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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere is how gerrymandering works in two images.

Jim Jordan district in Ohio

End of lesson.

bif
(26,187 posts)SidneyR
(182 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,831 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,831 posts)Health care is another festering case.
Wednesdays
(20,664 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,831 posts)ToxMarz
(2,545 posts)Others would call it corrupt.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,831 posts)3catwoman3
(27,571 posts)lastlib
(26,591 posts)The party in power creates the district--politicians choose their voters, instead of the other way around.
unblock
(55,577 posts)CrispyQ
(40,164 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Edited to add wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio%27s_congressional_districts
KS Toronado
(21,138 posts)Response to KS Toronado (Reply #5)
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Bluetus
(1,444 posts)Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)
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SunSeeker
(56,526 posts)aggiesal
(10,279 posts)wiggs
(8,364 posts)is true, why don't pundits, MSM, journalists, etc point this out every day? Another situation where dems and outlets fail to make an easy case?
WestMichRad
(2,552 posts)
but Dems have done similar. As catwoman pointed out earlier in this thread, Dems have gerrymandered the districts in Illinois to their favor:
slightlv
(6,493 posts)but at this point in time, I say "Go for it Democrats!" whenever they can get the opportunity. Most of it will just be us stealing back districts which have ripped away from us and the minorities that live there. It's just a way to minimize minority voices. Voting is under attack right now in so many ways, I have to wonder if we ARE going to have a 26 election... and if so, if the 28 election will be held or if the R's will simply install someone like DJT, Jr. in order to create their own dynasty. Bush was suppose to be that for the R's, but that fizzled because people get tired of being ripped off and demeaned. And the R's have always been jealous of the Kennedy name and dynasty. Too bad RFK jr broke the idiot mold!!
wiggs
(8,364 posts)remember Tom DeLay saying they were on the verge of a 100-year GOP rule...back then it was a fundraising system. Now there's media capture, extreme gerrymandering, lying, gutting of voting rights act, polarization and hate, citizen's united, foreign interference...and who knows what Elon was up to.
slightlv
(6,493 posts)but I probably won't be around to see how this whole thing turns out. If nothing else, djt and his regime will set out to kill off as many of us as he can; we're just non-productive takers to him and his. But I worry about grandson. I hope when I kick off, he's still young enough to get out of the country and make a new life for himself someplace politically and civilly decent. In fact, I wish the village idiots would wake up one day to realize that they've lost at least one entire generation to other countries because of their sadistic rules and behavior. At least no one I know of child bearing years are planning on having any kids while all this crap is going on. One said it's hard enough to think about getting out of the country on your own, without having a child or two in tow, as well.
Karasu
(1,917 posts)Random Boomer
(4,355 posts)I remember a Rachel Maddow show from years ago. Dems were the first to gerrymander a state or two, but the Republicans turned around and weaponized it across the country in a more organized a d aggressive way.
Emile
(37,126 posts)Republicans have always said we need term limits. My reply to that has always been, no they need to end gerrymandering.
Marcuse
(8,656 posts)
Though the redistricting was done at the behest of his Democratic-Republican Party, it was Gerry who signed the bill in 1812. As a result, he received the dubious honor of attribution, along with its negative connotations.
Gerry, in fact, found the proposal highly disagreeable. He lost the next election, but the redistricting was a success: His party retained control of the legislature.https://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2024/07/gerrymandering-the-origin-story/
Uncle Joe
(63,013 posts)Thanks for the thread Swede
Dave Bowman
(5,734 posts)mwooldri
(10,697 posts)Stretched from Greensboro to Charlotte, otherwise known as NC 12th District. It pretty much followed the path of the Interstate, as wide as the highway at its narrow points. The initial boundaries were drawn by Democrats. After a number of court cases, the 12th got redrawn.... Still a heavily Democratic district basically because Charlotte has tilted towards the Democrats in recent years and it served the Republicans in charge to sort of pay lip service to the law - compact area and one that's minority majority.... Still Cook Partisan Index puts it as D+24... In other words a snowballs chance for a Republican to win there as is.
What the district used to look like, picture from Wikipedia:
Hornedfrog2000
(842 posts)Not a democracy
slightlv
(6,493 posts)I don't think it's right. If you have to turn right for two blocks before turning left 3 blocks then right again by 4 blocks in order to get one color over the other, you've got problems that ain't gonna be solved by math. You're just cheating, period.
One thing I've learned since trump became prez, on the first time around. I never knew there were so many different ways for an election to be stolen... or attempted to be stolen. I remembered some of the history stuff I heard in school about the 30's and 40's and the backroom deals and Irish influence (which I saw even then as pretty slanted). But I've just never seen so much "in your face" criminal action during an election before. And the pre-election rigging I never dreamed of! From gerrymandering to an idiotic extent to deciding who in what quadrant can vote and kicking people off the roles for no good reason. It just floors me. Makes me wonder how we could EVER be sure we had a "free and fair election."
...it's time for southern Dems and Progressives to move to Dem and Progressive northern states...
...they can't carve us up if there's nothing to carve...
...
OldBaldy1701E
(8,885 posts)To leave is to signal defeat. Why do that?
I am not partial to allowing those animals to claim any part of the US.
Even the parts some of you don't like.
Johonny
(24,449 posts)Cutting margins very low, in what is likely a low turn out election for the GOP.
Thunder Chicken
(2 posts)Sorry new poster here. Typically just come here for the articles posted, but wouldnt both the second and third image both be considered gerrymandered? If there are a total of five districts with 60% blue voters and 40% red voters, then shouldnt the equitable split be three blue districts and two red districts? I dont support any form of gerrymandering, so 5-0 split favoring blue voters in this scenario is just as illegal as 3-2 split favoring red voters correct?
marble falls
(67,809 posts)Swede
(37,198 posts)The second image is just straight up lines drawn without anyone knowing how the voters will vote. The third one is knowing exactly how they will vote and drawing the lines to get the results that you want. Maybe districts should all be just grids?