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gab13by13

(29,520 posts) Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:06 PM Jul 23

Could President Biden Have Released The Epstein Files

Lawrence had the Epstein victims' attorney on tonight, he was forceful, and riveting.

He stated that the Epstein estate has possession of "the Book," and the attorneys who work for the estate would release it.

The book is real, some of the victims were ordered to be a part of creating it.

This segment, done late at night, needs to be repeated over and over again on MSNBC, but I bet that's the last we see it.

If President Biden had the power to release the Epstein files, he made a huge mistake by not doing so. If it was up to Garland, never mind.

I usually don't watch Lawrence but I will start now. Tonight's segment with the victims' lawyer was the best segment I have seen regarding Krasnov/Epstein.

Someone on DU should cut and paste that segment every day.

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Could President Biden Have Released The Epstein Files (Original Post) gab13by13 Jul 23 OP

Many times Rhiannon will post the clip in this forum ... cliffside Jul 23 #1

Did anyone ask him or the DoJ to release them? Ocelot II Jul 23 #2

The attorney who was on Lawrence gab13by13 Jul 23 #4

There have been calls to release the names for years. Melon Jul 24 #6

Lawrence Was Especially Powerful Tonight WiVoter Jul 23 #3

Well, we found out today that grand jury files can only be released by a judge's order. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 24 #5

Many have known this little legal fact for years. niyad Jul 24 #9

Being in the files, is not evidence of a crime. Biden is a good man, he would not have released information like this tulipsandroses Jul 24 #7

I confess I'm a little apprehensive about releasing full raw files to the general public Midwestern Democrat Jul 24 #10

Tonight's segment with the lawyer: moondust Jul 24 #8

cliffside

(1,289 posts)

1. Many times Rhiannon will post the clip in this forum ...

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:22 PM

Jul 23

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1321

Ocelot II

(126,764 posts)

2. Did anyone ask him or the DoJ to release them?

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:25 PM

Jul 23

Ghislaine Maxwell's trial took place during Biden's term. Materials from the Epstein file would have been relevant, and for that reason the prosecution (and probably the defense as well) probably would not have approved its release at that time.

gab13by13

(29,520 posts)

4. The attorney who was on Lawrence

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:42 PM

Jul 23

would have certainly wanted the files released with the victims' names redacted. He was extremely critical of so many people forgetting about the victims. He represented 5 victims and 2 of them have committed suicide.

Epstein, Maxwell, and Krasnov are monsters.

I hope that MSNBC gets this attorney on TV again on prime time for a bigger audience.

I only asked the question if President Biden could have released them?

Melon

(718 posts)

6. There have been calls to release the names for years.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:12 AM

Jul 24

WiVoter

(1,425 posts)

3. Lawrence Was Especially Powerful Tonight

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:30 PM

Jul 23

I recorded it & will watch it again. does anyone know if transcripts are available?

Fiendish Thingy

(20,518 posts)

5. Well, we found out today that grand jury files can only be released by a judge's order. Nt

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:09 AM

Jul 24

niyad

(126,442 posts)

9. Many have known this little legal fact for years.

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:43 AM

Jul 24

tulipsandroses

(7,856 posts)

7. Being in the files, is not evidence of a crime. Biden is a good man, he would not have released information like this

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:20 AM

Jul 24

just for political gain. Biden wanted to return things to normal. Let the justice department be independent.
It was trump and his minions that continuously campaigned on releasing the files, inciting their base about the Clintons and Democrats being pedophiles.
If Merrick Garland knew that there was evidence of crimes and did nothing - he has a lot of explaining to do. Matter of fact, a lot of people, starting with Bill Barr and everyone that worked on the case have a lot of explaining to do. Prosecutors only bring cases they think they can win. My guess is that whatever is in there, is more of an embarrassment than hard evidence of a crime.

trump wants people to believe that epstein was a mere acquaintance, but they were very good friends. Even if there is no evidence of him abusing minors, whatever is in there is embarrassing for him. Michael Wolff said Epstein showed him pics with topless girls - he does not say the girls were minors. If these girls were 18 yrs old, there is no crime. It would still be an embarrassment.

Midwestern Democrat

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10. I confess I'm a little apprehensive about releasing full raw files to the general public

Reply to tulipsandroses (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 05:33 AM

Jul 24

For example, investigators' interview notes may contain nothing more than dubious hearsay about people the DOJ did not indict - I'm not convinced it's proper to release stuff like that.

moondust

(21,001 posts)

8. Tonight's segment with the lawyer:

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:29 AM

Jul 24

The lawyer represented over 200 victims. Surely he interviewed many/all of them and learned a lot of details.

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