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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220144999Ralph Nader says .... anything. Good morning, Can I get chocolate sprinkles on my ice cream?
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 FLAME WAR🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
For the record, I hate Ralph Nader, but I'll read what he says, because
It might have value in the moment, and
Fucking ChatGPT might have written it.
Fight each other and end up in concentration camps.
Fight together and we stand a chance.
My previous post:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10114421
An open letter to Democratic leaders. This is our Normandy. Marshall all our forces or lose to fascist rule.
You must choose wisely.
KEEP FIGHTING EACH OTHER HERE.
TRUMP WILL NEVER DIE.

BUT YOU WILL
YOU'LL ALL LOSE AND BE SENT TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS
WHERE YOU CAN ARGUE FOR

Nothing personal, of course.

no_hypocrisy
(52,913 posts)(SPD), which was the strongest and most predominant political force in the Weimar Republic until 1932. How it lost its message and control of the government by a minority party.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,540 posts)the German Communist party but they refused because the Social Democrats were too moderate. Sound familiar?
W_HAMILTON
(9,497 posts)People should read up on him and his story.
History doesn't repeat, but it certainly does rhyme...
Jack Valentino
(3,163 posts)GQP New American Nazi Party???
Yeah, that rings a bell, that is NOW---
LeftInTX
(33,560 posts)Trump, "I killed all the Democrats on Fifth Ave and got away with it"
Democrats who like to criticize Democrats: "It was the Democrats fault"
SocialDemocrat61
(5,540 posts)Or in this case the Social Democrats. It was the German Communists who were so short sighted that they refused to see the threat the Nazis were because the Social Democrats werent pure enough, just as now some on the far left play purity games with democrats.
LeftInTX
(33,560 posts)What works in one district, may not work in another. We have that even on city council. Although non-partisan, we know who the Democrats are. We have three who are endorsed by DSA and five who are traditional Democrats, two endorsed by the GOP.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,540 posts)That was the problem with German Communists. They were playing purity politics just as too many due today. Democrats lost 3 presidential elections because some people played purity politics and stayed home or made a protest vote to feel morally superior to everyone else.
And youre right what works in one district or city or state or region may not work in others. Many have a zero tolerance attitude especially if it comes to their pet issues. Thats just short sighted. The only way for democracy to work is to accept compromise. But many just want what they want and would prefer authoritarianism who agrees with them.
JustAnotherGen
(36,873 posts)
Blue Full Moon
(2,744 posts)But I think that it will fall apart. Vance has no it factor. They will all claw each other. I've seen this before, but corporate style with a Trump mini-me department head.
JustAnotherGen
(36,873 posts)Yep. And they will trigger intolerable acts against the American people to try and out do each other.
But - these weak feckless spoiled and entitled brats can be broken.
rickyhall
(5,483 posts)MorrisTheHalf a Cat
(10 posts)The old socialism thing isn't gonna cut it. You'll have to push hard to men's objectives for the left to be stronger. But can that work?
ProfessorGAC
(74,221 posts)What does that even mean?
Dems have been running pushing socialism? I must have missed that election or something.
oasis
(52,827 posts)occasional zap until his last day on Earth.
ClimateChangeisReal
(91 posts)If Nader actually had a conscience he would not have run in 2000 and on a big lie. His goal was to help W and he did.
ClimateChangeisReal
(91 posts)Nader helped create this nightmare and everyone knows it. Nader destroyed his credibility in 2000. For the record, Nader is NOT a progressive. Nader is a multi-millionaire who invests in the big corporations that he claims publicly that he hates and he took $5 million from the repugs for tv ads to spread his big lie that were run in crucial places like Florida. Nader is NOT one of us. Our country's Pearl Harbor/Normandy was on 12/12/00 when the anti-democracy Rehnquist 5 stopped the legal Florida vote count. Since then, our party leadership has unilaterally disarmed and our country is paying the price for it.
usonian
(20,068 posts)Who is the only president to kill and permanently disfigure civilians with nuclear weapons?
Who disgustingly interred innocent Americans based on national origin?
Should I trash the party because of them?
Living in the past is the existential problem we are facing. People trying to return slavery and our founders' love of ethnic purity.
And GRUDGES KILL DEMOCRATS.
The thugs won't offer you a cigarette before offing you.
I watch the "team spirit" as NFL prima donnas hold out. They, and too many dems would "rather be right than successful"
ClimateChangeisReal
(91 posts)You're really desperate to drag FDR into this. Our country suffers so terribly today because of Nader and the party leadership's unilateral disarmament in 2000 and since. These are ugly truths that no one should ever forget.