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OK, I understand that I can't make counterfeit legal tender (bills) and put them into circulation. For one thing, it dilutes the value of the currency. For another, there's no federal backing behind it.
So here's my question: If crypto and Bitcoin don't have value other than trading in crypto and Bitcoin, why aren't they as illegal as counterfeit money?

Johonny
(24,491 posts)There are a lot of valueless assets that trade on markets, many completely uncontrolled.
lame54
(38,336 posts)Eliminate the dollar and make our national currency comic books?
It's worse than I thought
JoseBalow
(8,326 posts)
viva la
(4,268 posts)and people swarm to buy it. Trump and his wife have both done it too.
I do see one advantage, because I know someone who lives in a country with currency that's almost worthless outside the country. If they'd years ago started filtering some money into Bitcoin, it would be available if they moved to Europe or the US. Of course, if it had plunged rather than exploded, they'd be out of luck. But because it's so unregulated, you can buy in secret and park it outside your country.
Good grief, I just realized that Trump named an entire new government "agency" after Musk's coin, and then put Musk in charge of it. The arrogance and triteness and griftiness of these people, and I use that last word knowing it's not really appropriate for these monsters.
Celerity
(51,773 posts)Dogecoin (Abbreviation: DOGE; sign: Ð) is a cryptocurrency created by software engineers Billy Markus and Jackson Palmer, who decided to create a payment system as a joke, making fun of the wild speculation in cryptocurrencies at the time.
It is considered both the first "meme coin", and more specifically the first "dog coin". Despite its satirical nature, some consider it a legitimate investment prospect. Dogecoin features the face of Kabosu from the "doge" meme as its logo and namesake.
It was introduced on December 6, 2013, and quickly developed its own online community, reaching a peak market capitalization of over US$85 billion on May 5, 2021.
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viva la
(4,268 posts)I see he did support it and invested in it, but he just clambered on the bandwagon, I guess.
Celerity
(51,773 posts)https://decrypt.co/101641/dogecoin-creator-jackson-palmer-i-wish-it-was-the-end-of-crypto-but-its-not
fujiyamasan
(609 posts)However, you are required to accept US currency if offered and when reporting income to thr IRS the money must be converted to US dollars and if taxes are due, paid to the government in US dollars. Whats also interesting is that the IRS considers bitcoin and crypto to be property, rather than currency. Each transaction could potentially be a taxable event.
I wouldnt consider paying or accepting bitcoin very practical though given the volatility alone.
republianmushroom
(21,271 posts)Just copyright laws ?
fujiyamasan
(609 posts)Or at least it would be nearly impossible.
I like this persons explanation. Theres more links on Google.
https://medium.com/@jelmersteen76/can-bitcoin-be-faked-a-deep-dive-into-satoshis-creation-646785aebe02
republianmushroom
(21,271 posts)Amazing. 10:33 AM
Conclusion: Can Bitcoin Be Faked?
Bitcoins tricky setup, with its blockchain, secret codes, and miners all over the world, makes it super hard to fake. Its like having everyone watch every transaction, with super-strong locks and a million computers protecting it. So, forget faking Bitcoin its close to impossible!
While some worry about people messing with the market, Bitcoins special features, like everyone seeing every transaction, make it almost impossible to cheat. So, the answer is clear: you cant really fake Bitcoin!
https://medium.com/@jelmersteen76/can-bitcoin-be-faked-a-deep-dive-into-satoshis-creation-646785aebe02
viva la
(4,268 posts)and lost-- QuadrigaCX in Canada (the CEO died mysteriously, leaving no access to client accounts).
There was some poor loser who lost the number of his "wallet" when he discarded a laptop hard drive, and went about crazy trying to get it from the landfill:
What happened to the guy who tossed a hard drive with 7500 bitcoins?
James Howells, from Newport, who claimed his ex-girlfriend mistakenly threw away a hard drive containing 8,000 bitcoins in 2013, has given up on retrieving the wallet, currently worth £695m, but has been hit with a £117,000 legal bill from his fight.Aug 7, 2025
Is this the end of the Newport tip Bitcoin saga? - BBC
BBC
https://www.bbc.com news articles
It's not that regular currency can't be stolen or lost, just usually not in that amount.