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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe victims were children and no one should lose sight of that
The Epstein scandal is repulsive and horrific. It was heinous assault and abuse of children. That fact seems to be getting lost in some of the reporting and commentary. It's not, "sex with a child". It's the most atrocious form of abuse and assault committed on a child. 13 and 14 year old girls are not "young women". They are children.

Walleye
(42,193 posts)He is constantly seen in the company of rapists. There should be a lot more people pointing that out, and not being afraid of being sued for telling the truth.
Irish_Dem
(73,751 posts)And hangs around with other rapists.
Gimpyknee
(549 posts)Irish_Dem
(73,751 posts)I am not in the mood to defend the son of a bitch or defend him.
soldierant
(8,889 posts)which has possibly the narrowest definition of rape in the nation. The judge at his trial actually said that in most other states, the charge would have qualified as rape. That is why so many people are calling it rape. And I get that.
Irish_Dem
(73,751 posts)One can only speculate why.
soldierant
(8,889 posts)I try not to be too obnoxious about it), I might think it was to try to be accurate so that you couldn't be called a liar. But today, when MAGA will call you a liar no matter what you say or do, nit picking accuracy doesn't matter.
niyad
(126,659 posts)but the NY statute defines it only with penile penetration.
Your posted defense of this entitled and busy and boastful sexual predator is disturbing, to say the least. And please do not try to split hairs about legal definitions. We are not a
court of law. We all know exactly who, and what, he is, whatever definitions are used, just as we do his supporters, whatever linguistic games they play.
SheltieLover
(73,228 posts)
Aviation Pro
(14,695 posts)Do that double giraffe jerkoff, you fucking pedophile.
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mercuryblues
(15,839 posts)some were younger than that and they were not all girls.
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TommieMommy
(2,317 posts)et tu
(2,386 posts)of their lives and made also
to lose their childhood before
they should have. as i have said
before, standing room only in hell
for these abusers - just way to many.
IronLionZion
(49,770 posts)For the same reason they use "kids" and "youthful indiscretion" and similar for adult men who commit crimes against these young girls.
"locker room talk" that happens maybe in the Trump golf course locker room. They try to normalize horrible stuff that has no excuse.
BoRaGard
(7,256 posts)lock them up
Marthe48
(21,641 posts)I only saw a minute, the part where the daughter and another girl were going to be raped by a fat old man, and I turned it off. But why was that aspect of rape such a trigger, but the same people who abhorred that are fine with the details coming out about felon rapist traitor, epstein and other foul predators? And the same kind of monster being asshole uber alles?
Cherokee100
(407 posts)Whatever happened to the movie 'Apprentice' ? It was here, for a few days and then disappeared.
TheRickles
(2,931 posts)dlk
(12,893 posts)This was calculated child abuse and these monsters destroyed, and discarded children as though they were nothing more than used kleenex.
Godot51
(615 posts)As is usual with "men of power" they prey on the helpless.
Then they claim those helpless were somehow responsible for their fates.
slightlv
(6,506 posts)I was going to say everywhere, but I don't have experience and knowledge of elsewhere, to know if that die that was cast encompasses all evil males everywhere. Whether it's sex slaves, slaves, little girls or little boys, it's predatory behavior based on a power structure this country exalts. Until we can bring that power structure down to ground in shreds, where it belongs, we'll always have this evil in our midst. Sometimes, I wonder if testosterone shouldn't be regulated after a certain age.
SheltieLover
(73,228 posts)

pansypoo53219
(22,555 posts)AntiFascist
(13,626 posts)rickyhall
(5,483 posts)kimbutgar
(25,909 posts)Blue Owl
(57,224 posts)If indeed there is a God how has he not turned into a pillar of salt?
Skittles
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camartinwv
(131 posts)SheltieLover
(73,228 posts)Wtaf is wrong with this country???