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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere are two things you can count on to happen every single day in 2025.
1. The president of the United States will say or tweet something stupid.
2. There will be a mass shooting.
I am so sick and tired of both of them.

TnDem
(1,390 posts)Number two...No
MIButterfly
(1,178 posts)That averages out to at least one a day. A mass shooting is considered four or more people.
I submit that even one is one too many. And it does seem that it happens every day.
TnDem
(1,390 posts)And many of them were in states that have oppressive gun regulation. How can shootings happen where guns are illegal?
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)TnDem
(1,390 posts)In other words, if I live in rural Indiana and guns are commonplace with virtually no crime involving guns, then why does Chicago right across the state line have all of the shootings and Indiana doesn't?
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)Check out the Heller decision
TnDem
(1,390 posts)and Illinois in general....Extremely un-gun friendly and rural Indiana the opposite. That sounds like a "drugs, poverty and the usual" problem and not guns.
In fact, until my party learns to shut up about guns, they will continually struggle with rural Democratic voters who understand the issue and the actual things involved with firearms.
Ask me anything.
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)We need a strict national gun policy to get a handle on the daily death toll. Just like other countries that dont have our little gun problem
TnDem
(1,390 posts)Why doesn't rural Tennessee have nightly gang shootings that account for the majority of the tallied "mass shooting" total?
If, (as you say), Tennessee has the guns, then why doesn't Tennessee have the problem? The only places in Tennessee that have daily gun violence are Memphis, Nashville and Chattanooga mainly.
Every neighbor I have has a safe full of guns, yet we don't have any issues with "mass shootings"?
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)Its not some shining example of a safe gunners paradise.
Check out this report from Johns Hopkins
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/gun-violence-data/state-gun-violence-data/tennessee
TnDem
(1,390 posts)Johns Hopkins report that you provided....Y'know, the ones that start with "42X" and "13X".
You don't think maybe skews the results for the entire state?
Like I said, Memphis, Nashville, Chattanooga...it's good that Johns Hopkins agrees.
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)The whole country would be better off with it.
Rural gun violence may be lower, but it still exists and if it happens to you or a loved its 100 percent bad. You just have to look how other countries do it - they dont consider city people to be separate from rural like we do here.
We have a massive divide where the rurals seem completely indifferent to the pain of people in cities in their own states! And when they try to deal with it they get told no by the Supreme Court.
TnDem
(1,390 posts)Why is it that vast swaths of this state, (or picky any state), have MASSIVE death in the cities and it points to the very demographic that the Johns Hopkins link concludes?
I have lived here 40 years and I can only think of one other gun death that involved more than one person, and that was 20 years ago. It just doesn't happen.
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)TnDem
(1,390 posts)Because I like the second amendment, my Democratic neighbors like the second amendment and we also like to win elections.
Every time guns are hammered, we lose thousands of votes in vast areas of the country.
paleotn
(20,814 posts)They cut through the anecdotal biases and a host of fallacies. Here's one for you...it seems the more people you have in one area, the more gun deaths. How'd that happen? But if I normalize the data so it's actually comparable, gee! I'm safer in downtown Manhattan than BF Egypt Alabama. Really, it's a very complex issue you're oversimplifying with your "neighbors with gun safes choke full of gunzzzz!"
An interesting article that might shed some light. Death rates per 100K. Probabilities of being killed by firearms. The impact of cultural differences. Socio-economics. Interesting stuff.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413
And this. I wonder what's wrong in Mississippi. Not a hot bed of high density metro areas. Yet.....
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/sr_25-03-05_gun-deaths_4/
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TnDem
(1,390 posts)mikeysnot
(4,862 posts)TnDem
(1,390 posts)You weren't in the thread.
mikeysnot
(4,862 posts)Moving on
TnDem
(1,390 posts)North Coast Lawyer
(159 posts)Illinois and Tennessee have almost identical murder rates (TN's is a tad higher than IL's). Memphis's murder rate is higher than Chicago's.
Gordcanuck
(128 posts)their surplus to Canada. Our problem here is guns not fentanyl. 🇨🇦
One solution? Check out Australia for a recent but successful mitigation.
wordstroken
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Scrivener7
(56,965 posts)Rural Mississippi has the country's highest per capita gun death rate.
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North Coast Lawyer
(159 posts)Red states like Tennessee have the highest murder rates. Indeed Tennessee's murder rate is more than twice that of New York State.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
North Coast Lawyer
(159 posts)Guns are ubiquitous coast to coast because red states have flooded the market. In other countries like Canada guns (and particularly handguns) are far harder to get ahold of. In America black market weapons are a dime a dozen. In Canada black market weapons are prohibitively expensive pricing out most petty criminals who aren't noted for their ability to save up for major purchases.
Scrivener7
(56,965 posts)(Well, you and I did, but apparently others didn't.)
Blues Heron
(7,378 posts)betsuni
(28,265 posts)manhunt for shooter or prison escapees; today's airplane falling out of the sky or nearly colliding (sometimes deadly) and/or more info about previous airplanes falling out of the sky or nearly colliding; wildfires, floods, tornadoes, storms, hurricanes, deadly heat; The Trump Show; heartwarming story featuring a small child or animal.
ABC really really loves the word "deadly."
Timeflyer
(3,373 posts)but somehow guns are not the problem?!?
Gimpyknee
(549 posts)3catwoman3
(27,571 posts)malaise
(288,441 posts)Donvict will also lie
Initech
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BigmanPigman
(53,570 posts)And not only hits "IT" but also destroys "IT". Not "him" but "IT" since he is not a human being. He is the devil incarnate.
You know what I mean. I look forward to finally waking up to a brand new day on DU where any poster asks, "Is he dead yet" and the answer is "deader than a door nail".
I want to wake up and read he is was blown into smithereens by anybody. Putin, a crazy MAGGOT, Melania, .....I don't care who does it or why, I just want him to be permanently destroyed.
Of course, energy can't be destroyed, Einstein, and can only change forms but I am very OK with that outcome.