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BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:54 PM Sep 1

What was being thrown out of the window at the White House?

Jump to the 4:00 mark...

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I looked on DU to see if anyone posted this to provide me with some answers. I can't figure out why anyone would throw stuff out of an upper floor window where everyone can see you. Odd!
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What was being thrown out of the window at the White House? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Sep 1 OP
Someone posted earlier & 1 of responses was that SheltieLover Sep 1 #1
Yeah, I'd forgotten the windows. buzzycrumbhunger Sep 1 #4
It does! SheltieLover Sep 1 #5
I just saw that DU post but it was on Google. BigmanPigman Sep 1 #26
Yes, me too SheltieLover Sep 1 #28
Here is orig DU thread I referenced SheltieLover Sep 1 #29
Yes, that's it! BigmanPigman Sep 1 #42
Too small and not orange. Unfortunately. jls4561 Sep 1 #2
Maybe a massive diaper blowout? buzzycrumbhunger Sep 1 #3
I looked at it several times BigmanPigman Sep 1 #6
So we hear all about the new ballroom (for four minutes) before anything about the "objects out a window". Jeez, get.... FadedMullet Sep 1 #7
I just added the 4:00 mark in my post. BigmanPigman Sep 1 #9
And I'm sorry about my petty complaining. I usually try to do better than that. Even hesitated this time, but I guess.. FadedMullet Sep 1 #12
No, I feel the same way BigmanPigman Sep 1 #16
;-{) Goonch Sep 1 #8
Tell me, please. When you searched for a stock image of a soiled diaper, were there hundreds to choose from? FadedMullet Sep 1 #14
It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking. ancianita Sep 1 #10
Do you mean... OneGrassRoot Sep 1 #18
Yes. AI is being used by all kinds of orgs now. Given Occupy Democrats' past performance, I wouldn't ancianita Sep 1 #21
WH already said it is not fake. Kingofalldems Sep 2 #46
Okay, then. I stand corrected; if the WH says it, then so be it because ancianita Sep 2 #48
I'm curious how they got the footage? LeftInTX Sep 1 #20
AI can produce any video footage you prompt it for . ancianita Sep 1 #22
I know. But if it's real, how did they get the footage? LeftInTX Sep 1 #23
You buy the AI service. ancianita Sep 1 #24
It's real. WH (not Trump) said it was contractor doing regular maintenance work LeftInTX Sep 2 #44
Okay, then. You make fair points. And I can't find any digital proof that it isn't. So thanks for your post. ancianita Sep 2 #45
Do you have any evidence of this? Feel Good Inc Sep 1 #33
Do you have evidence that it's not? ancianita Sep 1 #34
I'm not the one making a definitive claim. You did. Feel Good Inc Sep 1 #35
You're the one claiming I made a definitive claim. . ancianita Sep 1 #36
You said this: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking" Wiz Imp Sep 1 #37
You did make the claim, tho. Feel Good Inc Sep 1 #38
And you didn't read my links posted directly to you. ancianita Sep 1 #39
You did not post those in the original message I replied to... Feel Good Inc Sep 1 #40
My theory is that a large bird (hawk or falcon) got into the White House Jrose Sep 1 #11
They smell a dead carcass. Aviation Pro Sep 1 #13
Beware of Occupy Democrats, BP. ancianita Sep 1 #15
Thanks! Good to know. BigmanPigman Sep 1 #17
at the 4:00 mark Skittles Sep 1 #19
Damn, hoping it was trump by his puppet master. republianmushroom Sep 1 #25
Billie Joe McAllister? Diamond_Dog Sep 1 #27
Body Parts? MrWowWow Sep 1 #30
Trump's dirty diapers maybe? WVGIRL Sep 1 #31
Empty ketchup bottles. nt doc03 Sep 1 #32
The Epstein files.... Jack Valentino Sep 1 #41
It's been confirmed to be real Wiz Imp Sep 2 #43
I saw that on Meidas about an hour ago..... BigmanPigman Sep 2 #49
Looks like the gatekeepers lost on this one bigtime. Kingofalldems Sep 2 #47

SheltieLover

(73,744 posts)
1. Someone posted earlier & 1 of responses was that
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:56 PM
Sep 1

Windows are sealed & bulletproof. So to toss something, the glass would have to be removed.

Also that contractors are not allowed at WH is slob is squatting there.

No idea if accurate, just sharing what I read.

BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
26. I just saw that DU post but it was on Google.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:38 PM
Sep 1

At about 7:15 AM. I had to go back and read those posts. I'm still hoping someone will legitimately investigate what the hell is going on.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,367 posts)
3. Maybe a massive diaper blowout?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sep 1

Something so foul, no one wanted the stench lingering through the hallways?

Or maybe some quick thinker trying to get evidence out the door without getting caught?

Everything about these people is just so fkg weird and shady. *shrug*

BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
6. I looked at it several times
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:06 PM
Sep 1

and it seems to me the first one was a person's leg on the windowsill. The diaper thing would be a possibility but sealed windows makes it unlikely. Someone with digital technology should zoom in on that.

FadedMullet

(515 posts)
7. So we hear all about the new ballroom (for four minutes) before anything about the "objects out a window". Jeez, get....
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:06 PM
Sep 1

......a grip people, you may love the sound of your voice, but......

BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
9. I just added the 4:00 mark in my post.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 1

Last edited Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:39 PM - Edit history (1)

I should have done that originally. Sorry.

FadedMullet

(515 posts)
12. And I'm sorry about my petty complaining. I usually try to do better than that. Even hesitated this time, but I guess..
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 1

.......that damned ballroom aggravated me too much again. Sorry, Bigman.

BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
16. No, I feel the same way
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:30 PM
Sep 1

and it is my fault since I DID have to sit through a few minutes about the ballroom and I skipped ahead to find the part about the trash being tossed out when I first watched it.

FadedMullet

(515 posts)
14. Tell me, please. When you searched for a stock image of a soiled diaper, were there hundreds to choose from?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:18 PM
Sep 1

If there were, I'm taking it as another sign of the impending demise of our civilization.

OneGrassRoot

(23,838 posts)
18. Do you mean...
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:33 PM
Sep 1

it’s a fake/AI video and someone is monitoring how many people believe anything based on how viral it goes? If so, that tracks.

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
21. Yes. AI is being used by all kinds of orgs now. Given Occupy Democrats' past performance, I wouldn't
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:53 PM
Sep 1

be surprised that they use AI. It's cheaper, and they can still get money for clicks.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603059

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
48. Okay, then. I stand corrected; if the WH says it, then so be it because
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:10 PM
Sep 2

I get the broken clock analogy. Thanks.

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
23. I know. But if it's real, how did they get the footage?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:05 PM
Sep 1

That's why I'm a bit skeptical that it's real.

If it's real, it would likely be construction workers tossing junk to pick up later. (Which they often do) But it's the WH, not my house...LOL SS would probably have a fit if they threw stuff.

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
24. You buy the AI service.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:12 PM
Sep 1

Take a look at this long article about how the author uses his AI constantly. Read especially the part where he's asking ChatGPT to give a history of the neighborhood he's walking in, and then when it gets boring he prompts it thus: "Avoid cliches and general statements like "The building contributes to the vibrancy of the neighborhood, and go with lurid facts." And immediately he get info about past murders, Sid Vicious' being charged with murder of his girlfriend in that neighborhood blah blah..."
I hope you'll get the drift about the extent of AI uses by all kinds of sectors and demographics.

https://archive.ph/k6ESX

We are up against AI consumers and AI using operatives. We have to learn how this tech ish works.

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
44. It's real. WH (not Trump) said it was contractor doing regular maintenance work
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:01 PM
Sep 2
https://time.com/7313902/white-house-video-window/

“It was a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the President was gone,” the White House official said in a statement in response to questions about the images.


Article is worth a read for details. I think the Daily Beast had more details.

Weird stuff happens at the WH now and then. I do know that contractors like to throw stuff out of windows because it's more convenient than going up and down stairs. (Been there done that and so has anyone who owns a two story house. ) But it's the WH and stuff like that probably shouldn't be going on over there.

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
45. Okay, then. You make fair points. And I can't find any digital proof that it isn't. So thanks for your post.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:04 PM
Sep 2

Truth matters, not AI.

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
33. Do you have any evidence of this?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:45 PM
Sep 1

Beyond just claiming it? Like - you ran specific forensics online about the video that shows it's xx% likely AI?

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
34. Do you have evidence that it's not?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:04 PM
Sep 1

Did you challenge the previous poster's factual claim that sealed & bullet proof WH windows can't be opened? https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603005

No? Well, at least I've made a case for it.
You haven't even looked at who the sponsor of the video is, have you.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603059

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603155

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603113

If you want to help figure whether or not videos are AI generated, here's a start.



Here's a post of Rachel Maddow from a month ago.



If you expect or demand people that people do video forensics to fact check AI use, maybe rethink that.
 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
35. I'm not the one making a definitive claim. You did.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:11 PM
Sep 1

You didn't say, "It could be an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking...". You said: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking..." - that's why I asked. You seem certain it's AI and I just wanted to know what made you conclude that.

I never claimed in this thread - at any point - it's not AI. I don't know if it's real or not, which is why I am trying to understand why you're saying it's definitely AI.

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
36. You're the one claiming I made a definitive claim. .
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:17 PM
Sep 1
I don't know if it's real or not, which is why I am trying to understand why you're saying it's definitely AI.


I made the CASE for it being AI generated, which, after my effort post to you, is clear you haven't taken sufficient time to examine.

And when it comes to more than one poster here making factual claims, it seems apparent that you challenge who you want to challenge.

I'm not doing the work for you. Either look at my links or we're done here.

Wiz Imp

(7,329 posts)
37. You said this: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking"
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:31 PM
Sep 1

That 's the very definition of a definitive claim. (No "I think", or "I believe", or "in my opinion" - nope, just "it's an AI test video plant", period).

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
38. You did make the claim, tho.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:43 PM
Sep 1

This is a definitive claim:

It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking.

And you made no case in the message I replied to. I think any person who reads that post would deduce you were making a definitive claim - not a speculative one.

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
40. You did not post those in the original message I replied to...
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 10:06 PM
Sep 1

...which started this whole thing. I just asked for evidence of this DIRECT FOOTAGE. You still haven't provided anything beyond the fact AI video exists and can be used to manipulate ... but that doesn't prove or disprove anything in this video.

But again, that was not anywhere in your initial post, which definitively said it was AI. Not maybe AI. Not you think it's AI - but that it was AI.

Jrose

(1,495 posts)
11. My theory is that a large bird (hawk or falcon) got into the White House
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 1

and flew up into that room... so that window was opened and the bird was tossed out.
Also saw recent photos online of many large, dark birds gathering in front of the White House.
Ominous!

ancianita

(41,902 posts)
15. Beware of Occupy Democrats, BP.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:25 PM
Sep 1
Evaluation by academia
In 2017, the Asan Institute for Policy Studies said that Occupy Democrats "share[s] both real and fake news ... further blurring the line between fact and fiction".[14] Some scientific studies have identified Occupy Democrats as a fake news website.[46][47][48][49]

According to the University of Iowa library, Occupy Democrats "has been known to show misleading, fake, or exaggerated partisan content".[22] The Valencia College library includes Occupy Democrats on a list of sources that "cannot usually be accepted at face value and need further verification from other sources to determine if information is credible".[50] In a 2017 poster session developed by the library staff of the University of California at Merced, Occupy Democrats was rated "questionable" for its factual reporting and was noted for "not having a very good fact check record".[51]

Evaluation by media
Occupy Democrats has repeatedly been criticized by fact-checking websites for posting "exaggerated or invented news stories". Brooke Binkowski, a managing editor at Snopes, commented that Occupy Democrats' headlines were often "extremely misleading".[33]

According to The Atlantic, Occupy Democrats' posts are "studded with straightforwardly fake news".[16] The Los Angeles Weekly reports that its posts are "free from the constraints of objectivity and, in some cases, facts".[5] A 2016 BuzzFeed News analysis found it was "the least accurate left-wing page" of several Facebook pages it reviewed and cited one instance where it published a satirical story as fact.[52] In the run-up to the 2020 U.S. presidential election, The New York Times reported that Occupy Democrats "twisted facts to push a critical narrative about Republicans".[53]

In 2017, PolitiFact included Occupy Democrats in its list of fake news websites. However, PolitiFact later removed Occupy Democrats from its list of fake news sites and, according to the Miami New Times, "admitted Occupy Democrats should never have been on the list in the first place".[54] As of December 2020, PolitiFact classified 62% of 16 posts shared by Occupy Democrats it had evaluated as "not accurate".[55] A further 31% it considered "half-true".[55]

In 2021, a post shared by Occupy Democrats claimed Nikki Haley had changed her first name to sound more "white" in order to further her political career.[56] A fact check column by USA Today reported that Nikki was her legal middle name, she had used it as a given name since childhood, and that it was of ethnic Punjabi origin...

Popular perception
In a 2017 survey among US readers, Occupy Democrats was voted the "least trusted news source" among American readers, just below Breitbart News and BuzzFeed.[66] In September 2018, the English Wikipedia deprecated Occupy Democrats as a source due to its unreliability.[67][68] In an October 2018 Simmons Research survey of 38 news organizations, Occupy Democrats was ranked the third least-trusted news organization by Americans, underneath Breitbart News, the Daily Kos and the Palmer Report, with InfoWars and The Daily Caller being lower-ranked.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Democrats

A LOT of AI is going to be used in the midterms runup. We need to stay aware of this.

Wiz Imp

(7,329 posts)
43. It's been confirmed to be real
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 03:56 PM
Sep 2
https://time.com/7313902/white-house-video-window/
White House Says Viral Video of Object Tossed Out Window Was Result of ‘Regular Maintenance’
A video posted online on Monday of a black bag being heaved out of the White House showed maintenance work being done by a contractor, according to a White House official.

The video was originally posted on an Instagram account called “Washingtonianprobs” and spread widely on social media, prompting jokes about White House security protocol and speculation about what was being thrown out. It shows a person wearing white pants stepping a foot out onto a windowsill on the second floor of the White House and tossing down what appears to be a black plastic bag. Later someone tosses something long and white out the window. The second floor of the White House is where the President’s private residence is located.

“It was a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the President was gone,” the White House official said in a statement in response to questions about the images.


I'm sure all those people who insisted it was AI will be back to admit they were wrong


BigmanPigman

(53,805 posts)
49. I saw that on Meidas about an hour ago.....
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sep 2

I'm surprised that a reporter brought it up. Then he lies about AI. How convenient for him. AI causes lies and shows truths. It's both good and bad.

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