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littlemissmartypants

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Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:20 AM Friday

RFK Jr. vs USA: Is it Genocide, Eugenics or Social Murder

Last edited Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:43 AM - Edit history (1)

Or some combination of it all as conceived by the regime? I will address all three. You decide. Then hopefully, you will call your congress person and tell them your concerns using some of the information supplied here.

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●Genocide
Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, ethnic, national, or religious group.

This can involve acts such as killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting living conditions intended to destroy the group, and imposing measures to prevent births within the group. The term was coined in 1944 by Polish-Jewish lawyer Raphael Lemkin, combining the Greek word "genos" (meaning "race" or "family" ) with the Latin "cide" (meaning "killing" ).

Legal Definition of Genocide
The **1948 Genocide Convention** provides a legal framework for understanding genocide. According to Article II of the Convention, genocide includes any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group:

1. **Killing members of the group.**
2. **Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.**
3. **Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction.**
4. **Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.**
5. **Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.**

This definition emphasizes both the **intent** to destroy a group and the specific acts that constitute genocide.

Historical Context and Examples
Genocide has been a tragic part of human history, with several notable instances:

The **Armenian Genocide** (1915) involved the mass killing of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire.
The **Holocaust** (1941-1945) saw the extermination of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.
The **Khmer Rouge** regime in Cambodia (1975-1979) led to the deaths of approximately three million people.
The **Rwandan Genocide** (1994) resulted in the slaughter of around 800,000 Tutsi by Hutu extremists.

These events illustrate the devastating impact of genocide and the importance of international laws to prevent such atrocities.

Broader Implications
The concept of genocide has transformed international law and global politics. It has led to the establishment of various international courts and tribunals aimed at prosecuting those responsible for genocidal acts. The recognition of genocide as a crime under international law underscores the global commitment to preventing such atrocities in the future.

●Eugenics
Eugenics is a social and scientific movement that aims to improve the genetic quality of a human population. This is often pursued through selective breeding, sterilization, and other means to encourage the reproduction of individuals with desirable traits while discouraging or preventing reproduction among those deemed to have undesirable traits.

Historically, eugenics has been associated with controversial and unethical practices, including forced sterilizations and discriminatory policies, particularly in the early to mid-20th century. The movement has been widely discredited due to its association with human rights abuses and its flawed scientific foundations.

Definition of Eugenics
Eugenics is a social and scientific movement. The term was coined by **Francis Galton** in the late 19th century, derived from the Greek word "eugenes," meaning "well-born" or "noble." The movement gained traction in the early 20th century, particularly in the United States and Europe, advocating for selective breeding to enhance desirable traits and reduce the prevalence of undesirable ones.

Key Concepts in Eugenics
1. **Positive Eugenics**: This aspect promotes the reproduction of individuals with desirable traits, such as intelligence, physical health, and moral character. It encourages those deemed "fit" to have more children.

2. **Negative Eugenics**: This focuses on reducing reproduction among individuals considered "unfit," often targeting those with disabilities, mental illnesses, or certain social backgrounds. This has historically led to forced sterilizations and other human rights abuses.

3. **Racial and Ethnic Considerations**: Eugenics has often been intertwined with ideas of racial superiority, leading to discriminatory practices against marginalized groups. This aspect was particularly evident in Nazi Germany, where eugenics policies contributed to horrific human rights violations, including genocide.

Historical Context and Impact
Eugenics was widely accepted in the early 20th century, influencing policies in various countries, including the United States, where laws were enacted to restrict marriage and reproduction among certain populations. However, the movement faced significant backlash after World War II, particularly due to its association with the atrocities committed by the Nazis.

Modern Perspectives
Today, eugenics is largely discredited and viewed as unethical. The field of genetics has advanced significantly, leading to discussions about genetic engineering and gene editing technologies like CRISPR. While these technologies hold promise for treating genetic disorders, they also raise ethical questions reminiscent of the eugenics movement, particularly concerning consent, equity, and the potential for new forms of discrimination.

Eugenics serves as a cautionary tale about the intersection of science, ethics, and social policy, reminding us of the importance of human rights and dignity in any scientific endeavor.

Current Perspectives on Eugenics (2025)
Eugenics, once a widely accepted movement aimed at improving the genetic quality of human populations, has seen a resurgence in discussions and critiques in recent years. The term evokes a complex legacy of both scientific inquiry and human rights abuses, and its implications continue to resonate in contemporary society.

Historical Context
Eugenics was popularized in the early 20th century, particularly in the United States and Europe, where it was associated with policies promoting selective breeding and the sterilization of individuals deemed "unfit." The movement was discredited after World War II due to its association with Nazi atrocities, but its ideas have persisted in various forms.

Modern Interpretations and Concerns
1. **Soft Eugenics**: Recent discussions have introduced the concept of "soft eugenics," which refers to non-coercive methods of influencing reproductive choices through social and environmental interventions. Critics argue that this approach can still perpetuate harmful ideologies by promoting the idea that certain traits are inherently superior or inferior. For instance, some political figures have been accused of advocating for policies that indirectly encourage "survival of the fittest" by dismantling social safety nets and healthcare services.

2. **Health Policies and Disability Rights**: Activists have raised alarms about the echoes of eugenics in current health policies, particularly those that disproportionately affect marginalized communities. The dismantling of protections for people with disabilities and the promotion of personal responsibility in health outcomes are seen as modern manifestations of eugenic thinking. This perspective emphasizes that social determinants of health, such as economic status and access to care, are often overlooked in favor of individual choices.

3. **Criminal Justice and Eugenics**: A recent report highlighted the historical roots of "habitual offender" laws in eugenics, revealing how these laws were designed to control populations deemed undesirable. The persistence of such laws today reflects a legacy of eugenic thought that continues to impact marginalized communities, particularly in the context of systemic racism and inequality.

4. **Genetic Technologies**: Advances in reproductive technologies, such as genetic screening and embryo selection, have reignited debates about the ethical implications of eugenics. While these technologies can help prevent genetic disorders, they also raise concerns about the potential for new forms of discrimination and the revival of eugenic ideologies.

●Social Murder
The term **social murder** refers to a concept introduced by Friedrich Engels in his work "The Condition of the Working Class in England." It describes the idea that societal conditions, particularly those created by capitalism and social inequality, can lead to the premature death of individuals or groups. This form of "murder" is not about physical violence but rather the systemic factors that contribute to poor health, lack of access to resources, and ultimately, death.

Key Aspects of Social Murder
**Systemic Inequality** Social murder highlights how social structures and economic systems can create environments where certain populations are more vulnerable to health issues and mortality.
**Neglect and Indifference** It emphasizes the role of neglect by those in power, where the well-being of marginalized groups is overlooked, leading to dire consequences.
**Public Health** The concept is often discussed in the context of public health, where social determinants like poverty, education, and access to healthcare significantly impact life expectancy.

This term is used in sociological and political discussions to critique how societal structures can harm individuals indirectly.

Definition of Social Murder
**Social murder** is a term that describes an unnatural death resulting from social, political, or economic oppression rather than direct violence. The concept was first introduced by **Friedrich Engels** in his 1845 work, *The Condition of the Working-Class in England*. Engels argued that societal conditions such as poverty, poor housing, and dangerous working environments lead to premature deaths among the working class, which he viewed as a form of murder perpetrated by the ruling class.

Key Aspects of Social Murder
1. **Premature Death** Social murder involves deaths that occur earlier than expected due to adverse social conditions.
2. **Exploitation** These conditions are often a result of systemic exploitation, particularly under capitalist systems.
3. **Benefiting Class** A specific class, typically the bourgeoisie, benefits from this exploitation and is aware of the consequences of their actions.
4. **State Responsibility** In modern contexts, social murder can also refer to deaths resulting from negligent public policies that fail to protect vulnerable populations.

Contemporary Usage
In recent years, the term has been used more broadly to address excess deaths caused by poor public policy, such as austerity measures or inadequate healthcare systems. For example, British politician **John McDonnell** has used the term to critique Conservative economic policies, while sociologists have linked it to rising suicide rates and malnutrition among the working class.

The concept of social murder highlights the intersection of social justice and public health, emphasizing that societal structures can lead to preventable deaths.

References:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

https://www.sentencingproject.org/press-releases/new-report-from-the-sentencing-project-reveals-the-hidden-eugenics-history-behind-americas-harsh-sentencing-laws/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5142005

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder


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RFK Jr. vs USA: Is it Genocide, Eugenics or Social Murder (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Friday OP
It's greed and cruelty. Irish_Dem Friday #1
It sounds like a BlueMTexpat Friday #2
Nicely put together - bookmarking. harumph Friday #3
Thank you, harumph. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Friday #4
It can be all of those things, but behind it just plain insanity. ananda Friday #5

Irish_Dem

(73,928 posts)
1. It's greed and cruelty.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:46 AM
Friday

The wealthy believe all wealth belongs to them.
They are addicted to money and power.

They refuse to pay for the old, sick, infirm to stay alive.
If children cannot fight off childhood diseases they are worthless.
A good way to cull the herd.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children.
Another good way to cull the herd, if you are too poor to send you kids to
schools with top notch security, you are worthless.

The rich no longer need humans, they have robots and AI.

Time to cull the herd and save a lot of money.
No need for Medicare, SS, healthcare, etc.

BlueMTexpat

(15,603 posts)
2. It sounds like a
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:17 AM
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deliberate combination of all of the above, caused by greed, cruelty. and basic inhumanity.

Nothing less.

ananda

(32,980 posts)
5. It can be all of those things, but behind it just plain insanity.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:16 AM
Friday

The Trump admin is just insane and stupid.

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