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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis opinion piece from "The Guardian" (Australia) says that Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer should.....
.......step down and be replaced by new people who are willing to fight Trump's authoritarianism tooth and nail. The writers say that 62% of Democratic voters agree that Dem leadership should be replaced. Put me down as a Minnesota DFL voter who could not agree more.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/03/democrats-chuck-schumer-hakeem-jeffries

RandySF
(76,953 posts)look to foreign publications for guidance on American politics.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,537 posts)FadedMullet
(466 posts)Paladin
(31,528 posts)Skittles
(167,068 posts)indeed they do
thomski64
(695 posts)To mention just 2...
Autumn
(48,292 posts)As for foreign countries being concerned about our politics and politicians? They have a direct impact on other countries world wide. They are right to be concerned.
JI7
(92,518 posts)Are these fighters unable to do this fighting from where they are now ?
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)David Hogg.
You know it's coming.
We listened to them about John Fetterman - and look at what a massive disappointment he's been.
The media knows nothing and are in it for themselves.
Nixie
(17,819 posts)But I do think your assessment is very accurate.
KPN
(16,904 posts)Jeffries at the helm, but what do I know? Well, I do know what my instincts tell me. And they are in agreement with the OP.
Bread and Circuses
(1,076 posts)RandySF
(76,953 posts)Because it seems nothing short of that will be enough "determination" to satisfy columnist who aren't even in the country.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)Autumn
(48,292 posts)fascist bullshit.
Nixie
(17,819 posts)tiresome. They knew Trump was the alternative. They just dont like their FAFO and want to put blame elsewhere for putting Democrats in the minority.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,625 posts)will be they didn't use the right accelerant, and the wind wasn't blowing in the right direction so it wasn't fiery enough, and they didn't burn long enough, and they did it while I was at work and I missed the whole thing so it's utterly meaningless and all is lost and hopeless until someone fights tooth and nail, dammit!!
LudwigPastorius
(13,338 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(104,537 posts)FadedMullet
(466 posts)......five editions that are available.
malaise
(288,586 posts)Huh?
FadedMullet
(466 posts)malaise
(288,586 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:19 AM - Edit history (1)
Add
Apparently there is an Australian web edition of The Guardian - my bad.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news
FadedMullet
(466 posts)malaise
(288,586 posts)
Celerity
(51,751 posts)democrank
(11,730 posts)I find it helpful to evaluate a variety of perspectives when formulating conclusions. Thats especially true now with my partys approval rating below 30%. Im asking myself why? What needs to change?
malaise
(288,586 posts)on the planet
perdita9
(1,300 posts)They went after Howard Dean for a weird yell he did at a rally
They went along with Bush's campaign to swiftboat John Kerry , knowing the whole thing was a lie
"But her emails" and " Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" took out Hilary Clinton
A couple of weeks before the election, I watched Washington Week reporters savage Kamala Harris for not being forceful enough in her answers in some interview, never mentioning Trump publicly praising Arnold Palmer's genitalia.
Newsrooms are controlled by uber wealthy people who want tax breaks. Any Democrat with a platform to even the playing field gets targeted.
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malaise
(288,586 posts)Right?
ananda
(32,970 posts)..
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)The NEVER call out what is happening in America as the fascist dictatorship it is.
This 'policy' leadership bullshit only accomplishes fragmenting the party.
It's by design. If Dems had it all and their perfect utopia existed? A lot of these people would lose their jobs.
ananda
(32,970 posts)BBC is a good source.
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)We have BBC World on our television.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)they cannot pass the purity test. None shall pass.
Again, the problem is Republicans, they could stop Trump right now. They have the power. They could meet the moment. The Democratic Party has nothing to do with it.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)Hes an anti-choice homophobe who regularly ranted against Biden and the Democratic Party.
lostincalifornia
(4,338 posts)gab13by13
(29,636 posts)never get fired. The ones who stray from the narrative they are given, the ones who speak truth to power are fired.
My favorite was Dylan Ratigan who was touring the country exposing crony capitalism. he stepped on too many powerful peoples' toes like Mehdi did. Dylan was in tears saying goodbye, I miss him, he was authentic, something lacking in most cable news anchors.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)Hasan is a bigoted ass.
FadedMullet
(466 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)bashing democrats is now right about bashing democrats. Yeah right. 🤦♂️
FadedMullet
(466 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)Ive seen his rants attacking Biden and democrats. He sucks.
FadedMullet
(466 posts)Violet_Crumble
(36,338 posts)Also, when it comes to the accusation of being a bigot, do you have any examples of him being homophobic? I personally don't give a shit if he is opposed to abortion, though would change my mind on that if he wanted it made illegal and actively spoke out about it.
My view of Hasan is he's incredibly intelligent, makes compelling arguments backed up with facts, and is easily more articulate and effective than anyone else I've seen and heard. I suspect some dislike him because he's progressive, Muslim, speaks the truth about Israel's war crimes, and can be critical of Democrats when they deserve criticism.
Did you watch the Jubilee episode? It was awesome, but pretty disturbing.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)Just as Im entitled to mine. Im here to support democrats and the Democratic Party not to defend an overpaid tv talking head who always thinks hes the smartest guy in the room from any and all criticism. But to each his own.
Violet_Crumble
(36,338 posts)Yr making accusations and I asked for some examples. Have you got any or are those accusations of bigotry and bashing Dems just yr opinion?
SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)But Im in no way obligated to answer. As I said Im here to support democrats not to be a corporate media minon.
writerJT
(455 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,318 posts)Like it was a 2009 sermon, and he said like 5 years ago that he is not proud of those views and no longer holds them.
As to bashing Biden, I remember him being very unhappy about Biden's policy on Gaza (many here aren't happy about that) and he wasn't a fan of his pardon of Hunter (I, also, thought that was a horrible move with terrible optics).
SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)A lot of people didnt buy it and said it took him way too long to do so and was just good public relations on his part.
As far as Biden, it was more than just Gaza. https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/mehdi-hasan-hits-out-at-cult-like-blue-maga-democrats-quashing-biden-criticism/
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/mehdi-hasan-splits-from-msnbc-colleagues-on-bidens-oval-office-speech-messaging-is-all-wrong/
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/mehdi-hasan-dunks-on-bidens-cutesy-use-of-ultra-maga-trump-loves-it-and-the-republican-party-started-selling-merch/
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/msnbcs-mehdi-hasan-shreds-biden-for-lackluster-messaging-on-boosters-a-spectacular-and-deadly-failure/
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/you-had-a-month-mehdi-hasan-tees-off-on-congress-biden-admin-for-failing-to-extend-eviction-moratorium/
As Ive said before, Im here to support democrats. I find it stunning that some spend more time defending some tv celebrity who bashes democrats and cant bear to hear any criticism of the celebrity. Reminds me of the same cult like behavior of Trump supporters.
bucolic_frolic
(52,215 posts)I don't see how this advances the ball.
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)This is NOT the time for ANY Democratic Elected official who serves in D.C. to step down.
Where's the article saying that Thune and Johnson are little fascist pigs and they need to be dominated and brought to heel like the rabid little fascists they are?
Put me down as Blue Jerseyan who believes in State's Rights and that we should band together with other Northeast states (not PA - too risky) and soft secede.
If the FAR left was so great - they would have swept every election since 2016.
gab13by13
(29,636 posts)sheshe2
(93,498 posts)Nice try.
sheshe2
(93,498 posts)And against anyone that wishes to silence your voice.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)Only Democrats need constant daily nagging and bashing, eh?
The far right Tea Party types took over the Republican Party because voters wanted that. A take over of the Democratic Party didn't happen because voters didn't and don't want it. The fairy tales about the Democratic old guard/establishment/centrists/DNC boogeyman somehow rigging everything "holding members back" and so on is stupid.
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)
That people don't like the Democratic Party.
Oh really? Because the Democratic Party and Republican Party actually WIN elections.
Also - most Americans don't like ANY political party.
So when I see the Greens, DSA, Libertarians, etc. etc. put up some ground shaking big wins and take overs of local, state, and fed gov - I'll pay attention to them.
Show me your party can win on its own - and then I'll pay attention to their voters.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)Absurd to try to convince us that the Democratic Party is somehow so horrible everybody hates them now.
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)It's global.
Iggo
(49,140 posts)
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)Can you point me to the Green Party or DSA Elected Official? The one that ran as a third party?
On the Right - Can you show me the Libertarian? That ass wipe in Kentucky runs as a Republican - not a third party Libertarian.
Working Families has put up big wins - but I don't view them as Far Left. They are staunch liberals (Pro Union, Public Education, Fair wages, etc etc) 12 of their candidates for the Party within the Party won seats in the NYC council in 2010. Our Congressional Candidate in 2024, in my district in NJ, is WFP aligned. She's now a high ranking employee of my Senator Andy Kim.
Angus King runs as an Independent. He's not owned by anyone.
gab13by13
(29,636 posts)do what Rho Khanna did yesterday?
I have been saying for over a month that Congressional Democrats should organize a forum with the Epstein victims, victims' lawyers, prosecutors and get a major TV network to cover it.
What Massey and Khanna did yesterday was fantastic, but it was held out in the grass of the Capitol, and with the distractions of Krasnov's flyovers.
We need 2 more Congressional Magats to sign the discharge petition to get the Epstein files released. Thank you Rho Kanna for fighting.
marmar
(78,816 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(12,906 posts)than almost any US media there is. "Fight me. Anyway, I agree with Medhi about Schumer. He's too much of a "go along to get along" sort to succeed these days. We need someone really fiery and he ain't it. Jeffries, I'm not so sure. If he had a strong counterpart in the Senate, he might be much better. I've heard him be really fiery himself. But Chuck is just too folksy, too grandfatherly, and, dare I say it, too much like Susan Collins, for these times.
marmar
(78,816 posts)Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #38)
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sprinkleeninow
(21,533 posts)FadedMullet
(466 posts)......someone here has said that it appeared in all of the editions.
Nanjeanne
(6,402 posts)Democratic plan - no Democratic point of view - no Project XXXX outlining what a Democratic administration would be. No one is saying there arent some Democrats fighting hard. But theres no PLAN. Not by Schumer or Jeffries or Martin of the DNC. Its every Dem for themselves and its why we look feckless and disjointed and weak.
gab13by13
(29,636 posts)Back in March when he and a minority of Senate Democrats kneecapped the House and voted to allow passage of the CR and getting absolutely nothing in return, no protections for the social safety net, he went on Chris Hayes and explained why he gave Krasnov his CR.
Not my words, Schumer's, he told Hayes that he was afraid that Democrats would be blamed for a shutdown, he told Hayes that Krasnov will burn it all down and then that will enable Democrats to win the next election. That is the strategy, that is why I get a dozen texts every day to donate money to someone's campaign. The strategy is to throw money at the 2026 election.
Last March was the time for Democrats to take a stand and demand protections for our social safety net. I was told that Medicare and Social Security would be safe. Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are being gutted and we can't do a damn thing about it because we didn't fight back last March.
Just my humble opinion.
I'm 78, I can get by without Social Security, I have a pension and a 401k. I can get by without Medicare, but it will be tougher, I have Union provided secondary insurance plan. I am thinking about the millions of people who won't be able to get by.
Krasnov wants people to die, those who die are deemed inferior and are not a part of the remaining master race.
yellow dahlia
(2,830 posts)bigtree
(92,385 posts)...fuck that.
Mehdi Hasan with Cuomo: 'I see no way back for Biden; replace him with Harris'
Mehdi Hasan
Joe Biden Is Hillary Clinton 2.0 Democrats Would Be Mad to Nominate Him
Forget, for a moment, his blue-collar-uncle-at-the-end-of-the-bar persona. Ignore also his recent, and ridiculous, claim to have the most progressive record of anybody running for president. Consider, instead, the sheer number of similarities he seems to have with the vanquished Democratic presidential candidate of 2016.
Iraq War supporter? Check. Clinton was pilloried by the left and the right alike as a wild-eyed hawk; her vote in favor of the Iraq invasion haunted both her 2008 and 2016 campaigns. In fact, a study by two academics in 2017 found a significant and meaningful relationship between a communitys rate of military sacrifice and its support for Trump and suggested that if Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin had suffered even a modestly lower casualty rate, they could have sent Hillary Clinton to the White House.
Lets be clear: If he runs, Biden will be the only candidate out of up to 20 Democrats running for the nomination to have voted for the Iraq War. As the influential chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in the run-up to the invasion, Biden (falsely) claimed the United States had no choice but to eliminate the threat from Saddam Hussein. A former U.N. weapons inspector even accused the then-senator of running a sham committee hearing that provided political cover for a massive military attack on Iraq.
Friend of Wall Street? Check. Clinton had a Goldman Sachs problem; Biden has an MBNA problem. Headquartered in his home state of Delaware, the credit card giant MBNA was his biggest donor when he served in the Senate. In 2005, Biden threw his weight behind a bankruptcy bill, signed into law by President George W. Bush, that shamefully protected credit card companies at the expense of borrowers.
https://theintercept.com/2019/03/21/joe-biden-2020-hillary-clinton/

gab13by13
(29,636 posts)bigtree
(92,385 posts)...just to make this clear, since the post above hasn't gotten any response.
And here we go again.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,720 posts)They want some magical savior to appear and fix this messed up country. Bernie was robbed , democrats are not fighting hard enough, were not progressive enough,
We are not focused on economic issues and Obamacare was a failure because it wasnt universal healthcare. They find anything to complain about and look far and wide to find it. It is depressing and demoralizing when the sob is tearing the country apart and the Epstein files.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,625 posts)their goal is to make us depressed and demoralized, and to keep us that way.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,225 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,720 posts)That the American people are so stupid they voted to cut their own throats. The first time may be a mistake, the second time is just crazy stupid. His racism ,sexism, ignorance, pettiness and incompetence was on display and almost destroyed the country. Please sir may I have another.
Srkdqltr
(8,850 posts)WHO .... makes them quit? Is there such a person?
WHO .... votes for their replacement?
WHO ... replaces them?
HOW DOES ALL THIS WORK?
Midwestern Democrat
(965 posts)a challenger - of course, if it got to that point, Schumer and Jeffries would almost certainly "voluntarily" step down from their posts rather than being defeated in a caucus vote.
LeftInTX
(33,569 posts)They need a bunch of experience and with the experience comes routine etc. So, the public will then be disappointed.
JustAnotherGen
(36,879 posts)We'll have a full blown Northeast Alliance. Schumer and Jeffries will be pushed to join us. The US Democratic Party will be looking to Texas and Florida for leadership. That will be stage 2. Soft Secession is already happening.
Ramp up would be the stolen 2026 election by the Regime. If that happens, the Northeast like the West will be going it alone. I'm on the ground in NJ LD-16 - and I have my own constituents in my Borough within that district.
The Rage of average Janes and Joes in Blue and Purple states is not being reported on. It is rage we are hearing in this local, Assembly, and Governor's race. Rage.
I'd love to hear what folks in VA are encountering.
What happens in NJ and VA matters this year. What steps are taken in the first 100 days of these two states determines how far the Regime will go to impose its unAmerican values on Blue States.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,625 posts)and click your heels together three times.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)Start an economic revolution by having rallies! When asked how, mumble grumpily about not having the details in your pocket, then accuse your allies of being corrupt coastal elites paling around with oligarchs and Republicans.
Quiet Em
(2,192 posts)and I want Hakeem Jeffries as leader and as Speaker. I think he's been doing an excellent job with the hand he's been dealt and he always keeps the Democratic coalition on the same page.
The bashing of Hakeem Jeffries is getting old. It's just like the non stop bashing of Pelosi. I'm sick of it.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)replace her, was clinging to power, would never impeach Trump, attack attack attack.
Even I knew Jeffries was Pelosi's protege and I'm not a member of the House like the person who said that she didn't have one (and the f I Don't Know Anything But Know I'm Right Let's Revolution people), and of course she did "pass the torch" to the next generation of leadership. And here we are, same old whine-bashing a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus as status quo establishment who hates progressives BS. Doesn't matter who it is, same attack and always wrong.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,625 posts)Name them.
And describe what fighting "tooth and nail" looks like in reality.
This crap is so far beyond tedious and boring.
betsuni
(28,285 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(5,555 posts)not anything that will help anyone in anyway way but grand demonstrations that will make some happy. Personally, I prefer real accomplishments that actually helps people.