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It appears that even Republican voters are having enough as well with their Representatives.Link to tweet
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tanyev
(47,681 posts)
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)Made mention of the few MAGAts holding Town Halls and their constituents are "pissed" at the policies they are supporting.
Diamond_Dog
(38,336 posts)travelingthrulife
(3,135 posts)I didn't quite get his point as to why he is losing his farm.
Ms. Toad
(37,633 posts)I stopped listening at that point. As satisfying as it was to hear a Republican lawmaker handed his ass, that nonsense about his farm told me he was not all there.
TexLaProgressive
(12,598 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,633 posts)What on earth could he have possibly been trying to articulate?
He said, in essence, he was losing his farm because Iowa doesn't have wills - they only have trusts.
Iowa has both.
But even if it was true, only having trusts would not result in him losing his farm. It is a common estate planning tool - even among farmers. I'm the daughter of Nebraska farmers. All of my parents' farmland is in trusts. When one of them dies, all the corpus pours over to the trust of which the other is the beneficiary. When the last of them die, the kids become beneficiaries.
I can't envision any scenario when the existence (or not) of wills (or trusts, for that matter) would result in losing the farm.
TexLaProgressive
(12,598 posts)That looking back realizing that you have lost the plot. Lucky you.
Ms. Toad
(37,633 posts)To lose the plot, there has to be some plot in the first place. Again, there is no plot I can even imagine that involves wills and/or trusts causing the loss of the farm.
TexLaProgressive
(12,598 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)BoRaGard
(7,295 posts)now going viral
(so unsanitary)
AllaN01Bear
(27,285 posts)PatSeg
(50,885 posts)They've been around awhile and know bullshit when they see it. They also have a better sense of history than most younger people.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)My younger granddaughters are going to get the TRUTHFUL history of this country from me. I intend to avoid the lies.
At 73,a Professional Costumer for over 40 years, I remain a student of History to this day because of what I do. Not only about who wore what during an age or era, but the politics, society in general, music and art trends, etc. I delve into Military History being that some of my clientele are re-enactors of specific historical periods, the age of sail, etc.
ChazInAz
(2,953 posts)Theatrical set & costume designer, actor, with minors in history and English Lit!
Illinois Wesleyan University, class of 1972.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)
I have been to many a Historical site in this country from many along the East Coast, the Great Lakes region, Midwest, the West(grew up in California), as well as some places in the South. Heading down to Georgia again to visit friends there who used to live in Galena, Illinois. Going to spend some time in Savannah this time.
PatSeg
(50,885 posts)and I'm amazed at how ignorant so many people are about the past. I find it all so fascinating and there is always so much to learn.
You're granddaughters are very lucky to have you!
slightlv
(6,516 posts)but it wasn't until later in life (after college) that my interest really took off. I think I know the reason (at least for me)... schools made the subject so freaking dry. It was all memorizing names and dates. We didn't really delve into politics, government, society in general, customs, etc. IOW, everything that makes history "history" was left out. When you just rely on learning dates and names, it's a pretty awful subject.
lostnfound
(17,170 posts)His barely covered snark combined with genuine feeling toward students made me love that class. It was finally more than dates and facts, it became part of riveting reality. He had a curious and free mind, in a way that most other teachers at my high school did not.
There was a lot that he wouldnt have been allowed to teach or say. So I graduated from high school still wondering why the US was supporting a bunch of awful dictators Pinochet, Marcos and training death squad leaders in torture techniques at the School of the Americas while pretending to be all about democracy. Took me 22 more years to find Chomsky, Zinn..suddenly the lightbulb moment. When a population in a poor country is 98% landless, while the 2% that inherited all of the land wants to prevent progressive taxation or funding for public schools or nationalization of resources, an obvious irreconcilable conflict may arise between capitalism and democracy. The 2% can always phone-a-friend, Uncle Sam, to stop the excess of democracy.
But he told us about his experience as a dog handler in Vietnam, which Ill never forget. They are at the front of the line, and the average survival rate of soldiers in that position was only around 6 weeks, but he was there for
a few years? One time he gestured at the reality of the two places on a human body that the dogs were trained to attack, one of which was the neck.
He was wiry, strong, not tall, reportedly had lots of plants in his van and students who got a demerit for being a little late for the bell could give him a plant to remove the demerit. That sounds like bribery, but in the late 1970s, there was much more room for individuality than there is now.
I tried looking him up several times over the decades, to tell him thank you and that Ive never forgotten him.
PatSeg
(50,885 posts)Such teachers make a huge difference.
Most of the history I learned was on my own. I started out being fascinated by archeology and ancient history. Then I gradually started moving forward through different time periods. It wasn't until more recent years that I became interested in American history. It was such a dry and dull subject in school - now I know it also was very sanitized and often inaccurate.
I was lucky in high school as I had a fascinating world history teacher who really inspired me.
mucholderthandirt
(1,659 posts)Seriously, now. These old farts, the farmers, the small business owners, they all vote Republican so the Rs will take away everyone else's stuff, and they get mad when their stuff gets taken as well.
They never learn.
I am an "old fart" at 67, but I've voted for the most liberal people I could since I first started voting. I know who's on my side and it doesn't diminish my needs to have the needs of others considered.
slightlv
(6,516 posts)and you know what it is, don't ya? We've got that dreaded disease "empathy"...! (gryn)
PatSeg
(50,885 posts)Many are programmed from a young age and are resistant to change.
Like you I've always been liberal and I'm even older than "much older than dirt"! I did vote for one republican back in the late sixties but that was just a vote against Mayor Richard Daley who we viewed as a total tyrant. Unfortunately, he won anyway.
Gimpyknee
(560 posts)Well done sir.
patphil
(8,208 posts)That voter is right about Republican lawmakers having their heads up Trump's ass, but there are a lot of Republican voters in Missouri, and elsewhere, who have a similar problem...collective heads up their asses.
It makes it easier for them to not see and not hear what's really happening around them.
It also makes it easier for them to not be "woke"; that is, be awake.
What the country needs is a huge dose of wakefulness on the part of the Republican voters.
That's going to require them pull their heads out of their asses....not much chance of that happening, at least not in time to save our Democratic Republic.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)We need more of these people to stand up and speak out, and VOTE their values, principles, and morals, and NOT just because they have an R after their names. If more people did that, we all would be doing a hell of a lot better right now.
patphil
(8,208 posts)Note how the current administration is attacking education, and rewriting history.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,162 posts)I minored in American History in College, yet took World History as well.
History has always fascinated me from the time I was in Jr. High School. In 8th Grade, we had to memorize he Gettysburg Address. Having actually toured that hallowed ground in 2011, I was at the Cemetery across the way from the Visitor Center and stood at the memorial there, marking the spot where Abraham Lincoln gave his 2 minute 18 second speech. I can only imagine the stench of death that covered the 3 days in July of that battle, resulting in the defeat of Pickett's March on the 3rd day.
To this day, I remain a student of History, the good parts as well as the bad.
patphil
(8,208 posts)We had a history presentation by my grade, either 6th or 7th grade, and I gave Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, also from memory.
That was back in the late 1950's.
Bengus81
(9,274 posts)Yet this hayseed sounds surprised...............
electric_blue68
(23,650 posts)Initech
(106,173 posts)They only exist to kiss Trump's ass and do the every evil bidding of Rupert Murdoch.
Bengus81
(9,274 posts)I don't believe any of those fuckers and their rants.
Anyone who's been following Republican polling for the last 10 years knows this is how they think, regardless of whether or they regret their votes or not.
underpants
(192,608 posts)spanone
(140,012 posts)Emile
(37,198 posts)dalton99a
(89,935 posts)Blue Owl
(57,247 posts)
calimary
(87,642 posts)But then again, if your head is up trump's ass, you at least have an excuse (even a weak one) for being blind.
llmart
(16,767 posts)Looks like after the "Trump's ass" comment, some goon tried to take the mic away from him quickly.
I fear this just fell on deaf ears. It's the truth and the GOP can't handle the truth.
Rebl2
(16,901 posts)see this! This is next door to the county where I live. That area is also quite republican.
FakeNoose
(38,493 posts)They can't ever be videotaped agreeing with any of these voters, because it will get back to Chump in no-time.
Democrats are much better at handling the public, and also explaining official policy to unhappy voters.
Aussie105
(7,158 posts)The leadership such as it is, makes people do things against their own best interests.
The good thing though, once a cult leader is demonstrably incapable of 'leading', the whole cult just crumbles, evaporates, dissipates.
People who were in the cult will then deny they were part of it.
Trump is getting close to that point.
KS Toronado
(21,159 posts)My new bumper sticker idea. I'm sure people have noticed he talks like he knows everything about
everything.