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ancianita

(41,630 posts) Thu Aug 28, 2025, 01:39 PM Aug 28

A Self Coup -- Does the U.S. Military Not Know What That Is?

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Gavin Newsom can see it. Youth can see it. WE see it. Corporate media don't see it.

No one profiting from this 2.0 cares who all see it or don't see it.

A self-coup, also called an autocoup (from Spanish autogolpe) or coup from the top, is a form of coup d'état in which a political leader, having come to power through legal means, stays in power illegally through the actions of themselves or their supporters.[1]

The leader may dissolve or render powerless the national legislature and unlawfully assume extraordinary powers. Other measures may include annulling the constitution, suspending civil courts, and having the head of government assume dictatorial powers.[2][3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup

Since 2017 there have been seven self-coups, and seven attempted self-coups, counting the current one.

Even if (in Newsom v Trump) Judge Breyer and the Ninth District Court of Appeals rule that Trump violated the Posse Comitatus Act, one can only wonder if that's enough for the U.S. Military's oath to the Constitution to mean enough that they justify acting to end the nation's suffering over this self-coup.

three days ago:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70496361/173/newsom-v-trump/

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A Self Coup -- Does the U.S. Military Not Know What That Is? (Original Post) ancianita Aug 28 OP

The military is/will be a participant/co-conspirator, not an opponent. RockRaven Aug 28 #1

Will they? You're speculating. ancianita Aug 28 #2

I am not as certain about that. Redleg Aug 28 #3

knr UTUSN Aug 28 #4

Quite letting rightwing media off the hook. ananda Aug 28 #5

RockRaven

(17,822 posts)

1. The military is/will be a participant/co-conspirator, not an opponent.

Reply to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 01:55 PM

Aug 28

They almost always are, and the US is not special in that (or any other) regard.

The military will not be the heroes who swoop in to save us. Do not plan or hope for that at the cost of doing something which is actually useful.

ancianita

(41,630 posts)

2. Will they? You're speculating.

Reply to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:03 PM

Aug 28

If you're so sure, then what specifically WILL be the "something which is actually useful"?

Redleg

(6,584 posts)

3. I am not as certain about that.

Reply to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:05 PM

Aug 28

I wonder if those troops picking up trash in D.C. are going to be all-aboard the Trump train. There have been numerous retired military generals and other officers critical of Trump and I expect there are a lot more who take seriously their oaths to the Constitution. While I don't see them overthrowing Trump, I can imagine that some, perhaps many, would resist taking unlawful actions against U.S. citizens.

UTUSN

(75,504 posts)

4. knr

Reply to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 04:21 PM

Aug 28

ananda

(32,991 posts)

5. Quite letting rightwing media off the hook.

Reply to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 04:28 PM

Aug 28

They deliberately carry Trump's water at all times.

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