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babylonsister

(172,323 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:39 AM Friday

The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously

https://politicalwire.com/2025/09/05/the-world-no-longer-takes-trump-seriously/

The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously
September 5, 2025 at 11:08 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Tom Nichols: “The leaders of Russia, China, and North Korea are not good men. They preside over brutal autocracies replete with secret police and prison camps. But they are, nevertheless, serious men, and they know an unserious man when they see one.”

“For nearly a decade, they have taken Donald Trump’s measure, and they have clearly reached a conclusion: The president of the United States is not worthy of their respect
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The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously (Original Post) babylonsister Friday OP
Gone almost without notice in the US press: the EU and Mercosur are at threshold of a deal Prairie Gates Friday #1
it only stands to reason NJCher Friday #11
Trump is a useful idiot ... agingdem Friday #16
Let us not forget... GiqueCee Friday #12
"forfend" What a perfect word! BarbD Friday #31
Well, Duh? The rest of us knew he wasn't a serious person 8 years ago surfered Friday #2
hah, I just started a similar thought as another post. RoeVWade Friday #3
Great minds.... surfered Friday #9
I'm sure that they've known he's not a serious person for years. ShazzieB Friday #33
Trump never made it passed his terrible twos. I will never understand the appeal. n/t iscooterliberally Friday #4
Neither will I. calimary Friday #21
many americans never made it beyond that maturity either pimpbot Friday #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Friday #26
He hates the right people for the most of his followers. Norrrm Friday #29
What's this "no longer" bullshit? No one ever has taken Trump seriously. Ray Bruns Friday #5
For real Orrex Friday #7
That was my first thought. No world leader has ever mistaken him for someone worthy of respect. Pacifist Patriot Friday #13
It was the TV show....people thought is was real ashredux Friday #6
Yep. progressoid Friday #8
MAGAs take pride in that graph pimpbot Friday #25
it is a very serious global situation that the US is headed by unserious clowns. nt wiggs Friday #10
I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was wiggs Friday #14
Its only "controversial" in the sense that the media are feckless lightweights Cosmocat Friday #32
Strongmen gfarber Friday #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #17
Look at his character, look at his history, look at his business success, listen to him speak Scalded Nun Friday #18
That means they have no faith in American voters either FakeNoose Friday #19
It took them THAT LONG TO FIGURE that out? Stupid fucks! nt Exp Friday #20
Russians had him figured out years ago BaronChocula Friday #22
The world doesn't have to, but Americans have to, no matter how he talks or acts. ancianita Friday #24
Trump can con American chumps... returnee Friday #27
Now if only the media kacekwl Friday #28
Teamwork with Trump Norrrm Friday #30

Prairie Gates

(6,117 posts)
1. Gone almost without notice in the US press: the EU and Mercosur are at threshold of a deal
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:45 AM
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Mercosur is comprised of the big economies of Latin America. They've been trying to craft an acceptable free trade deal with the EU for over two decades. The other day it cleared its next to last hurdle, and it looks like the agricultural and environmental hold-outs are going to sign on (the big one being France, which was concerned about protecting its farmers).

That this is an endrun around US tariff policies for all involved is clear enough: they are reducing tariffs to 0 on a massive slate of items. The EU and Mercosur countries are essentially finding ways to avoid having to deal with US markets, or to significantly reduce dependence on them. To be fair, there's also a desire on the part of the EU to reduce tech infrastructure (battery) dependence on China.

Apart from a few desultory Reuters stories, this massive development has been all but ignored in the US press. Now, it has not been completely finalized yet, but it really looks likely to pass now after 25 years of hand-wringing. I mean, thanks, Trumpy! Way to create trading blocs that really want to avoid US markets! Nice job, buddy.

NJCher

(41,282 posts)
11. it only stands to reason
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:57 PM
Friday

People are going to carve out ways to make things work. I didn't know about this, so thanks for outlining it.

trump is such an effing idiot he actually thought he could charge to do business with the U.S. Oh yeah, marketing genius that he is.

Lazy asshole is more like it.

agingdem

(8,623 posts)
16. Trump is a useful idiot ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:02 PM
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world leaders know he's an incompetent revenge-driven preening clown..they know he fancies himself as the ultimate dealmaker (reneging on contracts/threatening contractors/declaring bankruptcy) .. but autocrats also understand Trump's idea of geopolitical dealmaking is "if they say nice things about me I'll give them what you want".. top secret intelligence/permission to occupy another country/weapons/a red carpet welcome...however when it comes to real world problems they know Trump is someone to "work around", with no seat at the adult table... .and so the bad guys make alliances with other bad guys excluding Trump and his team of moronic emissaries.....

GiqueCee

(2,785 posts)
12. Let us not forget...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:59 PM
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... that Trump doesn't pinch a deuce without asking Putin how to fold the toilet paper, and which hand to use.
ALL of this economic destruction, and alienation of former allies, is exactly what Putin told him to do. He's been in Putin's pocket for 30-odd years, but no one in Congress wants to acknowledge it because then they'd have to do something about it. Heaven forfend!

ShazzieB

(21,515 posts)
33. I'm sure that they've known he's not a serious person for years.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:55 PM
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They probably figured it out during his first term, along with all the other world leaders, but (like all the others) they continued to humor him because of the power and influence of the US. Now that they can clearly see he's doing his best to drag this country into the toilet, economically and otherwise, and that other world leaders have completely stopped taking him seriously, Putin & Co. have concluded that they no longer need to hide their contempt for him.

The fact that the world's strongest dictators are now signaling to the world that they know how weak Schlump is would be deliciously ironic, except for one thing: this also means that they have lost whatever respect they may have once had for America. Schlump's behavior toward Ukraine has clearly demonstrated that the U.S. can no longer be counted on to come to the aid of other democracies that under threat.

Trump has become an international laughingstock, and rightly so. Unfortunately, so has this country, for electing him a second time. I honestly don't blame anyone for viewing the situation that way. That he pulled the wool over enough people's eyes to get elected once was bad enough; but that is a thing that can happen sometimes. I'm sure our allies must have heaved a collective sigh of relief when he lost in 2020, but four years later, American voters did the unthinkable and elected him to a second term, making us all look like blithering idiots.

I see this as a sign that the US is in serious danger of losing the powerful position we've held in the world since at least the end of WWII. I really hope Democrats will have enough sense to use this in their campaigns for House and Senate seats next year.

calimary

(87,696 posts)
21. Neither will I.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:37 PM
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I don’t see ANYTHING even remotely honorable OR deserving of respect when I look at him. Or WHENEVER I hear his whiny voice.

Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #4)

Ray Bruns

(5,561 posts)
5. What's this "no longer" bullshit? No one ever has taken Trump seriously.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:32 PM
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At least no one who has been paying attention.

Orrex

(65,952 posts)
7. For real
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:36 PM
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He’s been a shitty clown for at least half a century, buoyed only by the US’ asinine love of the wealthy.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,116 posts)
13. That was my first thought. No world leader has ever mistaken him for someone worthy of respect.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:01 PM
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wiggs

(8,374 posts)
14. I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:03 PM
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trying for a new global order which involved the US, Russia, China, Middle Eastern states including Israel, and IIRC North Korea.

Not hard to imagine that elements of this survive today...authoritarians agreeing to divide up the world using an infinitely greedy, limited, narcissist for the final push. His neediness to be close to authoritarians surely survives. Certainly these are 'not good men'. But that may not be the end of the story. Questions of 'why' remain and are important.

I'm aware these theories and the writer who championed them is controversial even on DU...not intending to re-litigate him. Just reminding that we can't ignore the forest for the trees.

Cosmocat

(15,261 posts)
32. Its only "controversial" in the sense that the media are feckless lightweights
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:45 PM
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This was patently obvious from day one.

FFS, the idiot went to NK and left KJU walk all over him.

Something no other would leader would do if they had a gun pointed to their heads.

gfarber

(91 posts)
15. Strongmen
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:04 PM
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In the East, where the strongmen convene,
With regimes that are brutal and mean,
They look West with a smirk,
At Trump's shallowest quirk—
A clown in a world far too keen.

Three tyrants with power to burn,
Watch Trump with a scoff and a turn.
"He's loud, but he’s dim—
No spine, just a whim—
Not the threat we had hoped he'd return."

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Scalded Nun

(1,487 posts)
18. Look at his character, look at his history, look at his business success, listen to him speak
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:08 PM
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Why would ANY halfway intelligent person (good or evil) have any respect for this assclown?

FakeNoose

(38,509 posts)
19. That means they have no faith in American voters either
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:19 PM
Friday

We're the ones who put Chump back in the White House.

Well not us on DU, I'm referring to "we Americans" in the larger sense...

ancianita

(41,630 posts)
24. The world doesn't have to, but Americans have to, no matter how he talks or acts.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:52 PM
Friday

When Americans finally make the effort to take America back from him, they will then have to work to return America to its former place in the world. That might not happen for a good reason -- because while we were dealing with destruction and repair, the world has moved on. Even with newly elected leaders it will likely take the world a long time to allow us a seat at the table, because our voting seems so inconsistent with world human, humane, and humanitarian values.

Thanks for your post.

returnee

(638 posts)
27. Trump can con American chumps...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 03:30 PM
Friday

…because they are ignoramuses. But he can’t con world leaders.

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