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White, 20s, an unhealthy fascination with firearms, incel and MAGA full-throated or adjacent.

spooky3
(37,914 posts)Aviation Pro
(14,795 posts)But true.
EdmondDantes_
(939 posts)The first person to use the word, to describe themselves, was a woman. Sas that it turned into being for a bunch of hateful guys.
Jose Garcia
(3,301 posts)MineralMan
(149,793 posts)We'll find out soon enough who the shooter was. Guessing is just game-playing. Kids are dead.
nitro_dem
(2 posts)Ugh.
obamanut2012
(28,839 posts)Welcome to DU

nitro_dem
(2 posts)Thanks
Aviation Pro
(14,795 posts)Trust no news source.
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)Aviation Pro
(14,795 posts)MAGA handles.
MineralMan
(149,793 posts)sboatcar
(654 posts)choie
(6,119 posts)from Russian to English?
"KARE 11 was able to translate parts of the alleged manifesto from Russian to English, in which it appeared the author referenced suicide, school shootings and shooters, and the Annunciation Church."
Renew Deal
(84,496 posts)They did not use russian words. It's just the alphabet.
obamanut2012
(28,839 posts)And the shooter changed their name from Robbin to Robert and had long hair.
That's it.
Westman may be MtF, may not be. But the videos showing up show they had a HUGE love for mass shooters, hated "pedos," and were anti-semitic. And totally mentally ill.
Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account and say Westman was trans.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,693 posts)The first time poster registered in 2008.
obamanut2012
(28,839 posts)I don't care when they registered. That actually makes it much worse.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,693 posts)reACTIONary
(6,718 posts)... I think the intent is to express dismay at what MAGA will do with this. Let's give 'em a chance and see. This might just be a less than artful expression.
TommyT139
(1,929 posts)I would have phrased it differently, but I guarantee you, most trans people hearing this today are having the same reaction -- while lamenting the loss of young lives --
"Ugh."
This case will be added to the few others (in a sea of non trans murders) to bolster calls for ending medical care for all trans people, and at the very least, restrictions on access to guns.
sarisataka
(22,001 posts)If we are to trust no news source, how will we know if your assumptions are correct?
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,693 posts)sarisataka
(22,001 posts)that disagrees with preconceptions"
Torchlight
(5,708 posts)Good luck
reACTIONary
(6,718 posts).... I think the intent is to express dismay at what the MAGA reaction might be. As a new poster, I would hold off on the criticism until there is less ambiguous evidence of evil intent.
Response to nitro_dem (Reply #4)
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This could be interpreted a few different ways--would like your clarification.
sarisataka
(22,001 posts)About two of those assumptions are correct.
Facts about the shooter may make people rather uncomfortably if they turned out to be true.
Torchlight
(5,708 posts)Easy access to firearms. No manifesto, just rage because others have what he doesn't
My guess.
thatdemguy
(615 posts)There is a manifesto with pro LGBTQ sticker, looks to be trans based on paperwork requesting to change name due to identifying as a female.
Written on the gun trump must die, where is your god now etc.
Torchlight
(5,708 posts)thatdemguy
(615 posts)Torchlight
(5,708 posts)tritsofme
(19,546 posts)senseandsensibility
(23,928 posts)nbcnews.com has that in a current headline. There is also another headline leading to a story saying that the shooter has been identified as Robin Westman. Again, this story uses the their pronoun.
Prairie Gates
(6,314 posts)It's like clockwork, really.
Knaughty
(4 posts)nt
LiberalArkie
(18,961 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,721 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,878 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,878 posts)thread is sick.
There are dead kids, most likely dead as a result of hatred.
Oh wait, I have an idea! Let's spread more hate, that should stop it, right?
jonstl08
(501 posts)Maybe he was abused by the church and upset with how they handled it.
Greg_In_SF
(598 posts)maxrandb
(16,859 posts)Don't care if the shooter is white, African American, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Jewish, Arab, anti-semitic, Islamaphobe, male, female, trans, straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, celibate, young, middle aged, old, married, single, divorced, rich, poor, middle-class, unemployed, employed, conservative, liberal, progressive, moderate, agnostic, atheist, Christian, introvert, or extrovert.
I just know a few things.
There is only one American political party and political ideology that has done all in their power to ensure America's Mass Shooters are the MOST EASILY AND HEAVILY ARMED mass shooters on the fucking planet.
There is only one American political party and political ideology that whipped thousands of violent supporters into a frenzy to attack the United FUCKING State Capitol and viciously beat police officers...and then didn't even fucking whimper when their titular leader pardoned that violent mob
One fucking party helps ensure violent fucksticks can easily get all the fucking guns they want, whips them into a frenzy, and let's them know that violence will be pardoned as long as they are on the Reich side of politics.
So, go ahead. Have fun trying to put this shooter into some kind of neat little box.
It's a good distraction for who is truly responsible for this carnage.
Maybe we can keep score! Incels 10 - LGBTQ 3.
It's a "fun" game, but it ignores the real problem.
Greg_In_SF
(598 posts)purchased legally.
Torchlight
(5,708 posts)Greg_In_SF
(598 posts)44,000 guns sold in the US every day. Crazy people are the problem, and this person was a nut job. Look up the video he posted on Youtube this morning. Disturbing.
Patton French
(1,785 posts)NT
Aviation Pro
(14,795 posts)I own up to it because that's what you're supposed to do.
TheProle
(3,723 posts)Edit your post to say you jumped the gun and were wrong if you want to own up to it.
Otherwise, for people who don't read past the OP, it's as wrong as it ever was.
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TheProle
(3,723 posts)I'm sure some in your circle find your prickly-ness adorbs.
Kaleva
(39,948 posts)hardluck
(747 posts)Where?
Aviation Pro
(14,795 posts)I dont need to explain myself.
NickB79
(20,110 posts)onenote
(45,678 posts)Response to Aviation Pro (Original post)
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Ace Rothstein
(3,360 posts)They're a bad look for this site.