's what they wanted.

Drinking my OJ now, coffee and a bagel come next.

something about it. But those Americans whose direct friends and relations are now being slaughtered were the very same Americans who went out of their way to trash Kamala's election prospects.

So now what are we supposed to do?