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Aviation Pro

(14,795 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:29 PM Aug 27

Place your bets on the Minneapolis shooter

White, 20s, an unhealthy fascination with firearms, incel and MAGA full-throated or adjacent.

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Place your bets on the Minneapolis shooter (Original Post) Aviation Pro Aug 27 OP
And male nt spooky3 Aug 27 #1
Incel kind of implies that Aviation Pro Aug 27 #3
Ironically yes EdmondDantes_ Aug 27 #45
Apparently not Jose Garcia Aug 27 #48
No, thanks! It's not a game. MineralMan Aug 27 #2
Unfortunately a trans person... nitro_dem Aug 27 #4
First post, eh? obamanut2012 Aug 27 #6
TY Permanut Aug 27 #52
Sucks to be correct, but... nitro_dem Aug 28 #57
Where is that being reported? Aviation Pro Aug 27 #7
Times of India LeftInTX Aug 27 #13
Yeah, not buying that shit Aviation Pro Aug 27 #18
Quit While You're Behind.... MineralMan Aug 27 #19
From local media sboatcar Aug 27 #26
They media had to translate the manifestp choie Aug 27 #34
They used russian letters to substitute english letters Renew Deal Aug 27 #44
There was a trans sticker on a gun magazine obamanut2012 Aug 27 #16
Get your facts straight before making accusations Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #17
It was their FIRST post obamanut2012 Aug 27 #22
Yes you did care, bc you made a big point about it, adding bite with "rush" Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #25
I don't think the poster is dissing trans people..... reACTIONary Aug 27 #30
Yep, that was my reading too. TommyT139 Aug 27 #35
"Trust no news source." sarisataka Aug 27 #20
It would have made more sense if they had written "Trust no single news source". . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #29
I believe it was more like "Trust no news source... sarisataka Aug 27 #37
Sounds serious Torchlight Aug 27 #9
I don't think the poster is dissing trans people..... reACTIONary Aug 27 #28
Post removed Post removed Aug 28 #55
Meaning? Lulu KC Aug 28 #62
If the early rumors are accurate sarisataka Aug 27 #5
White, straight male. Late 20s early 30's Feels slighted by an ex-gf or ex-job Torchlight Aug 27 #8
Well the things I have seen your right on the firearms but wrong on others thatdemguy Aug 27 #11
A guess wrong about half the time when I call heads or tails. Torchlight Aug 27 #12
Exactly when people guess before the actual info comes out they are wrong half the time thatdemguy Aug 27 #14
And the taste of mustard didn't change. Torchlight Aug 27 #15
Pretty sick shit right here. tritsofme Aug 27 #10
The press keeps using the "their" pronoun senseandsensibility Aug 27 #21
How many times do people have to be embarrassed before they stop posting these threads? Prairie Gates Aug 27 #23
Is this a regular thing here? Knaughty Aug 27 #46
Yes. nt Celerity Aug 28 #56
Red head. Definately not an Anglo Saxon. Family history of being an immigrant from Ireland so there fore a IRA Terrorist LiberalArkie Aug 27 #24
grow up WhiskeyGrinder Aug 27 #27
No shit. ForgedCrank Aug 27 #32
This entire ForgedCrank Aug 27 #31
Upset at the church jonstl08 Aug 27 #33
Here is the now removed Youtube video Greg_In_SF Aug 27 #36
I don't give a flying "eff". maxrandb Aug 27 #38
All three guns Greg_In_SF Aug 27 #39
Sounds very much like a root of the problem. Torchlight Aug 27 #41
There are Greg_In_SF Aug 27 #42
Not self-deleted yet? Patton French Aug 27 #40
No, when I make a mistake Aviation Pro Aug 27 #47
Simply leaving it up isn't "owning up" to anything TheProle Aug 27 #49
No Aviation Pro Aug 27 #50
It wasn't a command and there was no expectation you would TheProle Aug 27 #51
Not everybody would do that. Recd Kaleva Aug 28 #59
You owned up to it? hardluck Aug 28 #60
By leaving it up Aviation Pro Aug 28 #61
This post aged poorly NickB79 Aug 27 #43
Can I still place a bet? How much are you, the OP, willing to put up? onenote Aug 27 #53
Post removed Post removed Aug 27 #54
These types of posts shouldn't be allowed here. Ace Rothstein Aug 28 #58
My bet is future discussions on this shooting will be, shall we say, quite limited. BannonsLiver Aug 28 #63

EdmondDantes_

(939 posts)
45. Ironically yes
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:57 PM
Aug 27

The first person to use the word, to describe themselves, was a woman. Sas that it turned into being for a bunch of hateful guys.

MineralMan

(149,793 posts)
2. No, thanks! It's not a game.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:32 PM
Aug 27

We'll find out soon enough who the shooter was. Guessing is just game-playing. Kids are dead.

choie

(6,119 posts)
34. They media had to translate the manifestp
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:13 PM
Aug 27

from Russian to English?

"KARE 11 was able to translate parts of the alleged manifesto from Russian to English, in which it appeared the author referenced suicide, school shootings and shooters, and the Annunciation Church."

Renew Deal

(84,496 posts)
44. They used russian letters to substitute english letters
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:53 PM
Aug 27

They did not use russian words. It's just the alphabet.

obamanut2012

(28,839 posts)
16. There was a trans sticker on a gun magazine
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:46 PM
Aug 27

And the shooter changed their name from Robbin to Robert and had long hair.

That's it.

Westman may be MtF, may not be. But the videos showing up show they had a HUGE love for mass shooters, hated "pedos," and were anti-semitic. And totally mentally ill.

Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account and say Westman was trans.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,693 posts)
17. Get your facts straight before making accusations
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:53 PM
Aug 27

The first time poster registered in 2008.

Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,693 posts)
25. Yes you did care, bc you made a big point about it, adding bite with "rush"
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:29 PM
Aug 27
Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account

reACTIONary

(6,718 posts)
30. I don't think the poster is dissing trans people.....
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:40 PM
Aug 27

... I think the intent is to express dismay at what MAGA will do with this. Let's give 'em a chance and see. This might just be a less than artful expression.

TommyT139

(1,929 posts)
35. Yep, that was my reading too.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:24 PM
Aug 27

I would have phrased it differently, but I guarantee you, most trans people hearing this today are having the same reaction -- while lamenting the loss of young lives --
"Ugh."

This case will be added to the few others (in a sea of non trans murders) to bolster calls for ending medical care for all trans people, and at the very least, restrictions on access to guns.

sarisataka

(22,001 posts)
20. "Trust no news source."
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:04 PM
Aug 27

If we are to trust no news source, how will we know if your assumptions are correct?

reACTIONary

(6,718 posts)
28. I don't think the poster is dissing trans people.....
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:37 PM
Aug 27

.... I think the intent is to express dismay at what the MAGA reaction might be. As a new poster, I would hold off on the criticism until there is less ambiguous evidence of evil intent.

Response to nitro_dem (Reply #4)

sarisataka

(22,001 posts)
5. If the early rumors are accurate
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:35 PM
Aug 27

About two of those assumptions are correct.
Facts about the shooter may make people rather uncomfortably if they turned out to be true.

Torchlight

(5,708 posts)
8. White, straight male. Late 20s early 30's Feels slighted by an ex-gf or ex-job
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:38 PM
Aug 27

Easy access to firearms. No manifesto, just rage because others have what he doesn't

My guess.

thatdemguy

(615 posts)
11. Well the things I have seen your right on the firearms but wrong on others
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:42 PM
Aug 27

There is a manifesto with pro LGBTQ sticker, looks to be trans based on paperwork requesting to change name due to identifying as a female.

Written on the gun trump must die, where is your god now etc.

senseandsensibility

(23,928 posts)
21. The press keeps using the "their" pronoun
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:06 PM
Aug 27

nbcnews.com has that in a current headline. There is also another headline leading to a story saying that the shooter has been identified as Robin Westman. Again, this story uses the their pronoun.

Prairie Gates

(6,314 posts)
23. How many times do people have to be embarrassed before they stop posting these threads?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:08 PM
Aug 27

It's like clockwork, really.

LiberalArkie

(18,961 posts)
24. Red head. Definately not an Anglo Saxon. Family history of being an immigrant from Ireland so there fore a IRA Terrorist
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:26 PM
Aug 27

ForgedCrank

(2,878 posts)
31. This entire
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:59 PM
Aug 27

thread is sick.
There are dead kids, most likely dead as a result of hatred.
Oh wait, I have an idea! Let's spread more hate, that should stop it, right?

maxrandb

(16,859 posts)
38. I don't give a flying "eff".
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:37 PM
Aug 27

Don't care if the shooter is white, African American, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Jewish, Arab, anti-semitic, Islamaphobe, male, female, trans, straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, celibate, young, middle aged, old, married, single, divorced, rich, poor, middle-class, unemployed, employed, conservative, liberal, progressive, moderate, agnostic, atheist, Christian, introvert, or extrovert.

I just know a few things.

There is only one American political party and political ideology that has done all in their power to ensure America's Mass Shooters are the MOST EASILY AND HEAVILY ARMED mass shooters on the fucking planet.

There is only one American political party and political ideology that whipped thousands of violent supporters into a frenzy to attack the United FUCKING State Capitol and viciously beat police officers...and then didn't even fucking whimper when their titular leader pardoned that violent mob

One fucking party helps ensure violent fucksticks can easily get all the fucking guns they want, whips them into a frenzy, and let's them know that violence will be pardoned as long as they are on the Reich side of politics.

So, go ahead. Have fun trying to put this shooter into some kind of neat little box.

It's a good distraction for who is truly responsible for this carnage.

Maybe we can keep score! Incels 10 - LGBTQ 3.

It's a "fun" game, but it ignores the real problem.

Greg_In_SF

(598 posts)
42. There are
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:50 PM
Aug 27

44,000 guns sold in the US every day. Crazy people are the problem, and this person was a nut job. Look up the video he posted on Youtube this morning. Disturbing.

TheProle

(3,723 posts)
49. Simply leaving it up isn't "owning up" to anything
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:56 PM
Aug 27

Edit your post to say you jumped the gun and were wrong if you want to own up to it.

Otherwise, for people who don't read past the OP, it's as wrong as it ever was.

TheProle

(3,723 posts)
51. It wasn't a command and there was no expectation you would
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 06:01 PM
Aug 27

I'm sure some in your circle find your prickly-ness adorbs.

Response to Aviation Pro (Original post)

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