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Eliot Rosewater

(33,939 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:16 PM Sep 3

Everyone must read this excerpt from British newspaper,, it's amazing it's amazing it's amazing!

Excerpts from The Times of London.

Someone asked, "Why don't some Britons like Donald Trump?"

Nate White, an eloquent and witty English writer, wrote this magnificent response:

Trump lacks certain qualities that the British traditionally value.

He has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor, and no grace—qualities, oddly enough, with which his predecessor, Mr. Obama, was generously endowed.

While Trump may be ridiculous, he has never said anything ironic, amusing, or even mildly funny—not once, ever. I don't mean this rhetorically, I mean it literally: never. To British sensibilities a lack of humor is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it's a fact. He doesn't even seem to understand what a joke is—to him, a joke is a crude comment, an illiterate insult, an act of casual cruelty.

Trump is like a troll, he's never funny or laughs; he just squeals with delight or mockery.

And the scary thing is, he doesn't just utter crude and stupid insults: he actually thinks while he uses them. His mind is a mere robotic algorithm of petty prejudices and instinctive nastiness.

There is never an underlying layer of irony, complexity, nuance, or depth. It's all superficial. We see him as lacking an inner world, a soul.

In Britain, we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky outsiders: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky nor an outsider. He's the opposite.

He's not even a spoiled rich boy, nor a greedy fat cat.

He's more of a big white slug, a privileged Jabba the Hutt.

And worse, he's a bully.

When he finds himself in the midst of bullies; in that case, he suddenly transforms into a sniveling sidekick.

He strikes downwards—something a gentleman should not, could not, and should never do—and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly enjoys hitting the vulnerable or the voiceless—and he hits them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority—perhaps a third—of Americans watch what he does, listen to what he says, and then think, “Yes, he seems like my kind of guy” is a source of confusion and great distress to the British.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him utter a sentence or two, without staring into the abyss. He makes artlessness an art form; he's a Picasso of pettiness, a Shakespeare of shit. His flaws are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

There have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of evil people too. But rarely has stupidity been so evil, and rarely has evil been so stupid.

He makes Nixon seem trustworthy and George W. seem intelligent.

If Frankenstein decided to create a monster composed entirely of human flaws, he would create a Trump and a remorseful Dr. Frankenstein screamed in anguish, "My God what have I created?"

If an idiot were a television show, Trump would be the box set.

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Everyone must read this excerpt from British newspaper,, it's amazing it's amazing it's amazing! (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Sep 3 OP
This never ages malaise Sep 3 #1
I think Mr. White authored that piece years ago. John1956PA Sep 3 #2
Yes InstantGratification Sep 3 #4
Anybody got a link? calimary Sep 3 #8
There's no direct link to Nate White's original write-up on Quora, Feb. 12, 2019. Quora later took it down. ancianita Sep 3 #13
First time I've seen it that I can remember, if the same person had to write it now Eliot Rosewater Sep 3 #19
Totally agree. ancianita Sep 3 #21
Nate White is a London copywriter. He answered a Quora question on February 12, 2019 with the reply the OP shows. Celerity Sep 3 #26
"Mr. Obama, was generously endowed" JoseBalow Sep 3 #3
Snicker hibbing Sep 3 #18
My problem with Mr. White is he's much too nice, regarding Donald Trump. chouchou Sep 3 #5
"Yes, he seems like my kind of guy" is a source of confusion and great distress to the British. progressoid Sep 3 #6
Yes, it most certainly is. 3catwoman3 Sep 3 #20
This goes back to its first run for prez, and never grows old Hekate Sep 3 #7
It may be old but it's still as new as tiny, newly-sprouting weeds. calimary Sep 3 #9
See Post 26 (White posted it on February 12, 2019) Celerity Sep 3 #28
Excellent analysis of the orange felon Grim Chieftain Sep 3 #10
Well, that sums it up nicely ashredux Sep 3 #11
Goddamn right. Krasnov is an ignoramus. Joinfortmill Sep 3 #12
"He's more of a big white slug, a privileged Jabba the Hutt" Ray Bruns Sep 3 #14
"There have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of evil people too.... FakeNoose Sep 3 #15
Wow. Endlessmike56 Sep 3 #16
Thanks for sharing. If it is actually that old, it is uncanny how accurate and prescient it is blue_jay Sep 3 #17
Great Britain is having nativist problems right now wolfie001 Sep 3 #22
English wit is razor sharp thought crime Sep 3 #23
"Picasso of pettiness," Butterflylady Sep 3 #24
K&R spanone Sep 3 #25
Absolutely perfect of what the orange piece of shit is.....to perfection. a kennedy Sep 3 #27
"He has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility..." it's no wonder that he decided to become an asshole. Ping Tung Sep 3 #29
No more needs to be said. kacekwl Sep 3 #30
K and r KentuckyWoman Sep 3 #31
The guy has around a 3 percent approval rating in MW67 Sep 3 #32
Wish I had an answer Blue Owl Sep 3 #33
This caught my eye... kentuck Sep 3 #34
Spot On Chicagogrl1 Sep 3 #35
So perfectly stated, "a Picasso of pettiness, a Shakespeare of shit." nt ShazamIam Sep 3 #36
May be an optimistic statement: RVN VET71 Sep 3 #37
Beautifully stated! Eliot Rosewater Sep 4 #40
Dump trump Johnnie Mae Sep 4 #38
Best description of Krasnov I've ever read. GoodRaisin Sep 4 #39
An excellent analysis of one who truly B.See Sep 4 #41
100% Mr.Bee Sep 4 #42
Simply marvelous description of TSF's personality characteristics. n/t iluvtennis Sep 4 #43
...boxed set! 🤣lol! Hope22 Sep 4 #44
This one sentence floored me in it's accuracy: DeeDeeNY Sep 4 #45
And WE, as a country elected this freak sdfernando Sep 4 #46
Bookmarked. Iggo Sep 4 #47
4. Yes
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sep 3

One tip off is the reference to Mr. Obama as his predecessor. This was written during Dumpster Fire's first term, the flaming shit show is much worse this go around.

ancianita

(41,734 posts)
13. There's no direct link to Nate White's original write-up on Quora, Feb. 12, 2019. Quora later took it down.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:33 PM
Sep 3

This link from roughly a year ago (with comments long before that) shows what Nate White says within a Quora discussion... if it was seen in the Times of London, it likely didn't originate there, but in White's blog.




https://www.quora.com/When-did-Nate-White-write-his-description-of-Trump

Eliot Rosewater

(33,939 posts)
19. First time I've seen it that I can remember, if the same person had to write it now
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:26 PM
Sep 3

There would have to be more about how the piece of shit is trying to kill millions of people I guess.

But it is fun to read.

Celerity

(51,887 posts)
26. Nate White is a London copywriter. He answered a Quora question on February 12, 2019 with the reply the OP shows.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:33 PM
Sep 3

Quora bots deleted the question soon thereafter.

Here is White's profile:



Here is the link to the question:






Here is the earliest link I could find to another site that highlights White's answer (it was posted less than a month after White's Quora answer went up):

British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I’ve Read

March 8, 2019 ~ THE HOBBLEDEHOY

https://thehobbledehoy.com/2019/03/08/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-trump-ive-read/



Someone on the question-and-answer website Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.

progressoid

(51,861 posts)
6. "Yes, he seems like my kind of guy" is a source of confusion and great distress to the British.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:05 PM
Sep 3

It's a source of confusion and great distress to us too.

3catwoman3

(27,659 posts)
20. Yes, it most certainly is.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:30 PM
Sep 3

I exist on a constant state of incredulity that enough of our countrymen are gullible enough, stupid enough, mean enough, hateful enough, ignorant enough, etc, etc, to have done this to our nation twice.

FakeNoose

(38,556 posts)
15. "There have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of evil people too....
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:58 PM
Sep 3

" .... But rarely has stupidity been so evil, and rarely has evil been so stupid."

Nice summation there!


blue_jay

(99 posts)
17. Thanks for sharing. If it is actually that old, it is uncanny how accurate and prescient it is
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sep 3

Sadly I think there are many people in America (certainly elsewhere too) with the seeds of Trumpishness within them but only a privileged few, through dumb luck, power or corruption are able to damage so many with the damaged psyche they carry within themselves, mental anguish that was instilled at a young age and never challenged, encouraged to change or assisted to heal. I see it in many around me who have the seeds of bullying and defensiveness within them because of fragile self-esteem I suspect. Only those with enough better angels in their lives and patient teachers can even make a dent in this broken mindset, but if none of try to reach the ones around us whom we can, in an empathetic way (and yes this process is tedious and painful), the world will always reflect this back to us to see where we have given up. It is easier to let the psychopaths among us rise to power because dealing with them is so exhausting, especially without support from others. Just my opinion after avoiding confronting the things and people I didn't like for many years only to see them elevated to the heights of power. I am glad at least some/ more people are standing up for what is right now. Perhaps America is getting its mojo back.

wolfie001

(6,067 posts)
22. Great Britain is having nativist problems right now
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:17 PM
Sep 3

Attacking Labor and blaming Labor for all the ills the Conservacunts (Tories) have built into the system. Farage is trying to lead these a-holes. Painting red crosses all over.

Ping Tung

(3,563 posts)
29. "He has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility..." it's no wonder that he decided to become an asshole.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 3

Blue Owl

(57,302 posts)
33. Wish I had an answer
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:43 PM
Sep 3

But I am at a loss to understand what ANYONE sees in this disgusting con man.

kentuck

(114,591 posts)
34. This caught my eye...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:47 PM
Sep 3

"So the fact that a significant minority—perhaps a third—of Americans watch what he does, listen to what he says, and then think, “Yes, he seems like my kind of guy” is a source of confusion and great distress to the British."

RVN VET71

(2,996 posts)
37. May be an optimistic statement:
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:29 PM
Sep 3

"So the fact that a significant minority—perhaps a third—of Americans watch what he does, listen to what he says, and then think, “Yes, he seems like my kind of guy” is a source of confusion and great distress to the British."

I'd say closer to half America's voting public can't get enough of this ancient, incontinent, degenerate, child rapist. 77,000,000 voted for him. An enormous number of enablers for the sadist who has never shirked at voicing his disdain for what was once proudly considered "the American Way!" and acting to change the Country of his birth to a cesspool of hatred, suspicion, and racism.

B.See

(6,410 posts)
41. An excellent analysis of one who truly
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:42 AM
Sep 4

ranks as the world's worst of the worse.

And the fact that many of his devotees not only still stand BY him, but believe he's God's anointed one,

only confirms that there are a significant number of Americans among us who are just as twisted, sick, and EVIL as he.

Says a lot, to the rest of the world, as to what nearly half of America REALLY stands for, DOESN'T it?

Bookmarked, K&R

DeeDeeNY

(3,822 posts)
45. This one sentence floored me in it's accuracy:
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
Sep 4

"His mind is a mere robotic algorithm of petty prejudices and instinctive nastiness."

sdfernando

(5,896 posts)
46. And WE, as a country elected this freak
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:54 PM
Sep 4

not once, but TWICE!!!!

The European image of the crass, uncultured, rude, self-important, and stupid american (lower case a) is so well deserved!!!!

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