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AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 02:43 AM Yesterday

Global outcry grows over Israel's killing of starving civilians in Gaza

UN secretary general warns ‘last lifelines’ may soon collapse after Israeli forces attack WHO facilities in Deir al-Balah

Source: The Guardian

Israel is facing intensifying international condemnation for its killing of starving Palestinian civilians in Gaza, and its attacks on humanitarian efforts, as the UN secretary general, António Guterres, said the “last lifelines keeping people alive [in the strip] are collapsing”.

An angry chorus of senior figures, among them the UK foreign secretary, David Lammy, and a senior Catholic cleric, expressed on Tuesday a growing sense of global horror over Israel’s actions.

“I spoke again with [the Israeli foreign minister] Gideon Saar to recall our understanding on aid flow and made clear that IDF [Israel Defense Forces] must stop killing people at distribution points,” the EU’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, wrote on X. “The killing of civilians seeking aid in Gaza is indefensible.”

She said “all options were on the table” if Israel does not deliver on aid pledges, but did not say what those options included.
...
Guterres’ comments came hours after a hard-hitting joint statement on Monday by 27 western countries including the UK, France, Australia and Canada harshly criticising Israel’s restrictions on humanitarian aid and calling for an immediate end to the war.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/22/israel-bombs-who-facilities-in-gaza-as-global-outcry-grows

People, including babies and children, are dying from organ failure caused by starvation - at alarmingly accelerating rates over the last few days. Even doctors and medical staff are fainting on the job from hunger and exhaustion. A quarter of the population is facing near-famine with over 100,000 women and children at acute severe malnutrition. The last hope for salvation is being destroyed by Israeli forces: the critical humanitarian infrastructure at Deir al-Balah, including the WHO buildings destroyed in the last day.

Over a thousand people now have been butchered trying to get a sack of flour.

None of this is by accident.

Do the leaders of those 27 western countries that issues the joint "hard-hitting" statement yesterday have any intention of upholding their duties to prevent genocide under the Genocide Convention? Is that one of the "options" the EU has promised?

I suspect whatever option these "leaders" choose, it will be too little, too late. Any reckoning coming to them will not matter to those who have died and will die and the many more suffering agonies due to their inaction and/or complicity.
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Global outcry grows over Israel's killing of starving civilians in Gaza (Original Post) AloeVera Yesterday OP
And the U.S. gives Israel $40 billion a year. Duncanpup Yesterday #1
I believe the total funding for this "war" may be approaching that figure. AloeVera Yesterday #4
This is not a war. There is no Palestinian state. LuvLoogie Yesterday #2
It is not a war in the conventional sense only genocide. Duncanpup Yesterday #3
It was a war for a month or two Johnny2X2X 23 hrs ago #15
By no measure is it a "war". AloeVera Yesterday #5
All it takes for a war to be a war is two or more belligerent parties going at each other. Beastly Boy 22 hrs ago #18
This is the ultimate whitewashing of Hamas. Beastly Boy 22 hrs ago #17
It's the removal of impoverished people from expensive beachfront property which rich people want. Irish_Dem Yesterday #6
Somehow I don't think the rich are lining up to vacation in Gaza. AloeVera Yesterday #9
I mean people travel to Germany, the US, and China EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #11
Trump and Kushner have expressed an interest in the property. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #12
That's a ploy, a pretext cooked up between two sociopaths. AloeVera 22 hrs ago #16
More than 100 aid organisations warn of 'mass starvation' in Gaza muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #7
Local journalists working for foreign press are starving too. AloeVera 19 hrs ago #21
I'm having trouble posting the pic directly. AloeVera 19 hrs ago #22
This? muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #23
Thank you. I'll try to remember that. AloeVera 18 hrs ago #24
The starvation and killings of children are central to Israeli strategy. David__77 Yesterday #8
Actually, these are central to Hamas strategy. Beastly Boy 22 hrs ago #19
Not loud enough malaise Yesterday #10
Recommended. H2O Man 23 hrs ago #13
Netanyahu: "If you want them, come take them before we kill them all" dalton99a 23 hrs ago #14
It is obscene to see some people defending such atrocities and seeing humanitarians as enemies. . Ping Tung 21 hrs ago #20
War isn't murder. Ask Netanyahu. He's got a psalm for that vanessa_ca 18 hrs ago #25
Netanyahu and Kushner (scum of the earth) mentioned in the song. Hamas? Nada NoRethugFriends 17 hrs ago #34
The Guardian is by no means an unbiased source. NoRethugFriends 17 hrs ago #26
Sarcasm? AloeVera 17 hrs ago #28
As I said, bot an unbiased source. NoRethugFriends 17 hrs ago #32
LMAO! vanessa_ca 17 hrs ago #31
IHYAGR NoRethugFriends 17 hrs ago #33
Oh. Right. Well, if that's your point of view: muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #35
"It doesn't make a damned bit of difference who wins the war to someone who's dead." Yossarian - Catch-22 Ping Tung 17 hrs ago #27
The song was from Vanessa_ca AloeVera 17 hrs ago #29
Bravo to her. Biting, sardonic, and sad. Ping Tung 17 hrs ago #30

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
4. I believe the total funding for this "war" may be approaching that figure.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 02:57 AM
Yesterday

It's been a bit shadowy and hard to pin down. Some of the funding even bypassed Congress.

The annual funding, aside from the war, and ongoing, is around 3.5 billion, I believe.

Historically, Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. Somewhere around $300 billion to date.

All funds should be cut now, no more arms either. Though we know the US won't, other countries might. Canada has, at least the transfer of arms.

LuvLoogie

(8,153 posts)
2. This is not a war. There is no Palestinian state.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 02:50 AM
Yesterday

There is no Palestinian military. They have no tanks, no airplanes, no navy.

They have no factories, no schools, no hospitals.

This is not a war.

Johnny2X2X

(23,093 posts)
15. It was a war for a month or two
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:15 AM
23 hrs ago

And then it was pockets of armed resistance for several months after that. But now it is simply an extermination, there is no real armed resistance anymore, just the occasional 2 or 3 fighters with some guns that get bombed quickly or the occasional rocket attack that has no chance of landing in Israel and causing much damage.

At least we don't have to guess what the long term plan is anymore, BiBi and Trump have publicly stated their exact plan, to kill or eject 100% of the people that live in Gaza and take their land for their rich real estate developer friends to turn into a resort town. People can talk about cease fires, and I am sure there will be some cease fires, but they will be brief because the end goal is the total annihilation of Gaza and all of its people.

Gaza was lost the day Trump won the election. My fear is that the West Bank is next.

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
5. By no measure is it a "war".
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:18 AM
Yesterday

It's why I always put it in quotes.

In a war, the civilian population has a military with army, air force, bases etc to PROTECT it. Gaza had nothing. AK-47s and RPGs vs jets, tanks, 2000 lb bombs and a well-equipped force 10 times larger. With that off-the charts asymettry, it was really guerilla warfare against an insurmountable enemy, with civilians paying the price. It's why the casualty ratio is about 130:1. Most of that 130 are civilians vs 1 IDF soldier. It's slaughter.

Beastly Boy

(13,090 posts)
18. All it takes for a war to be a war is two or more belligerent parties going at each other.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:46 AM
22 hrs ago

Civilian population has no armies. It is the belligerent combatants that have armies. Their relative military strength is irrelevant as long as they engage in combat. Assymetry is irrelevant to it being a war as long as none of them surrender. Casualties, both military and civilian, is irrelevan to it being a war as long as at least one of the belligerents hides and attacks from civilian areas.

Save your quotation marks for when you use terms like "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing".

Beastly Boy

(13,090 posts)
17. This is the ultimate whitewashing of Hamas.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
22 hrs ago

Tens of thousands of missiles fired into Israel, but this is not a war.

A thousand Israelis killed in an illegal Hamas invasion of Israel, but this is not a war.

Brigades and battalions of Hamas militants taking part in military hostilities on a daily basis, but this is not a war.

Hostages held by armed Hamas militants, but this is not a war.

If there is no Palestinian military, why does Palestinian military refuse to disarm and release the hostages?

Irish_Dem

(72,591 posts)
6. It's the removal of impoverished people from expensive beachfront property which rich people want.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 04:39 AM
Yesterday

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
9. Somehow I don't think the rich are lining up to vacation in Gaza.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:57 AM
Yesterday

Or have a vacation home in a land with poisoned air, soil and water. Not to mention the forever-stigma where a genocide occurred and the natives were expelled. It might be too much shame, even for the shameless.

In any case the clean-up will take decades. There are much better playgrounds in the world.

I think this is about a number of Israel's interests, not that of the rich. Israelis will never forgive Palestinians for Oct 7th and as collective punishment, and for their perceived security, 82% of them want Gazans expelled, per a recent poll. Also, Likud has always had the goal of establishing Israeli sovereignty "from the Jordan to the Mediterranean" - it's in its charter (not as catchy as "from the river to the sea" but the same). This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to put the final nails in the coffin of the two-state solution and I believe the entire "war" was conducted from the start to result in the ethnic cleansing of these unfortunate people.

EdmondDantes_

(644 posts)
11. I mean people travel to Germany, the US, and China
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 09:37 AM
23 hrs ago

Make it nice enough or gaudy enough and people will go.

Irish_Dem

(72,591 posts)
12. Trump and Kushner have expressed an interest in the property.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:01 AM
23 hrs ago

And they don't care if it is contaminated or not before they slap a resort on it.

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
16. That's a ploy, a pretext cooked up between two sociopaths.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:31 AM
22 hrs ago

By that I mean Trump and Netanyahu. Though both are likely to profit off Gaza's unexploited offshore gas fields, a figure of half a TRILLION dollars as I recall. But Gaza itself will be Israel's. Likud is increasingly controlled by the settler movement and those religious nuts want to return to Gaza, it's a holy mission for them. They already have plots selected.

Don't let the "Gaza Riviera" distraction fool you.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,171 posts)
7. More than 100 aid organisations warn of 'mass starvation' in Gaza
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 04:40 AM
Yesterday
A statement with 111 signatories, including Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam, warned that “our colleagues and those we serve are wasting away”.

The groups called for an immediate negotiated ceasefire, the opening of all land crossings and the free flow of aid through UN-led mechanisms.

Israel says humanitarian aid is being allowed into Gaza and accuses Hamas of exploiting civilian suffering, including by stealing food handouts to sell at inflated prices or shooting at those awaiting aid.

In their statement, the humanitarian organisations said that warehouses with tonnes of supplies were sitting untouched just outside the territory, and even inside, as they were blocked from accessing or delivering the goods.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-war-aid-benjamin-netanyahu-hamas-middle-east-latest-news-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-688084458f086020c423e7fa#block-688084458f086020c423e7fa

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
21. Local journalists working for foreign press are starving too.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 01:51 PM
19 hrs ago

These journalists work for the AFP, so they are more "priviledged" than ordinary Gazans without income. Yet what they describe is clearly the result of enduring, severe starvation. Ordinary Gazans have no voice so we can only imagine the greater suffering they and their children endure.

AFP journalists in the Gaza Strip warned Tuesday that chronic food shortages are crippling their ability to report on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.

Palestinian text, photo, and video journalists working for the international news agency described desperate hunger and a lack of clean water that have left many ill and exhausted, forcing some to cut back their coverage as the war enters its 22nd month. One journalist summed up the crisis bluntly: they have "no energy left due to hunger."

Snip

Bashar Taleb, 35, one of four AFP photographers in Gaza shortlisted for the Pulitzer Prize earlier this year, lives amid the bombed-out ruins of his home in Jabalia al-Nazla, northern Gaza. He said he has had to stop working multiple times to search for food for his family and loved ones and admitted feeling "utterly defeated emotionally" for the first time.
"I've tried so much, knocked on many doors to save my family from starvation, constant displacement and persistent fear, but so far to no avail," he added.

Another Pulitzer nominee, Omar al-Qattaa, 35, is staying in the remains of his wife's family home after his apartment was destroyed. "I'm exhausted from carrying heavy cameras on my shoulders and walking long distances," he said. "We can't even reach coverage sites because we have no energy left due to hunger and lack of food."


More:
https://archive.is/1lQQA

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2025-07-22/ty-article/utterly-defeated-hungry-exhausted-journalists-struggle-to-document-gaza-war/00000198-3351-d2c6-a99a-3b7104b80000?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=Content&utm_campaign=daily-brief&utm_content=6866e9f70a

I think around 200 local journalists have been silenced killed. Yet they persist. But this war of starvation may yet succeed in silencing them in a different way.

This is what starvation looks like. From the same article. For the love of God. No one should deny this is happening.

https://postimg.cc/qzDG184G

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
22. I'm having trouble posting the pic directly.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 02:00 PM
19 hrs ago

Perhaps for the best, it's horrific. But people need to know and as they say a pic is worth a thousand words.

Beastly Boy

(13,090 posts)
19. Actually, these are central to Hamas strategy.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:49 AM
22 hrs ago

Their leaders repeatedly told you so. All it takes to know this for a fact is to not shut your ears when they talk.

Ping Tung

(3,080 posts)
20. It is obscene to see some people defending such atrocities and seeing humanitarians as enemies. .
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:47 AM
21 hrs ago

It is shameful that the USA gives or sells arms to the killers.

vanessa_ca

(306 posts)
25. War isn't murder. Ask Netanyahu. He's got a psalm for that
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:23 PM
18 hrs ago


War isn't murder
Good men don't die
Children don't starve and all the women survive
War isn't murder
That's what they say
When you're fighting the Devil
Murder's okay
War isn't murder
They're called casualties
There ain't a veteran
With a good night's sleep

Let's talk about dead people
I mean a dead people
The dead don't feel honor
They don't feel that brave
They don't feel avenged
They're lucky if they got graves

Call your dead mother
Ask her when she died
It's a deathly silence on the other line
The dead don't talk
But their children don't forget
So in 20 short years
You can live to regret that

War isn't murder
There's money at stake
Hell, even Kushner agrees
It's good real estate
War isn't murder
Ask Netanyahu
He's got a psalm for that
He's got a bomb for you
War isn't murder
It's an old desert faith
It's a nation state sanctioned righteous hate

Let's talk about dead people
I mean a dead people
War isn't murder
It's the vengeance of God
If you can't see the bodies
They don't bloat when they rot
And the flies don't swarm
And the children don't cry
If war isn't murder
Good men don't die

So in a short 20 years
Where you vacation the Strip
Try not and think about the dead
And have a nice trip

War isn't murder
Let's all give thanks
I saw it all in a movie
Give it up for Tom Hanks
War isn't murder
They don't ship out the poor
And the bullets they fire
Ain't part of the cure
War isn't murder
Land is a right
But the banks called dibs
It's something you can't fight

Let's talk about dead people
I mean a dead people
The dead don't feel honor
They don't feel that brave
They don't feel avenged
They're lucky if they got graves

Call your dead mother
Ask her when she died
It's a deathly silence on the other line
The dead don't talk
But their children don't forget
So in 20 short years
You can live to regret
That

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
28. Sarcasm?
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:36 PM
17 hrs ago

This is straight reporting! Of comments, statements and facts! It's a NEWS Article.

Or are FACTS just an "opinion" now, as in the MAGA cult?

NoRethugFriends

(3,437 posts)
32. As I said, bot an unbiased source.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 04:08 PM
17 hrs ago

And there is no such thing as straight news reporting now, if there ever was.
By the way, I detest Netanyahu and his actions, as I detest Hamas and theirs.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,171 posts)
35. Oh. Right. Well, if that's your point of view:
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 06:49 PM
14 hrs ago
Gazans 'wasting away' as mass starvation spreads, humanitarian groups warn



More than 100 international aid organisations and human rights groups are warning of mass starvation in Gaza and pressing for governments to take action.

Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam are among the signatories of a joint statement that says their colleagues and the people they serve are "wasting away".
...
The UN has reported that hospitals have admitted people in a state of severe exhaustion caused by a lack of food, and that others are collapsing in the streets.

"With supplies now totally depleted, humanitarian organisations are witnessing their own colleagues and partners waste away before their eyes."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9xkx7vnmxo

UN warns spectre of famine turning Gaza into ‘horror show’

Soaring malnourishment and the risk of famine is turning the situation in Gaza into a “horror show", UN chief Antonio Guterres said on Tuesday, as France’s foreign minister called for international journalists to be allowed access to the Palestinian enclave to “bear witness”. Read our live blog to see how the day's events unfolded.

Malnourishment is soaring and starvation is knocking on every door in Gaza, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said on Tuesday, describing the situation in the Palestinian enclave as a “horror show".

Desperation is mounting in the territory of more than 2 million, which experts say is at risk of famine because of Israel's blockade and nearly two-year offensive.
...
Among the hungry are journalists, with AFP news agency warning that it was concerned about "the appalling situation of its staff in the Gaza Strip". It said the lives of its freelancers were in danger and urged Israel to allow them and their families to leave the occupied coastal territory.

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20250722-live-french-fm-barrot-urges-press-access-to-gaza-after-famine-warnings-mount

Over 100 aid groups, rights watchdogs urge action in Gaza amid humanitarian crisis

Over 100 aid groups and human rights watchdogs have condemned the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, laying blame on Israel and the Israeli government-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) for the dire situation there.

The Gaza Strip has a population of around 2 million people and faces a critical shortage of food, water, medicine and other essential goods.

"Exactly two months since the Israeli government-controlled scheme, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, began operating," the aid groups said in a statement. "109 organizations are sounding the alarm, urging governments to act."

Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Save the Children International, Oxfam, the Norwegian Refugee Council and others made a call to "open all land crossings; restore the full flow of food, clean water, medical supplies, shelter items and fuel through a principled, UN-led mechanism; end the siege, and agree to a ceasefire now."

https://p.dw.com/p/4xtGi

Palestinians are starving or being killed by Israeli troops while seeking aid almost daily. How did we get here?

Twenty-one months into Israel’s war in Gaza, the enclave is gripped by escalating scenes of death and hunger, with some killed while trying to reach aid, others dying of starvation and growing condemnation of Israel’s conduct even among many of its closest allies.

Palestinians in Gaza are suffering from man-made “mass starvation” due to the aid blockade on the enclave, the chief of the World Health Organization warned reporters at a briefing on Wednesday.

“Parents tell us their children cry themselves to sleep from hunger,” Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said. “Food distribution sites have become places of violence.”
...
All 2.1 million people in Gaza are now food insecure. On Tuesday, Gaza’s health ministry said 900,000 children are going hungry, and 70,000 already show signs of malnutrition.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/23/middleeast/gaza-starving-killed-israel-while-seeking-aid-intl

Israeli forces have killed over 1,000 aid-seekers in Gaza since May, the U.N. says

More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces since May while trying to get food in the Gaza Strip, mostly near aid sites run by an American contractor, the U.N. human rights office said Tuesday.
...
Desperation is mounting in the Palestinian territory of more than 2 million, which experts say is at risk of famine because of Israel's blockade and nearly two-year offensive. A breakdown of law and order has led to widespread looting and contributed to chaos and violence around aid deliveries.
...
The U.N. World Food Program says Gaza's hunger crisis has reached "new and astonishing levels of desperation." Ross Smith, the agency's director for emergencies, told reporters Monday that nearly 100,000 women and children are suffering from severe acute malnutrition, and a third of Gaza's population is going without food for multiple days in a row.

MedGlobal, a charity working in Gaza, said five children as young as 3 months had died from starvation in the past three days.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/23/nx-s1-5477365/israel-gaza-aid-casualties

Ping Tung

(3,080 posts)
27. "It doesn't make a damned bit of difference who wins the war to someone who's dead." Yossarian - Catch-22
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:32 PM
17 hrs ago

Great song. Thanks Aloe Vera.

AloeVera

(3,312 posts)
29. The song was from Vanessa_ca
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:41 PM
17 hrs ago

I agree, great song!

Don't they know this is how it goes?

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