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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it remotely possible that this Epstein story can change the thinking of a few QAnon or MAGA true believers?
Is it possible that a few might actually escape the cult?
The very fact that they do not automatically accept Trump or Bondi's attempt to delay and hide the information, is evidence that they have gone out the door.
And are they able to see that Trump is willing to use Judges to help himself politically? Such as when he sued the WSJ and Rupert Murdoch, he went to his favorite Judge in South Florida - Judge Aileen Cannon?
On edit: Popov on Meidastouch reports that Trump team avoided Aileen Cannon?
And he hopes he can get a couple of Judges to rule that the Grand Jury testimony can be released?
But that the real truth is that the information that MAGA and QAnon, and their supporters are looking for, is in the thousands of files that Bondi has agreed not to make public, at the behest of Donald J Trump?
So much for an independent Justice Department.
Is it possible that some of them might escape??

efhmc
(15,706 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,490 posts)cadoman
(1,484 posts)"Mango was just trying to get everyone talking about Epstein", "This is all part of the plan", etc.
But you never know. People do change but usually just a handful of times in their life. I think it's more likely that Medicaid rollbacks and tax and food price increases, etc. will flip the qanon crowd.
The party that can provide financial security (or trick the public into thinking it will, as is the case with Repukes) takes the independent voters.
kentuck
(114,424 posts)And so obvious.
msongs
(71,806 posts)Playingmantis
(439 posts)They didnt care when he was caught bragging about assaulting women, cheating on his wife, paying off a porn star to remain silent with campaign funds. making learing comments about his daughter, being convicted of sexual assault, having about 20 women claim he assaulted them..so NO I dont think this band of fascists will care about this...sadly
Kid Berwyn
(21,339 posts)The MAGA are breaking out in assholes and shitting bricks.
We supported him economically, not for Epstein blah de blah blah blah.
Its time to encourage their impending demise.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,553 posts)Everyday he searches for a new distraction. Normally he stays on message because it works, but right now nothing is working and the deep conspiracy magats believe he is now part of the deep state. They have based their worth on prosecuting the democrats for child abuse. They want their moneys worth and he is not going to deliver.
kentuck
(114,424 posts)...he is protecting himself? What do they believe? Do they rationalize it to that finer point?
Or do they say, "Oh, he's just doing what he said he was gonna do..."?
Keepthesoulalive
(1,553 posts)Is to find a quick trip to a mental health facility.
Johonny
(24,179 posts)Then it is more than remotely possible as he controls a social media company that can push Epstein and Trump much to the disadvantage of the GOP, but to the advantage of the Musk Is Just As Big An Asshole Party.
kentuck
(114,424 posts)... and he could create a huge chasm in American politics, including both major Parties.
Arazi
(8,168 posts)Its going to take chipping away at these cult groups like these fringe nutsos.
He also lost Candace Owens and her groupies with this latest bullshit.
The real test is if it lasts
AntiFascist
(13,528 posts)Trump has proven himself to be at service of the wealthiest of his donors, at the expense of the mass majority of MAGA. The Epstein controversy only fits right in, that he will hide any evidence implicating his elite associates who are involved in human trafficking, even though he had used exposing the Epstein files in order to gain political power amongst his base of support.
Skittles
(166,079 posts)if any MAGAts "wake up", it's NOT because they grew a conscience, it's that Trump's grift is starting to STINK
GoCubsGo
(34,075 posts)And, "foolish." Then there was his whole "I no longer need you or your votes" tirade... He's all pissy, because they're still demanding that he release the files/evidence. I don't think these MAGAts are taking kindly to being called those names. Looks like he's already losing a number of them.
usonian
(19,142 posts)It is only a ruckus because it looks like Trump and friends letting the sex-trafficking, cannibalistic dems skate.
So they are busy doctoring files to create that. Expect all real evidence to already be refuced to atoms ( and electrons and so on)
AI will do it all.
Silent Type
(10,505 posts)approval.
StarryNite
(11,660 posts)Dump could rape a girl on 5th Ave and not lose the support of MAGAs.
Jack Valentino
(2,833 posts)and a few more might fail to vote in the midterm elections!
(they were never that big on elections which didn't have Trump on the ballot anyway)
blubunyip
(242 posts)typically, but the enthusiasm is waning
Exiting from a cult is like waking up from a long dream and not wanting to get out of bed. But they will have to eventually.
Ive got time for those MAGAS who admit their mistake, especially if they apologize for the consequences of their addiction. Anyone who is still defending the murderous regime, without a shred of doubt or conscience they are lost, so let them go.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,491 posts)Until the space ships come or you drink the Fla-Vor Aid.
These people always find a way to get back on board.