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Faux pas
(15,875 posts)it's against the rethug's "christian" beliefs.
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,605 posts)A startup has built a couple of prototypes that get trotted out every couple of years, but they've never been installed and used.
sheshe2
(93,498 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,605 posts)press releases. These pods have not been permanently installed nor are they used by people experiencing homelessness. The BBC article can't even spell the name of the product correctly.
sheshe2
(93,498 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,605 posts)And UlmerNest isn't even a startup; it's a project, an idea. The website itself says the product is still in its testing stages, and their FAQs make it clear that this isn't anywhere near a scalable concept: https://ulmernest.de/
Celerity
(51,751 posts)Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
How much does an Ulmer Nest cost? How can I buy one?
As there are only two Nests existing right now, which are mostly hand-crafted prototypes for evaluating our concept, we are neither able to give you a proper quote at this point, nor can we sell readymade Nests. We are still optimizing the construction also in terms of cost, with the goal of pushing the total material cost below a reasonable number, as well as being able to serially produce the shelters at some point in the future.
However, if you are a representing a municipal office, NGO or company looking willing to deploy a solution like the Ulmer Nest, you can get in touch so we can keep you updated with the progress. Please also consider that while initial costs for buying Nest might be relevant, there also continuous costs stemming from the concept which you should consider as well for cleaning, infrastructure, maintenance and especially social work. Only when considering this as a whole, implementing a concept like the Ulm Nest in your city does make sense.
Are there build plans or instructions to help me build a Nest myself?
Right now, we don't have any plans or instructions, and also won't be able to provide those. This is mainly due to the fact that while evaluating our existing prototypes, we discover opportunities for improvement almost every day, so plans would be changing rapidly. However, for now we explicitly want to encourage you to still go further with your ideas and momentum that you might have. If we can help by answering any questions along that way, or providing you with best practices from what we've learned so far, we will be happy to do so!
Where do the costs for the Nest that can be found in the media stem from?
Right now, we are still in a prototyping and evaluation phase. Therefore, the actual price that was given in various media outlets is way higher than it would be for a finished product, as it includes a lot of development and testing work, and countless hours of assembling the Nests by hand. In a possible serial product, the price will dramatically reduce from the numbers given in the media. The numbers given in the media include not only materials, but also development, production, sensors, hours of coding, setup and teardown including transport, maintenance, cleaning and social work, the latter being an integral part of the concept. So basically all the costs for one winter season and the prototypes themselves.
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Images available with indication of the copyright holder (as mentioned in the corresponding .rtf-files of each folder):
https://ulmernest.de/downloads/ulmernest_media_210303_V1.zip
sheshe2
(93,498 posts)DFW
(58,826 posts)Apparently these things are now in use, but just sporadically, more as a test than anything else. They are by no means available everywhere, or even here and there. There havent been anywhere enough of them built, nor are there plans for that to happen. In ten years MIGHT they have a chance to be available to the homeless population in general, but for now, that remains a pipe dream. It remains an experiment.
tinrobot
(11,730 posts)There's no room for a bed in that pod.
riversedge
(77,554 posts)Union Label
(550 posts)you couldn't even lay down in something that small.
FadedMullet
(466 posts).......plausible and you can bank on the fact that all European counties do better job helping the homeless than we do.
70sEraVet
(4,841 posts)I'm SURE those countries aren't sending out troops to their capitol cities, to throw the few meager belongings of the homeless into dump trucks!
Skittles
(167,068 posts)and it's AI
sl8
(16,764 posts)They called them Ulmer Nests. I'm not seeing any recent news about them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/55778733
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sheshe2
(93,498 posts)sl8
(16,764 posts)If you're talking about the Premier Daily article linked in your other post, it's most recent sources about the trial are from January 2021.
misanthrope
(9,104 posts)Soylent Green factories.
WarGamer
(17,784 posts)
Mosby
(18,965 posts)No ramps, door is not wide enough.
WarGamer
(17,784 posts)Response to WarGamer (Reply #22)
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WarGamer
(17,784 posts)At least I'd hope so...
maxsolomon
(37,253 posts)Often the bathing/restroom and cooking facilities are elsewhere in the complex.
These are essentially heated sleeping rooms.
TommieMommy
(2,329 posts)WarGamer
(17,784 posts)No it's not.
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milestogo
(21,689 posts)They built small units for homeless people in my city. But some of them have substance abuse issues or mental illness and they have a hard time adapting. Homeless people need more than 4 walls.
KentuckyWoman
(7,267 posts)Bend Oregon
Another one in Oregon
Seattle
Phoenix
Columbus Ohio
Metro Atlanta
fujiyamasan
(609 posts)Certainly a better solution than simply locking them up. And if they dont have a shelter, how are they supposed to pay a fine?
Thanks for posting something real as opposed to some dumb AI meme like image with no real explanation or context.
JoseBalow
(8,320 posts)(4:31)

fujiyamasan
(609 posts)I had seen shipping containers being converted to homes. These trailers look similar, but actually are more practical given the size and are likely easier to transport.
I had a friend that mentioned a commercial district featuring shipping containers in Savannah, Georgia I think. I think Vegas has something sinilar.
Rhiannon12866
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rictofen
(252 posts)I don't see any problems there. And how many doors does a pod need? Looks like 3 doors there, or rather 2 doors and an empty hatch. Maybe it has a sci-fi force field.
Melon
(745 posts)I had to walk through an area of homeless a number of times. Drugs, tents and not safe would be my description. No different than trying to walk through some areas of cities here. The hard drug use was probably more in the open.
MineralMan
(149,706 posts)think are on the streets of Germany? The answer is: Not very fucking many.
There have been similar proposals here in the USA, too, but nothing ever comes from them. So, if someone can show me a German city that has even dozens of those or similar shelters, I will apologize,