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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe AI Doomers Are Getting Doomier: The industry's apocalyptic voices are becoming more panicked--and harder to dismiss.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/08/ai-doomers-chatbots-resurgence/683952/
https://archive.ph/bhLPn

Nate Soares doesnt set aside money for his 401(k). I just dont expect the world to be around, he told me earlier this summer from his office at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, where he is the president. A few weeks earlier, Id heard a similar rationale from Dan Hendrycks, the director of the Center for AI Safety. By the time he could tap into any retirement funds, Hendrycks anticipates a world in which everything is fully automated, he told me. That is, if were around. The past few years have been terrifying for Soares and Hendrycks, who both lead organizations dedicated to preventing AI from wiping out humanity. Along with other AI doomers, they have repeatedly warned, with rather dramatic flourish, that bots could one day go roguewith apocalyptic consequences.
But in 2025, the doomers are tilting closer and closer to a sort of fatalism. Weve run out of time to implement sufficient technological safeguards, Soares saidthe industry is simply moving too fast. All thats left to do is raise the alarm. In April, several apocalypse-minded researchers published AI 2027, a lengthy and detailed hypothetical scenario for how AI models could become all-powerful by 2027 and, from there, extinguish humanity. Were two years away from something we could lose control over, Max Tegmark, an MIT professor and the president of the Future of Life Institute, told me, and AI companies still have no plan to stop it from happening. His institute recently gave every frontier AI lab a D or F grade for their preparations for preventing the most existential threats posed by AI.
Apocalyptic predictions about AI can scan as outlandish. The AI 2027 write-up, dozens of pages long, is at once fastidious and fan-fictional, containing detailed analyses of industry trends alongside extreme extrapolations about OpenBrain and DeepCent, Chinese espionage, and treacherous bots. In mid-2030, the authors imagine, a superintelligent AI will kill humans with biological weapons: Most are dead within hours; the few survivors (e.g. preppers in bunkers, sailors on submarines) are mopped up by drones. But at the same time, the underlying concerns that animate AI doomers have become harder to dismiss as chatbots seem to drive people into psychotic episodes and instruct users in self-mutilation. Even if generative-AI products are not closer to ending the world, they have already, in a sense, gone rogue.
In 2022, the doomers went mainstream practically overnight. When ChatGPT first launched, it almost immediately moved the panic that computer programs might take over the world from the movies into sober public discussions. The following spring, the Center for AI Safety published a statement calling for the world to take the risk of extinction from AI as seriously as the dangers posed by pandemics and nuclear warfare. The hundreds of signatories included Bill Gates and Grimes, along with perhaps the AI industrys three most influential people: Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, and Demis Hassabisthe heads of OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind, respectively. Asking people for their P(doom)the probability of an AI doomsdaybecame almost common inside, and even outside, Silicon Valley; Lina Khan, the former head of the Federal Trade Commission, put hers at 15 percent.
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ret5hd
(21,738 posts)power and water.
just sayin.
airplaneman
(1,336 posts)The power and water issues is whats going to kill us and not the AI. Its unsustainable. Look at whats happening in Ireland with data centers.
ret5hd
(21,738 posts)ways to attack AI if it decided to take over.
no power, no AI
no water, no AI
both seem pretty simple to control access to if necessary.
enough
(13,599 posts)and everyone suddenly figuring out its not that good.
Scrivener7
(56,831 posts)LudwigPastorius
(13,243 posts)Link to my AI 2027 post.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220580792
canetoad
(19,338 posts)The giant tech companies that all seems to own an AI model each, start using ai to foul up the operation of their competitor AIs.
I guess I should ask AI the answer to this.
LudwigPastorius
(13,243 posts)Companies will use them 'in house' with increasingly strict security protocols to prevent theft & sabotage.
That's not to say that there won't be espionage going on, particularly between rival countries.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,666 posts)The film is about an advanced American defense system, named Colossus, becoming sentient. After being handed full control, Colossus' draconian logic expands on its original nuclear defense directives to assume total control of the world and end all warfare for the good of humankind, despite its creators' orders to stop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project

Almost as bad as "This is the voice of your favorite evil president. This is the voice of your favorite evil dictator. We are one."
gulliver
(13,469 posts)I'm an AI optimist. Natural (human) intelligence hallucinates, goes psycho, spawns cults, vectors toxic fads of stupidity and sado-masochism, etc. Wisdom is the saving grace of the world if it can only outpace stupidity, paranoia, and criminality.
AI can help with that. It already is. There's never been a safe time for the human species. If it's not Skynet, then it's nukes, plagues, ice ages, etc.
What humans need to do is make sure the AIs level up the lives of people.
ret5hd
(21,738 posts)that own and control ai (because acres of cpus with vast power/water needs CANNOT be feasibly built by individuals)
to suddenly change the corporate mindset and design/operate ai in such a way as to benefit the average person?
youre more of an optimist than i am.
Mossfern
(4,271 posts)Isaac Asimov -the guy was an absolute visionary .