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MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 10:44 AM Yesterday

80 Years of Trying Is Circling Down the Drain

Yesterday, I turned 80 years old. My life has been very interesting. For most of my life, I watched my country of birth make progress. I tried to help it make that progress as a quiet, unnoticed activist. For a while, it seemed to be working. Now, however, it seems that all of that progress is like a waste product, about to be flushed away.

One week after I was born, the USA became the first country to use a nuclear weapon in wartime. We dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. Shortly after that, we dropped another one on Nagasaki. The war ended. I was too young to know that happened, but I learned of it early in my life. It made me angry. I wanted to stop such insanity.

When I turned 6 years old, I was one of the first elementary school children to integrate a grammar school in my little California citrus farming town. A few of us went to first grade at the "Mexican School" in that community. We broke new ground, I guess. I learned to speak Spanish from my new friends, so I could be polite to the grandmothers in their homes. Things got better, over time, in that town. Now, ICE thugs are rounding up people who have Spanish-sounding surnames there, whether they are US citizens or not. Things are falling apart. Life there for some is getting worse, not better.

By the time I was in high school in that same town, I watched and participated in creating a more respectful environment for my friends, and for the girls in that town, as well. Like most places, the late 1950s and early 1960s were pretty dismal if you were a girl. Little by little, that got better. When I started high school, a girl who got pregnant was immediately kicked out of school. By the time I left that high school, that was no longer the case. A year later, the birth control pill became available and they were teaching sex education, finally.

When I graduated in 1963, I was becoming aware of other wrongs. We were about to get into a war in Vietnam. Civil rights was in the news. There was talk about overpopulation as a threat to the environment and a creator of poverty. I decided I would not add to the problem, so I never had children. That was my contribution.

I had begun being political in 1960, when I started helping to elect JFK. I was always at Democratic meetings, moving chairs around and listening. I held campaign signs. JFK won. Then, in my Freshman year in college, JFK was assassinated. A shocking end to something that seemed promising.

In 1964, I dropped out of college. I was disillusioned and frustrated. I traveled around the country, visiting 40 of our states, while driving an old 1953 Chrysler New Yorker. I was in Selma, Alabama when people marched across the Edmund Pettus bridge, and heard MLK, Jr. give his "How Long? Not Long" speech in Montgomery. I returned to California and enlisted in the USAF to avoid being drafted into the Army. I didn't know what else to do. They killed MLK, Jr., too.

That kept me busy, and I spend a couple of years either learning Russian at a military school or working at a remote base in Turkey. I was thinking. I was trying to find a path that would let me help get the country on the right track. I came back to the USA and was stationed near Washington, DC.

There, I fell in with the anti-war protest movement, while still in the USAF. The DC area in the late 1960s was busy with anti-war protests, civil rights protests, women's rights protests and other activism. I was busy. I wasn't part of the leadership, but I met many who were. I was full of optimism. I had adventurous times for a while.

Then, I went back to California, back to college, got married, and started a career as a writer, never again working a W-2 job. I kept doing activism in politics. I got involved in Democratic Party organizations as a minor functionary, ending up years later as a precinct chair in Minnesota. I helped Democrats get elected. I wrote speeches. I wrote campaign literature. I made friends.

I watched women's rights improve. I watched as my LGBQT+ friends got married legally. But Republicans were still winning elections. There was progress, but it went back and forth again and again. It just didn't seem like Democrats could get on top and stay there. Back and forth. A little progress and then some backing up again. Over and over again.

It didn't get better consistently. Then we ended up with Donald J. Trump. The fact that he won even once was shocking. That he won again was a serious blow to my dreams. We just never seem to get a handle on getting and keeping power, and the other side keeps getting worse and worse. Trump is tearing down all of the progress we had made in previous decades. We had two chances to elect a woman as President. We fucked both of those chances up for very, very petty reasons.

Well, now I'm 80 years old and disappointed. This time, though, I'm also tired. I'm worn out. I'm running down. I'm going to have to let others try. It's too bad, and far from where I hoped we would be as a nation by now. I can no longer do anything about it, so I have to hope that others will take up the challenge and make things happen.

I didn't have children. So, I don't have to worry about the world I leave them. But, there are all the others. We seem to be on a downward path.

More's the fucking pity, folks! More's the pity.

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80 Years of Trying Is Circling Down the Drain (Original Post) MineralMan Yesterday OP
MLK said, "The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice." Ocelot II Yesterday #1
I agree. We should be farther along that arc. MineralMan Yesterday #2
I have always loved that quote (in my opinion one of the best, and most poignant, ever) stopdiggin Yesterday #8
I had a patient who was a quadrapalegic Hornedfrog2000 4 hrs ago #83
LOL popsdenver 20 hrs ago #57
That quote from MLK never made any sense before and it doesn't now NoRethugFriends 14 hrs ago #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Mblaze Yesterday #3
I turned 80 in Dec 2024 AverageOldGuy Yesterday #4
We worked very hard Mblaze Yesterday #5
I'm 75 and when I was 11 years old multigraincracker Yesterday #6
... emulatorloo Yesterday #7
sorry you are feeling tired and down Kali Yesterday #9
I turned 79 this summer. Biophilic Yesterday #10
dear mm. ever since the devistatimg kerry and edwards losss , i have been at a loss. AllaN01Bear Yesterday #11
I am feeling much the same way PatSeg 23 hrs ago #12
right there with you.... markie 23 hrs ago #13
Yes, we carry on. MineralMan 23 hrs ago #14
I was actually thinking this morning... Trueblue Texan 22 hrs ago #30
I was born in 1949. Scruffy1 23 hrs ago #15
Yes. That's what I have done since 1960. MineralMan 23 hrs ago #16
Freedom Is a Constant Struggle struggle4progress 13 hrs ago #80
I'm 81. Your life and mine have a lot of parallels. "Old age ain't for sissies" Bette Davis Ping Tung 23 hrs ago #17
Big K&R for a Big DU Contributor Martin Eden 23 hrs ago #18
Thanks for sharing your hard earned wisdom and perspective! A bit younger, but I shared your disappointment. I have wiggs 23 hrs ago #19
Post removed Post removed 23 hrs ago #20
Uh. no, thanks! MineralMan 23 hrs ago #21
Enjoy your short stay at DU calguy 23 hrs ago #22
I have a feeling you may be a bit too liberal for this website BWdem4life 23 hrs ago #23
You're a real jerk, aren't you Grim Chieftain 23 hrs ago #24
It sure looks like it wendyb-NC 23 hrs ago #25
Happy Birthday 😀 malaise 23 hrs ago #26
Corporate power and capitalism will not allow the kind of progress we yearn for. BWdem4life 23 hrs ago #27
When I was in high school, if a girl got pregnant out of wedlock she had two choices. totodeinhere 23 hrs ago #28
Seeing the same stuff... Trueblue Texan 22 hrs ago #29
On the subject of children and grandchildren popsdenver 20 hrs ago #58
Happy birthday . . . I think. I'm 4 years behind you, but your post feels like going back in the time machine. Vinca 22 hrs ago #31
Thanks for the reply! MineralMan 22 hrs ago #33
Thank you for your heart felt post MineralMan. 1WorldHope 22 hrs ago #32
You have done more than most. At some point, our role becomes to advise the younger LoisB 22 hrs ago #34
Happy Birthday Mineral Man lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #35
Not as happy as I might have liked, I'm afraid. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #36
Thanks for the great history, MM! I've been reading you... keep_left 22 hrs ago #37
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #39
A belated happy birthday, MineralMan - and I hope your birthday yesterday had some real joy, that highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #38
Right there with you. I grew up in the BA, home to the hippies, LGBTQ, alternative lifestyles. 58Sunliner 22 hrs ago #40
Don't feel badly, MM. OldBaldy1701E 22 hrs ago #41
Right there with you Figarosmom 22 hrs ago #42
I feel your pain. riverbendviewgal 22 hrs ago #43
I have a quotation for you nuxvomica 21 hrs ago #44
Congrats on a good life - so far. SleeplessinSoCal 21 hrs ago #45
Soon to be 86 and I have those same feelings! young_at_heart 21 hrs ago #46
I am happy that you remain mentally fit and hale enough to share that with us... Moostache 21 hrs ago #47
These are difficult times. No question about it. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #50
Thank you for all of your service! Tbear 21 hrs ago #48
Excellent post MM. It really is a cruel and unraveling Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #49
Truly, we live in interesting times. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #51
Ironically, it feels like what my Dad and other family members fought against since the civil war. Evolve Dammit 20 hrs ago #53
I think it is always the same fight. Always has been. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #55
MM and other Boomers at DU JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #52
Honestly, we were opening doors for ourselves, mostly. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #54
Until 2023 JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #59
You and I have been on similar paths our whole lives. One key difference: we did have one child. usaf-vet 20 hrs ago #56
You've done very well, I'd say. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #60
Yes. I wrote DU last week about having the same depressing review, see link Dock_Yard 19 hrs ago #61
Thanks for this! madamesilverspurs 19 hrs ago #62
I am also 80. Codifer 19 hrs ago #63
My father was a B-17 co-pilot in England, WWII, fighting a nazi dictator Number9Dream 19 hrs ago #64
Dear MM, sinkingfeeling 18 hrs ago #65
My best wishes to you. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #73
All too relatable, minus the escape to Costa Rica Hekate 14 hrs ago #75
I'm right there with you. Katinfl 18 hrs ago #66
Throughout history social progress has ebbed & flowed. It's never been a simple linear progression. CaptainTruth 17 hrs ago #67
The end of my story remains as yet unwritten DFW 17 hrs ago #68
That is jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Thx so much for this production & post. ❤️ Hekate 14 hrs ago #77
I had imagined in my head MANY years ago DFW 13 hrs ago #79
The Parody Project put it out on their channel as sort of a breather from politics. DFW 3 hrs ago #84
Dear MineralMan, if I may JMCKUSICK 17 hrs ago #69
May it be so. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #74
You accomplished much. creeksneakers2 16 hrs ago #70
Nothing Is Wasted. / You speak for me, MM. Your life has been so much more adventurous than mine ... Hekate 15 hrs ago #71
When the Ship Comes In struggle4progress 15 hrs ago #72
This is one of the most amazing posts.. Permanut 14 hrs ago #78
This message was self-deleted by its author pat_k 12 hrs ago #81
Thank You. You've had a great Life. BurnDoubt 12 hrs ago #82
To Everyone Who Visited This Thread: Thank you so much! MineralMan 1 hr ago #85
And what changed during your 80 and my 78 years? Septua 1 hr ago #86
This Hekate 6 min ago #88
You may be disappointed, but don't be discouraged vanessa_ca 1 hr ago #87

Ocelot II

(126,306 posts)
1. MLK said, "The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice."
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 10:54 AM
Yesterday

Maybe so, but lately it seems like it's not bending much in that direction - maybe it's flatlining. Seems that way, anyhow. Those of us who are long in the tooth might not live to see any more bending of the arc toward justice or even a halfway livable society, and that's disheartening, to say the least, after everything we've watched and participated in for the last 70+ years. I wouldn't say it's all down the drain, but the people who come after us are going to have to start all over again.

MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
2. I agree. We should be farther along that arc.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

But we're not. In fact, it's looking worse. We now have a fascist-leaning populist in our highest office.

We'd better get on this or we won't be able to get off it.

stopdiggin

(14,104 posts)
8. I have always loved that quote (in my opinion one of the best, and most poignant, ever)
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:20 AM
Yesterday

And lately - I find myself clutching it tightly (figuratively to my breast) - as a talisman of hope.

No spring chicken here either - and boy, getting out of bed has been becoming more of a chore ...
And yet, feel like I must - both climb out of bed every day - and retain what hope spirit that I can. Kinda' what I owe ..

And, while I could expound and expostulate about my own thoughts and experience - this is MM's OP - and I'll leave it with his nice (if somewhat discouraged) piece. "I hear ya', old son!"

Hornedfrog2000

(423 posts)
83. I had a patient who was a quadrapalegic
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:22 AM
4 hrs ago

From falling out of bed. I want to say she was in her early 80s. I couldnt imagine how horrible of a way that would be go out, but she could have fallen out of bed at 8 and been handicap her whole life... she was miserable, and i wondered if it was before, or after that happened.

popsdenver

(84 posts)
57. LOL
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:58 PM
20 hrs ago

Not sure Mother Nature is going to make the same mistake again, putting "humans" back on her beloved planet earth...........

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

AverageOldGuy

(2,785 posts)
4. I turned 80 in Dec 2024
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:12 AM
Yesterday

Born and reared in Deep South Mississippi where Jim Crow and the Klan ruled.

As a college student in Ala in the mid 1960’s, I marched in Selma, Montgomery, and B’ham.

Now, same as you, I’m watching it all go down the drain and I’m angry. VERY angry. So angry I worry about what I may do to a MAGAt.

Mblaze

(630 posts)
5. We worked very hard
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:13 AM
Yesterday

But boomers are being blamed for our current state because the backlash to our real progress has been intense and nearly complete. The land of the free doesn't seem to like freedom today.

I also enlisted in the USAF to avoid the draft (and a trip to Viet Nam). It worked.

Here is a smile for you 😀.

Kali

(56,337 posts)
9. sorry you are feeling tired and down
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:22 AM
Yesterday

can't blame anyone for feeling defeated these days.

Biophilic

(5,912 posts)
10. I turned 79 this summer.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

I’m feeling lots of the same anger, frustration and sadness. Yeah, I’m tired and discouraged. And while I have no children of my own I worry about those who are facing a very uncertain future both politically and environmentally. To be honest I didn’t have a clue the size, anger and drive of those opposing the changes we were trying to make.

AllaN01Bear

(26,691 posts)
11. dear mm. ever since the devistatimg kerry and edwards losss , i have been at a loss.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:30 AM
Yesterday

afterr the harris loss i really feel i just exisat day to day any more and hope to be with my late mom soon so i dont have to slug through this time . but i hope i expire on his time and not mine. i just want to go " home "

PatSeg

(50,671 posts)
12. I am feeling much the same way
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:35 AM
23 hrs ago

This paragraph describes perfectly how I feel right now:

"Well, now I'm 80 years old and disappointed. This time, though, I'm also tired. I'm worn out. I'm running down. I'm going to have to let others try. It's too bad, and far from where I hoped we would be as a nation by now. I can no longer do anything about it, so I have to hope that others will take up the challenge and make things happen."


I have been able to reluctantly accept that sometimes it is two steps forward and one step back, as long as we are still moving forward in most respects. I never anticipated that it would get this bad, this quickly. So many years of progress undone in a heartbeat. It is beyond comprehension to me and like you, I am worn out.

markie

(23,527 posts)
13. right there with you....
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:42 AM
23 hrs ago


I'm angry, sad, incredulous, disappointed,........ we carry on





Trueblue Texan

(3,530 posts)
30. I was actually thinking this morning...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:47 PM
22 hrs ago

This feels like active grief...the kind that lives in your heart for the rest of your years. We grieved over the election. The shock of it. The disbelief. But this part feels like the acceptance of the fate we are living--for now. This feels like the acknowledgment that we can't have what was ever again. We have to make a new life for ourselves. We have to make a new democracy that can't be so easily squashed by an illiterate, evil moron. The only consolation is once we finally get to the bottom of this grievous moment, there will be only one direction to move.

Scruffy1

(3,452 posts)
15. I was born in 1949.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:51 AM
23 hrs ago

I too went through the civil rights movement, the anti warr of the sixties and feel dissappointed. We underestimated the power of the corporate media.
tThe internet made it worse.and much easier to spread misinformation. However, I feel progress can only be held back, not stopped. There is always a backlash to change, but it happens anyway. The biggest problem we have now is too many of us are just fighting for the status quo instead of going on the attack. Now is the time to go for a change. Health care could be a game changer after the R's destroy the medicaid program and many more will suffer. On my last trip to the Mississippi Delta in 2019 it really struck me how much has changed since the sixties. Freedom is a constant struggle and we are up against the big money so to me it's like ice hockey: it's what you do when you don't have the puck that's important. Organize in your neighborhood, be there when you are needed.

Ping Tung

(3,162 posts)
17. I'm 81. Your life and mine have a lot of parallels. "Old age ain't for sissies" Bette Davis
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:56 AM
23 hrs ago

Martin Eden

(14,670 posts)
18. Big K&R for a Big DU Contributor
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:01 PM
23 hrs ago

I was born about a month before Sputnik, and have never done much besides vote. I went to a couple protests in early 2003 before GW invaded Iraq, and 5 so far this year.

The American Dream has always been a work in progress. The long arc may be slow, and it's heartbreaking to see it bending back the wrong way.

Thank You for all your efforts for so many decades.

wiggs

(8,321 posts)
19. Thanks for sharing your hard earned wisdom and perspective! A bit younger, but I shared your disappointment. I have
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:07 PM
23 hrs ago

two daughters, which sharpens the sadness.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

BWdem4life

(2,589 posts)
23. I have a feeling you may be a bit too liberal for this website
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:21 PM
23 hrs ago

or something...

Welcome to DU

Grim Chieftain

(440 posts)
24. You're a real jerk, aren't you
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:21 PM
23 hrs ago

Typical MAGA, no principles, no class, only hate and vitriol

Bye

wendyb-NC

(4,417 posts)
25. It sure looks like it
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:22 PM
23 hrs ago

We were making progress, in all the areas that you mention and more. Then this scourge animates the political arena. It's such an outrage and disappointment, big time. As sad and wearying as it is, I will resist in any way I can.

BWdem4life

(2,589 posts)
27. Corporate power and capitalism will not allow the kind of progress we yearn for.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:27 PM
23 hrs ago

The younger crowd doesn't react the same to the word "socialism." This gives me hope. But a revolution will be necessary, power is not relinquished voluntarily. But you know all this. We live in interesting times, unfortunately. I will not leave the country, though I've thought about it. Just have to resist in whatever small ways I can and keep the faith.

totodeinhere

(13,645 posts)
28. When I was in high school, if a girl got pregnant out of wedlock she had two choices.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:31 PM
23 hrs ago

She could either get married or she could leave town. That was how bad it was then. I am from the same generation as you. And I am as upset as you. I am old enough that I probably won't live to see the worst of what is happening to this country. But I am afraid my children and grandchildren will. God help us.

Trueblue Texan

(3,530 posts)
29. Seeing the same stuff...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:40 PM
22 hrs ago

I also have days when I feel I don't have the energy to meet the moment. The protests I've gone to recently have caused me to throw my right shoulder out--nothing new, really--most parts of my body hurt regularly these days, even while I'm lucky enough to have them functioning. I keep doing what I can.

But I'm tired.

I worry there won't be anything left of the constitutional protections for my kids and grandkids. Like you, I have tried so hard but some many days I don't see the point. But as long as I have a little energy left, I can usually talk myself in to doing what needs to be done. Thank goodness for communities like DU that encourage and support our efforts.

Maybe this feeling of so much being left undone is normal as we approach the twilight years. But it seems what should be a willingness to let go of this life at this stage in our years, is instead filled with panicky need to hang on until we can bring sanity back into the leadership running the country. It probably doesn't help to know, but we all feel your pain.

Hope you get to spend quiet, healing time in nature today, maybe staring at a glorious sunset or shoreline.

Peace.

popsdenver

(84 posts)
58. On the subject of children and grandchildren
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:10 PM
20 hrs ago

Lincoln once said: A statesman is interested in the next generation, a Politician only in the next election.............

Since this New Republican CABAL doesn't care about Children and/or Grandchildren, I have to believe they only care about themselves. Period.

Or making sure that only THEIR children and grandchildren are taken care of by dragging them into the upper 1%.........

Again, I feel the perfect title for a book covering the last 45+ years would be: WHILE THE NATION SLEPT

OR seemingly my most appropriate statement:

They were walking down the Jungle Path swatting at mosquitoes, and were oblivious to the Herd of Charging Elephants......pun intended.....

Vinca

(52,458 posts)
31. Happy birthday . . . I think. I'm 4 years behind you, but your post feels like going back in the time machine.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:51 PM
22 hrs ago

Sometimes I think of all the things we've witnessed during our lifetimes - good and bad - and wonder how the hell we went from "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" to Trump. As a woman, I've always hoped I would see a woman POTUS sworn in, but it's not looking like it will happen in my lifetime. Like you, we decided not to have kids and that's one thing I'm grateful for. I see young mothers with their infants and feel sad at what the world has become and how the planet many not even be habitable for them at some point. Never thought I'd be at this stage of life in this frame of mind.

1WorldHope

(1,483 posts)
32. Thank you for your heart felt post MineralMan.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:52 PM
22 hrs ago

You just told the story of a generation. We really did fight for something better. This is a disappointment of a lifetime. May wiser souls prevail. 💙

LoisB

(11,185 posts)
34. You have done more than most. At some point, our role becomes to advise the younger
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:53 PM
22 hrs ago

ones who can continue the activism. Your mind is still sharp. Happy Birthday.

keep_left

(2,985 posts)
37. Thanks for the great history, MM! I've been reading you...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:22 PM
22 hrs ago

...for years and so I've gleaned some of this already from your many posts, but it's great to have it summed up so well in one statement. And it's such a strong statement (you are a writer by profession, after all) that I can only hope to make a couple of brief points.

1) I think everyone here is weary, regardless of age or health. You are no doubt correct about the morons who elected Trump not just once, but twice. However, as some have said (and you imply in your own statement), Trump is just a symptom of a larger problem. The problem is a uniquely American strain of what historian Morris Berman calls "the Anglo disease", seen to varying extents in all English-speaking countries. I would recommend that everyone read Berman, starting with his "America trilogy" of books. The most accessible of these is The Twilight of American Culture (2000). It's a fast read (I did so in one night).

2) As you say, "[the nation] didn't get better consistently." As a Gen Xer, one of the most difficult things to have witnessed myself is how so many of the world's great moral leaders (e.g. Gandhi, King) are cut down just as they are beginning to do some good. As is said in the Gospels, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house” (Matthew 13:57). I was born at the tail end of 1968, a year that saw two of this country's best (King and RFK) murdered within two months of each other.

Having said that, part of me somehow retains a tiny seed of the patience seen in Buddhism (a faith which I do not profess): life is a process, ever-unfolding. We all each get only one vote in this existence, and to short-circuit that process often ends up in tragedy. One can easily see this in the billionaire class trying to dictate to the world how it should spin. History tells us that this will not end well.

I don't know what the solution is. Part of me also agrees with George Carlin, who once famously said that "America is an extremely limited experiment in democracy". And on Keith Olbermann's show, he simply stated "this country's finished". I have to say that I don't agree with Carlin, and yet, I wouldn't bet against him either.

highplainsdem

(57,575 posts)
38. A belated happy birthday, MineralMan - and I hope your birthday yesterday had some real joy, that
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:23 PM
22 hrs ago

you celebrated with loved ones, even if you feel tired today.

I'm younger than you, but like many others replying here, there are parallels in what we've experienced.

I hit - thought I'd hit - maximum tiredness myself after years of 24/7 caregiving, and I added stupid feelings of guilt to it beating myself up for not having been able to get my mom physically healthy again, in her 90s, despite her having the family heart problems, and a very rare swallowing disorder, and finally both vascular dementia and Alzheimer's. I remember lots of nights with less than 5 hours' sleep, and a physical therapy aide there after Mom broke a hip telling me I was trying to do the work of 7 or 8 people. I still thought I could, and it was mostly physical exhaustion, though worsened by guilt and self-recrimination. I would've probably ended up sick myself if I hadn't known a lot about diet, exercise, and coping with stress.

Then, after she'd passed and I'd gone through the usual caregiver mourning and self-questioning (which I'm now trying to help a cousin through after my aunt's death), I thought I was ready to pick up some parts of my life that had been set aside because of necessary caregiving.

Only to soon see what damage generative AI could do. Huge threat to so many people. In fact, for a while it seemed much more of a threat than Trump was, because it seemed less likely a couple of years ago that Trump would ever be back in the White House and consolidating power as much as he has. I remember George Soros naming AI and climate change, in that order, as the greatest threats we faced, back in 2023.

I'm not against tech advances. I had a PC and laser printer in the 1980s, first got online then before there was a world wide web, and thought it was wonderful. But I wasn't blind to later problems with the internet and social media, and I realized genAI was the most harmful non-military tech we'd seen, the last thing we needed.

Just as Trump was the last type of politician we needed.

I'm not as physically tired as I was during that time of 24/7 caregiving and minimal sleep. But I am really pissed off that instead of focusing on what I'd prefer to focus on, there are crises that demand attention, and that make it important to try to make others aware of them.

I do know younger generations are aware of those crises, even if our US media might not be making us aware of that. I see news outlets in other countries that put more emphasis on those issues - whether Trump or AI or climate change or the insane dictators and warmongers we hate - than mainstream US media tend to. And that gives me hope, and hope is invaluable. It sustains people, even through long struggles.

On a personal level, it makes me feel less tired.

And I might even find a bit more time to focus on those things I'd prefer to focus all my time and energy on, if there wasn't all the damn news about Trump and AI and psychopathic warmongers.

58Sunliner

(5,904 posts)
40. Right there with you. I grew up in the BA, home to the hippies, LGBTQ, alternative lifestyles.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:26 PM
22 hrs ago

A hotbed of activism. It is horrible how far we have fallen.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,480 posts)
41. Don't feel badly, MM.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:27 PM
22 hrs ago

Many of us are doing the same thing. Some of us are pretty much walking corpses because of that single truth.

We accomplished little or nothing when it comes to what we envisioned for ourselves and our country.

It is hard to even think about it because it hurts too much.

Figarosmom

(7,252 posts)
42. Right there with you
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:30 PM
22 hrs ago

And the saddest part is that it is yhe form of government we fight for that I'd allowing all this degradation to happen.

We will turn this around and live to see it.

riverbendviewgal

(4,363 posts)
43. I feel your pain.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
22 hrs ago

I am 77. I got to change countries in 69 to Canada. No regrets, especially after JFK. MLK and Bobby assassinated.

There was optimism when Carter was elected but that soon passed and Howdy Doody was sworn in. He was the first president puppet I saw. It was the beginning of the downside. I thought that Obama was the light at the end of the tunnel. Nope.



My US history teacher in 1964 wisely told us that our democracy would implode from within. He turned out to be correct.

Maybe AI will steer us on the correct path.

nuxvomica

(13,495 posts)
44. I have a quotation for you
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:38 PM
21 hrs ago
"The important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win, but to take part; the important thing in Life is not triumph, but the struggle; the essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well. To spread these principles is to build up a strong and more valiant and, above all, more scrupulous and more generous humanity."
Pierre de Coubertin, father of the modern Olympic Games.

All that can be asked of us as human beings is to be the hero of our lives, the one who answers the call to protect the innocent and transform the world into a safer place for them. It is a role taken on reluctantly because it involves sacrifice without the promise of reward. It's difficult but necessary to answer the call, which is why myth and literature for thousands of years have been used to encourage us to do so. This is ultimately what gives our lives meaning. Everything you have done has not been for naught. The cycle continues and those you helped yesterday will be the heroes of tomorrow. Happy birthday!

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,216 posts)
45. Congrats on a good life - so far.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 01:45 PM
21 hrs ago

I blame myself for much of our ills today when I got sucked in to voting for Reagan twice. That started us down the path we're on. So much greed that they believe is good and that I was clueless about.

I've tried to make amends. Ibkeep trying. It's just mind blowing how horrible we've become.

young_at_heart

(3,954 posts)
46. Soon to be 86 and I have those same feelings!
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:02 PM
21 hrs ago

You put into words what I think about regularly (I don't want to do this, but it happens nonetheless). I know that my time is nearly up and I can't stand knowing that the country I knew for so many years has all but disappeared. I'm embarrassed to admit that there are times when I just can't stop the tears.

Moostache

(10,705 posts)
47. I am happy that you remain mentally fit and hale enough to share that with us...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:11 PM
21 hrs ago

My own father is 83 now and suffering from progressive dementia and the effects that has after his own litany of woe that makes my head hurt still. Since the pandemic, my father has lost his wife (my mother) to COVID-19, his mobility and self-reliance (to a stroke and subsequent long-term effects), his continence (to bladder cancer), his ability to travel and move about freely (to a fall and broken hip) and his memory is slowly fading as well. He spent a lifetime raising my brother, my sister and I to be emphathetic people, to care more about fairness and justice than "getting one over" on someone. He modeled what it meant to be a husband for me to follow (after a 52 year marriage to my mother, that while not without its fair share of challenges), and is STILL my north star and one that I hope I am half as successful modelling for my children. I can't face myself some days when I fail to visit him because of the stress it creates for me.

My personal weakness is magnified by events like when he failed to recognize me for the first time ever a couple weeks back. That rocked my world as much as anything since we lost Mom in November of 2020, just days after the election.

It has felt (personally) like a non-stop demolition derby ever since that. Despite the accomplishments and efforts of the Biden administration, nothing ever really seemed to make Trump go the fuck away. He was a candidate from the day after the 2020 election and the fact that he was not held to account by the Senate for January 6th was the death knell of the first American Republic in my mind. Everything since last November has been just bad news on top of bad news on toip of worse news. I don't know what to do about it. I have had a lifetime of watching mass protests (from the antiwar efforts in 1990 and again in 2002, to the anti-gun violemence marches and the #Me Too movement to the BLM movement and George Floyd) time and time and time again get some temporary attention only to fade into the next sensational news "story" of the moment.

We have devolved into an unserious nation of toddlers screaming at their parents that they don't want to go to bed, they don't want to eat their vegetables, they don't want to study, they don't want to care about others' feelings. It is hurtful to watch and live, but its crushing to see it sap the will of those who have spent far longer than I trying to make it a little better.

I lack the answers or even a good idea of what to do to save this nation from splitting into a second American republic and a second American confederacy, but I don't see it ever happening peacefully or without massive human tolls being extracted. It hurts my soul to see MineralMan express the kind of frustration and sense of forboding or loss that I am going through because for years here at DU I have read his posts and material with great admiration and interest. He has modelled much of what I value and respect and to see him hurting is soul crushing all over again.

I wish there was a path ahead that did not appear to be doom and gloom. I truly do. I just do not see it - on a personal level, on a local level, on a national level and on an international level, humanity is surfing a wave of stupidity, immaturity and greed than is swamping everything of real value on this Earth. It is threatening to leave a smoldering cinder or a greenhouse amok hellscape or a Mad Maxian dystopia of highway mauraders and anarchy.

What just kills me is that there WERE BETTER OPTIONS ALL ALONG. People have been lied to, misled, used and soon will be discarded for the advantage of a select few and the benefit of a puny minority and their undeserving progeny.

MM...if it is any consolation, your work here and the things you have shared have been a candle in the dark for me for ages now and I truly hope we get to a happier place before your final farewells are given. Godspeed good sir and best wishes for health and happier memories with loved ones, family and friends.

MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
50. These are difficult times. No question about it.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:38 PM
20 hrs ago

I lost both parents on January 6, 2021. Covid-19. They died within an hour of each other, both at the age of 96. Then, the nastiness at the Capitol occurred on the same day. Nothing has been as terrible for me since then, despite lots of grief and sadness.

Life is a constant struggle, to be sure. We try our best, but we are definitely not in control of things beyond our immediate surroundings. I know of no way to get past that, other than to look at it as more of a spectator than a participant.

If I'm feeling bad about the state of things, I have only to look around a little to find people who are dealing with horrors I cannot even imagine. Those balance things out for me and I feel a bit better.

In the two days prior to this year's birthday, I had two evenings out for supper with friends. First was a large gathering of my wife's cousins, who have become like family to me since we moved to Minnesota. We went to my favorite Neapolitan pizza place. Much laughter and telling of tales. The next night we went to dinner with four of my wife's childhood and school mates. My joke was that it was one of those rare times when I was on a date with five women. They, too, have become my friends here.

I guess that is the solution. Have friends and spend time with them when you can. The rest will do what it will do.

Evolve Dammit

(21,108 posts)
49. Excellent post MM. It really is a cruel and unraveling
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:29 PM
21 hrs ago

Of all things decent that we are witnessing. And they love it. I have lost so much respect over the last nine years for all on the right.
I wish them all the ill will I can muster for the uneccesary pain they have released, all architected by the real owners of a society that once held amazing ideals and enacted many advances. Now they just want it burned to the ground. They know not what they will reap, but they will find out.
Sucks we have to go along for the ride.
Take care, ED

Evolve Dammit

(21,108 posts)
53. Ironically, it feels like what my Dad and other family members fought against since the civil war.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:43 PM
20 hrs ago

MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
55. I think it is always the same fight. Always has been.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:48 PM
20 hrs ago

It shifts around some, but the battle is always about the same things. You'd think we'd get better at it, though.

JustAnotherGen

(35,989 posts)
52. MM and other Boomers at DU
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:42 PM
20 hrs ago

Thank you for all you did. You opened a few more doors that were closed for me.

Love,
JustAnotherGeneration X-Er Black Woman

PS - For me - you guys were the GOAT Generation. The absolute best!

MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
54. Honestly, we were opening doors for ourselves, mostly.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:46 PM
20 hrs ago

We were always glad when others went through them, too, but we were also looking after ourselves.

If we fought for equality, it was partly so we would have equality and so those we know would find that, as well.

JustAnotherGen

(35,989 posts)
59. Until 2023
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:11 PM
20 hrs ago

My business career was concentrated in Technology, Telecom, Big Data. Without Bill Gates - there was nowhere for me sneak in the back door.

My mom passed away last year - born in 1947. Exec VP at a Hotel Management company - but she never made even HALF of what I made as a low-level manager. The number of women that came up to me at her wake and said without Diane - they wouldn't have been where they are . . .

Was astounding. Woman did everything I did backwards in 3 inch high heels put a massive crack in the glass ceiling.

usaf-vet

(7,622 posts)
56. You and I have been on similar paths our whole lives. One key difference: we did have one child.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:50 PM
20 hrs ago

I went straight into the U.S. Air Force out of high school—literally right after my last day. Two friends and I had made a pact to walk to the recruiter’s office and enlist. What we didn’t realize was that all five branches shared that same office space: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard. Depending on the day, a different recruiter would be there. As fate would have it, all three of us ended up in the Air Force. To this day, I still shiver thinking about how easily our paths could’ve been different.

Though my grandfather served in WWI (Army, France) and my dad in WWII (Navy Intelligence, intercepting German and later Japanese codes), my dad was not happy I’d enlisted. But I was 18—and that was that. I believed he thought the family had already done their bit in the two previous wars. And he didn't want to lose his only son in a jungle in Southeast Asia.

I served four years as a USAF medic, never left the U.S., and returned home in 1969. A year later, by November 1970, I had married a young girl my whole family adored. I had five sisters, and my dad affectionately called her “number six” from the day he met her. She went on to college and became a physical therapist. She would spend time with my family when she was home from college and I was away in the military. After marriage, I bought, owned, and operated a local ambulance service. Our son was born in 1973.

We moved to a midwestern state for a change and to be near my oldest sister and her husband, who was the brother I never had and my wife's best female friend to this day.

My wife and I committed ourselves to making the world a better place, especially for the “least among us.” We adopted three additional children, all with special needs. One had physical disabilities that required a mother trained in PT and a father with medical experience. The other two—biological siblings—came to us as an emergency placement. They were just 4 and 3 years old.

We raised all three to adulthood and saw them through high school. The brother and sister both enlisted in the Army, one year apart, and completed four-year terms. She served in military intelligence, initially as a Russian linguist. He became a cook. Both met partners while serving, married, and eventually settled in their spouses' home states.

Our disabled son remained in our hometown and became a fixture in the community. He used a wheelchair and was well-known around town. He passed at the age of 36, which didn't align with what the medical experts had cautiously predicted that he would not make it past his late teens. The city honored him by naming a new underpass after him—his portrait graces both entrances.

My wife and I have now been married for 55 years and are retired. Our biological son, who is now 52, works with troubled youth. He founded a year-round program for 12–18-year-olds that focuses on helping each participant identify their goals and then pairing them with mentors to assist them in developing the necessary skills.

I served as an elected school board member and helped consolidate three outdated, non-handicapped-accessible, asbestos-laden schools into one new elementary school, fully equipped to serve all children.

My wife and I are still politically active, both online and in our community. She sits on the handicapped parking committee. I spend several hours a day on DU, doing what I can to help reverse the political nightmare we’re living through.

We’re both stunned at how one-sided this country has become—and it’s hard to see a clear path forward. We donate directly to the candidates and causes we believe in, always by check, and without including anything that would land us on another endless mailing list.

Still, I wake up each morning to 18–25 new donation requests. It’s overwhelming. Right now, we’re focusing our support on Leaders We Deserve. It’s time to clear out the dead weight—those collecting paychecks while doing nothing to risk their seats or stand for what’s right.

I sure wish we had been able to leave our kids a better world than the one they are apparently going to inherit.

MineralMan

(149,571 posts)
60. You've done very well, I'd say.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:12 PM
20 hrs ago

Maybe your kids will find a way to make things better. As long as you can, though, I know you'll keep trying. So will I, despite being discouraged.

madamesilverspurs

(16,323 posts)
62. Thanks for this!
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 04:03 PM
19 hrs ago

Sometimes it seems that misery really does love company. In this time, however, it's more "WTF loves company."

At 77, I can be clearly seen in your rearview mirror. So says my brother who turns 80 in a couple months. Your comments about how girls and women were treated really hit home; there have been many times when it seemed my brother and I were raised by different parents. He and I have talked about it, and we're both grateful that he reset his sails and set a better course.

After high school I bounced around the country for a number of years, coast to coast and back again, no particular goal in mind. I did manage to participate in a number of protests, although some of those memories are a bit fuzzy, clouded by a regrettable fog of booze and weed. When the time was right, I set aside the fog machine and finally took ownership of my life. I came home to Colorado and have been here ever since.

Of late, I've been really missing those days of rampant, unabashed enthusiasm for our groundbreaking candidate. The energy was palpable, our Dem offices and campaign HQs too small to contain all the volunteers. By then I wasn't able to walk the neighborhoods, but I could do data entry. And I put my button machine to good use and filled a grocery bag with buttons I handed out at our election night party: the Obama sun with the words "Yes WE did!" That room was packed, and when the votes rolled over to victory we burst outside and literally danced in the street on that cold but joyous November night.

These days I'm mostly at home, thanks to crunchy bones and lungs that run out of air walking from one room to the next. I miss being with those who are out there, miss being one of the sign-wavers. But I have markers and paints and brushes and a steady supply of cardboard with which to equip those who march; in that, I'm grateful that my involvement is ongoing, if somewhat less energetic. My sister and brother live a few states away, but we exchange ideas for signage, all while missing our other brother who is firmly entrenched in the trump camp. Who knows, maybe some day he will hear us. Hope springs eternal, we are told.

Meanwhile, I could maunder on and on. But, as it happens, there are two protests this weekend and my brushes are calling. I am content to be facing the right direction, and welcome anyone who wants to share that journey with me.

Right on.

.

Codifer

(1,018 posts)
63. I am also 80.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 04:20 PM
19 hrs ago

In reading your post I got the eerie feeling that we grew up in the same general area. I was raised in the San Gorgonio pass... I am guessing you to be Riverside or Redlands?

Number9Dream

(1,809 posts)
64. My father was a B-17 co-pilot in England, WWII, fighting a nazi dictator
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 04:25 PM
19 hrs ago

These days, I feel like we have an orange Hitler right here, enabled by his own nazi party and a corrupt Supreme Court. It's difficult not to get depressed and angry.

sinkingfeeling

(56,001 posts)
65. Dear MM,
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 04:38 PM
18 hrs ago

I'm sitting in a small cafe in rural Costa Rica reading your post, with tears streaming down my cheeks. I just turned 77 and feel like everything I worked for, believed in, and loved in the US is gone. Some here called me a 'doomer' because I doubt the pieces can ever be put back together. I just found it all too painful and for my sanity's sake, I have fled.
I'm not sure if I will be able to de-stress here or not. I seek peace and a cure for my broken heart.
Take care.

Katinfl

(440 posts)
66. I'm right there with you.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:07 PM
18 hrs ago

At 78 years old, I hope I will outlive him and see the country back to what it once was. I have no intention of going anywhere anytime soon, but still........I never thought I would be happy to not have any grandchildren (only one child, not married, grandchildren not possible), but I am. I do not have to worry about their future. More's the pity, exactly.

CaptainTruth

(7,800 posts)
67. Throughout history social progress has ebbed & flowed. It's never been a simple linear progression.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:50 PM
17 hrs ago

For example, when Hitler & Mussolini rose to power did that continue in a straight line to a fascist takeover of the world? No, it did not. It prompted a serious backlash, a global (majority global anyway) rejection of their philosophy. That's just one example but the same thing has happened over & over again over the course of human history. Why would anyone think that today it's suddenly different? What evidence is there for the conclusion that human progress has now stopped ebbing & flowing, that some profound fundamental change has taken place in the evolution of human society (what change?), & the path of human societal change is now forever locked into the most recent path of Trumpian evil?

I don't mean to get on your case & be confrontational, I'm just trying to explain my view of the bigger picture. I hope that makes sense.

In a way, this all reminds me of people who, when there's a record cold winter day say "See, it's record cold, there's no global warming." They're reacting to recent short-term conditions, not the larger overall trend. Trump is the recent short-term condition. I'll need compelling evidence to convince me that Trumpism represents the long-term trend of human society. That all the good we worked for is truly lost.

I hope I've explained myself well, I've learned that sometimes I'm not very good at it.

DFW

(58,596 posts)
68. The end of my story remains as yet unwritten
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:59 PM
17 hrs ago

I got used to « losing » elections early. My first election ever, I proudly voted Republican. In 1971, the corrupt Philadelphia Democratic machine nominated the oafish thug Frank Rizzo, then the hated police commissioner, for mayor. The Republicans nominated a mild-mannered well-meaning bureaucrat. He lost. The next year, the Democrats nationally nominated McGovern. It was obvious then that he’d lose. My first ray of hope came in Borås, Sweden, where I stayed up all night in a tiny hotel watching the first win of a president that I had voted for.

Three years later, i celebrated with friends in France when the unwelcome Ayatollah finally went home. A year later, I watched in horror as Reagan was elected as one of the unintended consequences.

In 1982, I was already spending more time out of the USA than I was in it. The Reagan recession drove two fierce business rivals to the conclusion that they could either merge or perish. They wisely chose to merge. One was my employer of the past 7 years, and I was the last man standing to not desert the ship. In 3 weeks, we celebrate 50 years on the job for me. I was invited by Castro’s government to visit Cuba in 1982, an invitation I accepted. We also visited East Germany various times. We got to see socialism in practice and decided it was not for us.


In 1982, I also married the girl of my dreams in a double wedding with my brother. My wife was from Germany, and his was from Japan. The event was called « the Axis Wedding » by the Washington press, of which our father was a prominent member. Both wives wanted children, and both my brother and I were OK with that. So, I got two half-German daughters and my brother got two half Japanese sons. We all made sure all four grandchildren got dual nationality, so that they could choose to live in either country of their heritage when the time came. My wife and I spoke to our children only in out native languages, so that they could become fluent in both. My brother’s wife, sadly, refused to speak to her sons in Japanese, so they have only English as a native language, although my younger nephew has since become proficient in speaking and reading Arabic. He is also learning Ukrainian, since he has been living in Kyiv for close to four years. Our children have chosen very diverse careers in different countries. Our grandchildren mirror my parents’ grandchildren: two boys in North America, two girls in Europe. All four are already fluent in English and German, and have US and EU passports.

And so we have fought our way through the goings on. I have had heart issues, and genetics says cancer is due any day now (not so far, though). We are both 73 and the genetic odds say I don’t make it to 80. My wife has had cancer twice already, and beaten it twice. We don’t really have much of a choice. We’ll take what the genetic lottery draws for us, and play the hands as best we can.

Back home, I watch as my native land does its very best to commit suicide with one hand, and prevent it with the other. I don’t have two passports, and neither does my wife. I do have a permanent EU (German) residence/work permit, which I retain at the whim of the bureaucrats in Berlin, though quarterly tax payments of about $50,000 each probably provide some incentive for them to let me stay. I receive nothing in return.

My wife and I are halfway through our annual month on Cape Cod, USA, which we use each year for much needed battery recharging. The food, the people, the sunsets, the water—they remind us why we put up with everything else during the rest of the year.

A while ago, I made the following video for just such moments:



For the record, I am the composer, and recorded the guitars and the synthesizer. My friends from The Freedom Toast did the rest, all done at our studio in Atlanta.

Hekate

(98,682 posts)
77. That is jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Thx so much for this production & post. ❤️
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:13 PM
14 hrs ago

DFW

(58,596 posts)
79. I had imagined in my head MANY years ago
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 10:22 PM
13 hrs ago

I just never got around to making it happen.

So FINALLY I did.

DFW

(58,596 posts)
84. The Parody Project put it out on their channel as sort of a breather from politics.
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:35 AM
3 hrs ago

That is indeed what it was intended for, anyway. Just a meager artistic statement from someone who was never much of an artist.

JMCKUSICK

(3,289 posts)
69. Dear MineralMan, if I may
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 06:14 PM
17 hrs ago

What a wonderful story, in a post I just finished, I made reference in my last sentence or two the "Encyclopedia that is DU",
You of course are that encyclopedia, certainly many entries would qualify as yours. I'm moved to write with only one exhortation, your entire post reflects the ups and downs of progress and the ebbs and flows are certainly not controlled or well managed in most cases.
Please know we are most definitively in an ebb, and yet where we are in that ebb is far further ahead of the 1930s and sixties among others.
One monumental difference is how much more difficult it will be to install Authoritarianism geographically in this country. I'm not talking about politics, I'm referring to you and me no matter where we might be. There aren't enough ICE or police or soldiers or marshals or trumpsters to control us.
What will come of this will be similar to post WWII. Rapid social and economic recalibration with the billionaire class having their assets seized or taxed in the interests of societal good. This may well be the very last hurrah of Authoritarianism as it will finally be rejected, and I dare say even the Middle East will come along.
Justice will have a universal meaning and application. As will mercy, compassion, stewardship (even if it's too late in some ways.)
I'm not painting a picture of rainbows and Unicorns, there will be a lot of pain and adjustment to a new world, but the male dominated society that has kept this way of being is done.
Have Faith my friend, and thank you again.
Love John

creeksneakers2

(7,727 posts)
70. You accomplished much.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 06:52 PM
16 hrs ago

For a few years after I was born we had segregated lunch counters some places. Since then we elected a black president. It doesn't all come at once but we'll get there. Your contributions were important and they mattered.

Hekate

(98,682 posts)
71. Nothing Is Wasted. / You speak for me, MM. Your life has been so much more adventurous than mine ...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 08:04 PM
15 hrs ago

…and I so admire that. You have been a voice for action, reason, and progress here and everywhere you’ve lived.

I have done what I could, and felt it was to good effect. Yet a month or two ago I said to some people who know me IRL that “It was all for naught, “ and it shocked the hell out of them. Remind me not to do that again to my friends, no matter what whispers to me in the dark depths of night.

And — let me say this to you, to myself, to everyone here: Nothing Is Wasted.

First, America is not alone in stupidity. The world itself is in some measure regressing, as I saw during Trump’s first term. Fascism apparently is a Siren call for many across the world. It’s bad, it’s rotten, and it’s here as well. It seems to be some kind of historical cycle, and though it may pass, we are in it and it may not pass in our lifetimes. This is exacerbated beyond belief by technology, especially AI. I saw this during Trump’s first term.

Second, Americans who see what’s happening are not alone in resisting. It’s just that people overseas and across the border are not able to fix our country for us.

Third, our generation is passing, though we’re not gone yet.

Somehow it seems our cohort has been singled out as troublemakers forever — and it’s been useful to liars and political manipulators. I remember when it was “our” fault that classrooms were overfull. Then we were “all” dope-smoking sex-crazed hippies. Then “we” burned our draft cards and bras, respectively. Then, even as our brothers and friends were sent to Vietnam to be slaughtered wholesale, we were “all” bomb-making molotov-cocktail throwing anti-war rioters.

And now that all of us are certifiably old, “we” are accused of having taken more than our “share” , of still taking more than our share, and “we” are collectively responsible for the stomach-churning backlash occasioned by/but not caused by the election of Barack Obama. This does not even comport with the facts.

During the BushCheney admin I would shake my head in bafflement and ask “Who does this serve?! “ and my friend Dottie, an accountant who was volunteering along with me with the local VFP, would say, “Follow the money. “

I feel ground down. I feel like the powerful of the world, who acknowledge no borders, nor allegiance to any laws, have made clear to me that I and we are small and they are Big. They most certainly followed the money!

I am tired — it truly is becoming a task for the next gen and the next. I’m still here and will try to do what I can, though I feel diminished as my energy flags. I sincerely hope the generations who are so eager to replace us are up to the task. They will have to be.

Optimism? Not much any more. Yet 30 years ago when I was applying for grad school and trying to, I dunno, justify my work and achievements for an academic setting, I realized: Nothing Is Wasted. I got in, did the work, earned my 2 grad degrees, then marched off to anti-war instead of continuing in academia. In doing and doing I forgot my modest epiphany, but I emphasize its truth again.

My dear friend — and all who may read this — hold to this: nothing you have done is wasted. The coming generations will have to do their best, is all.

Nothing is Wasted

Nothing is Wasted

Nothing is Wasted



struggle4progress

(123,889 posts)
72. When the Ship Comes In
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 08:22 PM
15 hrs ago


... the words that are used for to get the ship confused
will not be understood as they're spoken
for the chains of the sea will have busted in the night
and will be buried at the bottom of the ocean ...

Oh, the foes will rise with the sleep still in their eyes
and they'll jerk from their beds and think they're dreamin
but they'll pinch themselves and squeal and know that it's for real
the hour when the ship comes in

Then they'll raise their hands sayin we'll meet all your demands
but we'll shout from the bow your days are numbered
and like Pharaoh's tribe they'll be drownded in the tide
and like Goliath, they'll be conquered

Permanut

(7,389 posts)
78. This is one of the most amazing posts..
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:31 PM
14 hrs ago

I've seen in my 17 years here - along with the responses.

Navy vet here, will be 80 in December.

Every single thing in this thread resonates with me every day.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

BurnDoubt

(871 posts)
82. Thank You. You've had a great Life.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:27 PM
12 hrs ago

I wish for all of us that others will fill your shoes, and the need.
I thought we were on the up side of the incline, but it was a trick of perception, and the snakes were all around us all along. Now the Python has us all snuggled-up and every time we breathe out or struggle, he hugs a little tighter.
I was hoping for a more prosaic tableau here at this end of the aging continuum, but the struggle goes on.
Tiresome Dickheads.

Septua

(2,826 posts)
86. And what changed during your 80 and my 78 years?
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 10:09 AM
1 hr ago

The white percentage of the population went from 90 to 60...

Cancel Culture became a political topic...

Immigration went from 250,000 to 1,000,000...

Corporate greed came into being...

10% of the wealthy control 2/3 of the wealth...

Too many of that 10% don't want to pay for food stamps or Medicaid...

Too many of the aforementioned 60% don't want to pay for food stamps or Medicaid...

Global warming became an issue to deal with...

Etc, etc, etc...

I've said it before, will say it again and election results confirm it. Half the people in the country want to go back in time to 1950. And Donald J Trump Sr gave them permission to pursue the dream.







vanessa_ca

(381 posts)
87. You may be disappointed, but don't be discouraged
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 10:14 AM
1 hr ago

I don't know you, but from what I gather you're leaving a fine legacy for others to build on. The battle isn't over yet! Be proud of all you've done and the wisdom you've spread around. It will bear fruit!

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